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But of course The X Factor is the one getting the stick. Strictly's inflation is what generates the long clash. The X Factor was always going to start at 7:30pm.
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I made a 'sort of joking' schedule about how you'd avoid Strictly, Doctor Who and The X Factor. But with 5 hours, 20 minutes of content across both channels, that's near on impossible.
You could, just about, do this...BBC One 17:50 - Strictly Come Dancing 19:55 - Doctor Who 20:40 - Pointless Celebrities 21:30 - Lottery Draws 21:40 - Casualty 22:30 - BBC News 22:50 - Mrs Brown's Boys ITV 18:40 - You've Been Framed! 19:40 - The Chase 20:40 - The X Factor 23:10 - ITV News When we see this Mummy, if it's not scary I'm going to be so disappointed. ![]()
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Nice editing there. So XF is starting earlier and has increased the number of acts but the long clash is SCDs fault for sticking with the same start and run time.
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The beeb are insisting Dr Who- Mummy on the Orient Express needs a late slot though.
When we see this Mummy, if it's not scary I'm going to be so disappointed. ![]() ![]() |
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Same reason as Strictly, Bake Off and Britain's Got Talent have increased the number of contestants since series 1? It's an effective way of filling air time.
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Dont start talking sense on here - it wont be appreciated.
![]() The truth is both shows are bloated because they want the big audience for as long as they can - this year might be the first when that may not be such a good idea. |
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I don't know. Sheridan Smith seems like a good bet for Lead Actress. ITV have actually won that particular award the last three years - Olivia Coleman for Broadchurch, Sheridan Smith for Mrs Biggs and Emily Watson for Appropriate Adult.
Also this BAFTA criticism is somewhat unfair in general. Broadchurch, Last Tango in Halifax, The Fades, Sherlock, Misfits, Wallander, The Street (twice), Doctor Who and Shameless have been the winners the last ten years for Drama Series.
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The One Show finished at 19:24
EastEnders started at 19:25 They're really plugging this Furchester Hotel. |
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I made a mistake. My point still remains. There's absolutely no way The X Factor would start later than 7:30pm even with a 2 hour running time. Why shift Keyhole to 10pm unnecessarily and have a 10pm finish for X Factor unnecessarily? Strictly took the challenge to The X Factor by generating the first clash. It's nice to see that ITV aren't running scared and changing their plans to escape it.
Let them clash! I like a good battle. But the reason why we have clashes is because the shows are so long! |
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The BAFTA will be between Sheridan Smith for Cilla and Sarah Lancashire for Happy Valley. Lancashire has the edge for me but it's going to be close. And what if the vote is split between them and Keeley Hawes gets it for Line Of Duty? It's going to be fun!
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Strictly is a bit bloated. X Factor's show is likely to have 8 advert breaks, so strip those out and it has effectively got a 115 minute slot for 16 acts. Meanwhile Strictly is actually 10 minutes longer at 125 mins even though it only has 14 acts. Suspect there may be some padding involved there which could be more difficult than usual with no Brucie to fluff his lines.
Eg. On XF they go VT > Performance > Comments, and on Strictly its VT > Performance > Comments > Scores. Regardless, both shows are too lengthy and both will suffer in the ratings because of it. I can perfectly well understand why neither wish to back down from the slots they're in, though. |
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All-day shares for Sunday
BBC Two: 4.7% Channel 4: 4.5% inc +1 Sky Ryder Cup: 4.4% Channel 5: 4.0% inc +1 http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...ead-tv-ratings MediaGuardian also point out that Gogglebox on Friday almost matched its last series premiere in March (2.67m/11.6% v 2.73m/12.9% including +1), despite huge competition. |
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They did mention the early start straight after the duff duffs, pretty much, so that will help, but will still catch some out. Can't see the football affecting it though, it didn't stop the fire episode rising.
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this is a very interesting commission- when did C4 last air a live show like this in daytime? Light Lunch?? You'd have to go back a very long way I think.
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On a different note, what is this BBC Music 'thing' being advertised for 07.10.14 @ 8pm?
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If rumours are to be believed then X Factor will have 16 acts to get through so even though it's a very long show it'll be pretty packed with not much room to shorten it. Can't see it moving to be honest. ITV should really plug the +1 option though.
Strictly is a bit bloated. X Factor's show is likely to have 8 advert breaks, so strip those out and it has effectively got a 115 minute slot for 16 acts. Meanwhile Strictly is actually 10 minutes longer at 125 mins even though it only has 14 acts. Suspect there may be some padding involved there which could be more difficult than usual with no Brucie to fluff his lines. I appreciate what people aresaying about the +1 option but I would doubt ITV would explicity promote it if only because that would involve admitting that Strictly exists. Quote:
Both are unnecessary inflated and probably wouldn't be as long if the other didn't exist/wasn't airing on that night.
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Talent show overkill on Saturday night may cause people to switch off.
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Making the first few weeks of the live shows an endurance event for the audience seems like a terrible idea for where the show is right now.
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The long show will mean the audience can at least build during the night. Its long, but it has been this length before.
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The long show will mean the audience can at least build during the night. Its long, but it has been this length before.
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Tuesday is a one off music special 'Spandau Ballet: True Gold'. Wednesday is still Scott & Bailey.
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Talent show overkill on Saturday night may cause people to switch off.
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So what will come after S&B do we know?
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Sarah Lancashire has the edge for me as well, but I can see Keeley Hawes taking it, Lancashire won last year which might be a disadvantage, and Smith won two years ago (beating the brilliant Rebecca Hall) with a performance that, imo, was better than the one she gave in Cilla.
Great overnight for "Cilla" last night too! Write something else Mr Pope!! |
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I think it might be the documentary series Broadmoor before IAC.
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Talent show overkill on Saturday night may cause people to switch off.
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Should Smith and Lancashire be even competing against one another? I think Smith was amazing in many facets of her layered performance. She drew me to the story in the first place with her wonderful voice and attention to detail on character. Lancashire plays an utterly different role and puts in a completely different performance. Its too hard to divide them. I don't know if BAFTA have ever divided the award. Its just disappointing whoever wins. But Sheridan deserves alot of praise for making this role look effortless.
Great overnight for "Cilla" last night too! Write something else Mr Pope!! |
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With The Emmys they separate mini series actors from drama series actors. BAFTA should do that. Lancashire's character went through an emotional wringer. It was another extraordinary performance. It will be the most hotly contested Best Actress category in years. There isn't just one frontrunner.
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With The Emmys they separate mini series actors from drama series actors. BAFTA should do that. Lancashire's character went through an emotional wringer. It was another extraordinary performance. It will be the most hotly contested Best Actress category in years. There isn't just one frontrunner.
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