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The Ratings Thread (Part 61)
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johnnymc
11-08-2014
They should get that "Great British Bake Off" repeat closer to Saturday evening.
wizzywick
11-08-2014
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“Oh they will, as sure as night follows day.

And we have have the annual "Louis Walsh Sniping Against Strictly Contest" for 2014, started here:

Louis Walsh threatens to KILL Strictly Come Dancing so X Factor can win ratings battle”

If people can't be enticed to watch a programme based on its own merits and not due to a scripted, pretentious circus of claptrap, then in my opinion that programme isn't worth watching.
Chris1964
11-08-2014
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Surely the great British public are not going to fall for all this guff - are they?”

Its all part of the post Barlow attempt to recreate the golden era. Im sure they will do just about anything they can do to return to the daft panto almost playground antics that you either loved or hated. At its best those that hated it tuned in too -that's what propelled it. Iv got a lot of time for Gary Barlow and his era was worthy and studious but ultimately dull and ITV dropped the baton very badly in letting the show slide even accepting Cowell and Cole left it.

Strictly deservedly toppled XF in the last few years-we wait to see if the supposedly rejuvenated XF can fight back.
NeilVW
11-08-2014
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Does that mean BARB will add all further playbacks to the Saturday morning repeat instead?”

Same channel as original broadcast, so if there has been no inaudible audio code added to distinguish the showings, then yes, it's an EastEnders situation.

If Yog could tell us how much Sunday's timeshift added to the original Bake Off and the answer is zero, I think that would mean it's happening again (I will ask him); or if D.M.N. reveals a suspiciously high 7-day timeshift for the repeat when those figures come out.
Chris1964
11-08-2014
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Yes, but that will probably be the best weekend of Factor ratings all series. Some of the lost viewers will be back to see Cowell, but after that I'd expect the ratings to be no better than last year's. Wouldn't even be surprised to see a sub-7m (Saturday) studio show later in the series.”

Yes the live performance shows will be under most pressure because the Sunday show has the payoff and the show has to be incredibly strong to make huge numbers sit through two hours plus of warbling without any resolution. The result bit of XF means far more than Strictly.
Ratings for XF this year will be fascinating.
ronant
11-08-2014
Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“They should get that "Great British Bake Off" repeat closer to Saturday evening.”

It'll be on Sunday at 4.30 from next week, a good slot for it I think.
hyperstarsponge
11-08-2014
Do you think we would see Autumn trailer on TV this year? I would like BBC4 to do one.
SamuelW
11-08-2014
Disasterous ratings for Itv. This is what happens when you have several weeks of low ratings and poor weekly reaches. When they end up with a schedule full of new shows, some of which seem quite decent-ish looking, it rates poorly because no one has seen the promos and people are totally out of the habit of tuning into the channel.

The Zoo rating is majorly down from last year when it was in the post Coro Wed 8pm slot. This proves two things: 1. the Coro oap-boosting lead-in does help shows out without a shadow of a doubt. and 2. the reduced weekly reach this year compared to the same period last year is damaging Itv's ratings.

A couple years ago The Zoo aired during the Olympics in the same Sunday slot and rated better. Says it all, really. Also a terrible terrible rating for the Great War factual-drama, just awful. It was niche, unpopular programming which I knew would rate terribly, but I didnt expect it to fall as low as 1.6million in a flagship Sunday 9pm slot. The Village took advantage and demolished it in the ratings with ultimate ease. Im really happy because the Village could've returned low due to its first series trajectory but such poor weak Itv opposition has helped it out this time.
wizzywick
11-08-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Disasterous ratings for Itv. This is what happens when you have several weeks of low ratings and poor weekly reaches. When they end up with a schedule full of new shows, some of which seem quite decent-ish looking, it rates poorly because no one has seen the promos and people are totally out of the habit of tuning into the channel.

The Zoo rating is majorly down from last year when it was in the post Coro Wed 8pm slot. This proves two things: 1. the Coro oap-boosting lead-in does help shows out without a shadow of a doubt. and 2. the reduced weekly reach this year compared to the same period last year is damaging Itv's ratings.

A couple years ago The Zoo aired during the Olympics in the same Sunday slot and rated better. Says it all, really. Also a terrible terrible rating for the Great War factual-drama, just awful. It was niche, unpopular programming which I knew would rate terribly, but I didnt expect it to fall as low as 1.6million in a flagship Sunday 9pm slot. The Village took advantage and demolished it in the ratings with ultimate ease. Im really happy because the Village could've returned low due to its first series trajectory but such poor weak Itv opposition has helped it out this time.”

Samuel I have to correct you here. The World War One programme was in no way niche. It was far more accessible and relevant to a wider audience than Jeremy Paxman's BBC1 series was earlier in the year. It wasn't unpopular either. OK, it might not have wowed the masses, but with those who did watch it was indeed very well received. Your obssession with the word "niche" makes me wonder if you actually know what it means.
cylon6
11-08-2014
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“Oh they will, as sure as night follows day.

And we have have the annual "Louis Walsh Sniping Against Strictly Contest" for 2014, started here:

Louis Walsh threatens to KILL Strictly Come Dancing so X Factor can win ratings battle”

Louis Walsh seems very bullish now Simon is back on X Factor. Bless him.
H of De Vil
11-08-2014
All that XF stuff is tabloid crap. The X Factor doesn't need all that rubbish. I suspect most of it is the newspapers just creating more rubbish 'news stories' too fill space.
AUNAC
11-08-2014
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“If people can't be enticed to watch a programme based on its own merits and not due to a scripted, pretentious circus of claptrap, then in my opinion that programme isn't worth watching.”

LIKE....can't do a thumbs up symbol
lewiep93
11-08-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Disasterous ratings for Itv. This is what happens when you have several weeks of low ratings and poor weekly reaches. When they end up with a schedule full of new shows, some of which seem quite decent-ish looking, it rates poorly because no one has seen the promos and people are totally out of the habit of tuning into the channel.

The Zoo rating is majorly down from last year when it was in the post Coro Wed 8pm slot. This proves two things: 1. the Coro oap-boosting lead-in does help shows out without a shadow of a doubt. and 2. the reduced weekly reach this year compared to the same period last year is damaging Itv's ratings.

A couple years ago The Zoo aired during the Olympics in the same Sunday slot and rated better. Says it all, really. Also a terrible terrible rating for the Great War factual-drama, just awful. It was niche, unpopular programming which I knew would rate terribly, but I didnt expect it to fall as low as 1.6million in a flagship Sunday 9pm slot. The Village took advantage and demolished it in the ratings with ultimate ease. Im really happy because the Village could've returned low due to its first series trajectory but such poor weak Itv opposition has helped it out this time.”

Would you be happy if ITV just ceased broadcasting? Your obsession with the failure of a television channel is plain weird. Sorry but it is.
Fudd
11-08-2014
I think more people get wound up about X Factor headlines than believe them. We know what happens; it's the same every year. They're easier to ignore.
ftv
11-08-2014
I am proud to say I have never watched either TXF or BGT and haven't a clue who Louis Walsh is.
H of De Vil
11-08-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Disasterous ratings for Itv. This is what happens when you have several weeks of low ratings and poor weekly reaches. When they end up with a schedule full of new shows, some of which seem quite decent-ish looking, it rates poorly because no one has seen the promos and people are totally out of the habit of tuning into the channel.

The Zoo rating is majorly down from last year when it was in the post Coro Wed 8pm slot. This proves two things: 1. the Coro oap-boosting lead-in does help shows out without a shadow of a doubt. and 2. the reduced weekly reach this year compared to the same period last year is damaging Itv's ratings.

A couple years ago The Zoo aired during the Olympics in the same Sunday slot and rated better. Says it all, really. Also a terrible terrible rating for the Great War factual-drama, just awful. It was niche, unpopular programming which I knew would rate terribly, but I didnt expect it to fall as low as 1.6million in a flagship Sunday 9pm slot. The Village took advantage and demolished it in the ratings with ultimate ease. Im really happy because the Village could've returned low due to its first series trajectory but such poor weak Itv opposition has helped it out this time.”

Can't really disagree with much of this. A couple of quality programmes rated poorly because ITV gave up for Summer which therefore has a knock on effect onto new programming. Their own doing and which therefore gifts BBC1 with a stronger audience going into Autumn. This is why BBC1 gets the default audience. The viewers trust the BBC more.
johnnymc
11-08-2014
Is this the latest "Doctor Who" has ever aired. I can't remember 7.50 being a slot for it before. It's bound to bounce the ratings up. I've always been convinced it aired too early although many fans said it was ultimately irrelevant where it aired.

Good news about "The Great British Bake Off" repeat that airing on a Sunday is bound to get 2 million eventually. Maybe more.

What does Capaldi need to beat in order to become the highest debut from the Doctor since 2005?
yorkie100
11-08-2014
Originally Posted by ftv:
“I am proud to say I have never watched either TXF or BGT and haven't a clue who Louis Walsh is.”

Well you have gone up in my estimation.
yorkie100
11-08-2014
Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“Is this the latest "Doctor Who" has ever aired. I can't remember 7.50 being a slot for it before. It's bound to bounce the ratings up. I've always been convinced it aired too early although many fans said it was ultimately irrelevant where it aired.

Good news about "The Great British Bake Off" repeat that airing on a Sunday is bound to get 2 million eventually. Maybe more.”

It certainly is late. What time did the 50th start?
johnnymc
11-08-2014
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“It certainly is late. What time did the 50th start?”

Yep around the same time but it was never a regular time slot for the show. It used to be budged out of the way by Andrew Lloyd Webber shows and hasn't been in the heart of the schedule since Ecclescake and Piper. It has never had such good treatment since it relaunched in 2005. There much to said for fixed time for it.
NeilVW
11-08-2014
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“It certainly is late. What time did the 50th start?”

Same time, 19:50, but apart from that the latest airing so far of a new episode on BBC One since 2006 was 14 April 2007, at 19:40 ("Gridlock").

EDIT: I checked and all the 2005 episodes started at 19:00 (with one at 18:30 due to Eurovision) so 19:50 is the latest the revival episodes have ever started.
johnnymc
11-08-2014
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“Same time, 19:50, but apart from that the latest airing so far of a new episode on BBC One since 2006 was 14 April 2007, at 19:40 ("Gridlock").”

Did "Gridlock" rate the highest in the series?
cylon6
11-08-2014
Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“Did "Gridlock" rate the highest in the series?”

Not in that series. The first episode Smith & Jones was the highest rated, the finale with The Master also rated higher than Gridlock m
johnnymc
11-08-2014
The later time will give the show another million and a half extra viewers.

There's a fantastic new trailer out for ep 1 too. Very pleased how this new series is looking and being placed back at the heart of BBC one, think the "X Factor" will be affected by the stronger competition. Its launch will not be as mighty.
NeilVW
11-08-2014
Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“Did "Gridlock" rate the highest in the series?”

No, third-highest officially, ignoring the Christmas special. It was lower-rated than two episodes that went out at 19:00 (the series premiere) and 19:05 (the series finale).
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