I think the ratings are now in.
The Ratings Thread (Part 61)
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The latest airdates and times from C5, subject to slight alteration but as good as confirmed:
Rob Brydon Live (New): Saturday, August 23 at 10PM after Celebrity Big Brother
Under the Dome (New Season): Monday, August 25 at 10PM after Celebrity Big Brother
Marston's Brewery: One Ale of a Job! (New Series): Friday, August 29 at 8PM
Dallas unscheduled. Likely starts the following week once Suspects has completed its second series.
Rob Brydon Live (New): Saturday, August 23 at 10PM after Celebrity Big Brother
Under the Dome (New Season): Monday, August 25 at 10PM after Celebrity Big Brother
Marston's Brewery: One Ale of a Job! (New Series): Friday, August 29 at 8PM
Dallas unscheduled. Likely starts the following week once Suspects has completed its second series.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Watched Judge Rinder today and I thought it wasn't too bad, so hopefully this one should stay over 700k at least.
Can I make a request, if later today or tomorrow when we have ratings that The Chase rating at 12:30pm is posted if possible. Thanks.”
“Watched Judge Rinder today and I thought it wasn't too bad, so hopefully this one should stay over 700k at least.
Can I make a request, if later today or tomorrow when we have ratings that The Chase rating at 12:30pm is posted if possible. Thanks.”
ITV really are struggling finding new hits in daytime especially. Though, then again, with their latest efforts I beg to see how they thought they'd be finding new hits anytime soon. Even established 'hits' such as 60 Minute Makeover and Loose Women are running out of steam, so the 12:30pm - 4:00pm block is becoming a very real problem. Perhaps, as with prime time, they should look to the past to find 'new' raters. What did ITV used to show that was popular in daytime, say, before the 2000s?
Originally Posted by Score:
“I think the ratings are now in.”
“I think the ratings are now in.”
The usual ratings journos will have gone home by now. Great! Tomorrow it is then?
As we go a wee trip down bad drama on BBC one lane.."West beach" originally pitched as a soap to replace "Wogan" but got a commission anyway. And I seem to remember was is "Tiger Bay" or something. Not a good time in their drama chest while ITV blossomed.
Digiguide has updated, Doctor Who still down for 19:50. The hour long Emmerdale has gone from the 26th, and it doesn't look like it's been moved elsewhere in the week. Something called Last Chance Academy gets the GBBO lead in, which is a shame as they really should be using that slot better, with a drama if they don't want to start The Apprentice too early.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“The latest airdates and times from C5, as good as confirmed:
Rob Brydon Live (New): Saturday, August 23 at 10PM after Celebrity Big Brother
Under the Dome (New Season): Monday, August 25 at 10PM after Celebrity Big Brother
Marston's Brewery: One Ale of a Job! (New Series): Friday, August 29 at 8PM
Dallas unscheduled. Likely starts the following week once Suspects has completed its second series.”
“The latest airdates and times from C5, as good as confirmed:
Rob Brydon Live (New): Saturday, August 23 at 10PM after Celebrity Big Brother
Under the Dome (New Season): Monday, August 25 at 10PM after Celebrity Big Brother
Marston's Brewery: One Ale of a Job! (New Series): Friday, August 29 at 8PM
Dallas unscheduled. Likely starts the following week once Suspects has completed its second series.”
I cannot wait for Under the Dome. Finally! Thank you for this news. I hope it doesn't go a lot lower than its first season here like it has done in the US and Australia. TEN had to move it in Australia I saw.
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“BBC drama seemed to tail off after 1991. A Year in Provence was one of many BBC flops at that time, anyone recall Strathblair, tedious drama about a Scottish village, Rides, hopeless drama about a retired woman soldier driving a taxi, Para Handy, drunks on a ship on the Clyde, Trainer, expensive flop about horse racing and the mega expensive flop, Rhodes, which stiffed. Indeed apart from Eastenders and Casualty, the only respectable drama hits the Beeb had in the mid nineties were Pride and Prejudice and To Play The King.”
“BBC drama seemed to tail off after 1991. A Year in Provence was one of many BBC flops at that time, anyone recall Strathblair, tedious drama about a Scottish village, Rides, hopeless drama about a retired woman soldier driving a taxi, Para Handy, drunks on a ship on the Clyde, Trainer, expensive flop about horse racing and the mega expensive flop, Rhodes, which stiffed. Indeed apart from Eastenders and Casualty, the only respectable drama hits the Beeb had in the mid nineties were Pride and Prejudice and To Play The King.”
I watched Trainer because it was filmed in and around West Berkshire - which is where I live!! It still didn't stop it being pants though, especially the Cliff Richard theme tune.
Originally Posted by Nine-Nine:
“ITV really are struggling finding new hits in daytime especially. Though, then again, with their latest efforts I beg to see how they thought they'd be finding new hits anytime soon. Even established 'hits' such as 60 Minute Makeover and Loose Women are running out of steam, so the 12:30pm - 4:00pm block is becoming a very real problem. Perhaps, as with prime time, they should look to the past to find 'new' raters. What did ITV used to show that was popular in daytime, say, before the 2000s?”
“ITV really are struggling finding new hits in daytime especially. Though, then again, with their latest efforts I beg to see how they thought they'd be finding new hits anytime soon. Even established 'hits' such as 60 Minute Makeover and Loose Women are running out of steam, so the 12:30pm - 4:00pm block is becoming a very real problem. Perhaps, as with prime time, they should look to the past to find 'new' raters. What did ITV used to show that was popular in daytime, say, before the 2000s?”
Until the late nineties Australian soaps dominated the 1-4 slot. However, shows like A Country Practice came to a natural end in Australia and replacements weren't created as the popularity of the soaps were waning over there. Also you would find 20 years ago, when the soapies weren't on, repeats of Murder She Wrote or High Road.
Mornings tended to be more varied. Obviously you had the imperial era This Morning, but also game shows like Supermarket Sweep and talk shows.
Originally Posted by guestofseth:
“Digiguide has updated, Doctor Who still down for 19:50. The hour long Emmerdale has gone from the 26th, and it doesn't look like it's been moved elsewhere in the week. Something called Last Chance Academy gets the GBBO lead in, which is a shame as they really should be using that slot better, with a drama if they don't want to start The Apprentice too early.”
“Digiguide has updated, Doctor Who still down for 19:50. The hour long Emmerdale has gone from the 26th, and it doesn't look like it's been moved elsewhere in the week. Something called Last Chance Academy gets the GBBO lead in, which is a shame as they really should be using that slot better, with a drama if they don't want to start The Apprentice too early.”
That Emmerdale episode will turn up somewhere that week. Is Last Chance Academy a series? Not many will watch that.
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“BBC drama seemed to tail off after 1991. A Year in Provence was one of many BBC flops at that time, anyone recall Strathblair, tedious drama about a Scottish village, Rides, hopeless drama about a retired woman soldier driving a taxi, Para Handy, drunks on a ship on the Clyde, Trainer, expensive flop about horse racing and the mega expensive flop, Rhodes, which stiffed. Indeed apart from Eastenders and Casualty, the only respectable drama hits the Beeb had in the mid nineties were Pride and Prejudice and To Play The King.”
“BBC drama seemed to tail off after 1991. A Year in Provence was one of many BBC flops at that time, anyone recall Strathblair, tedious drama about a Scottish village, Rides, hopeless drama about a retired woman soldier driving a taxi, Para Handy, drunks on a ship on the Clyde, Trainer, expensive flop about horse racing and the mega expensive flop, Rhodes, which stiffed. Indeed apart from Eastenders and Casualty, the only respectable drama hits the Beeb had in the mid nineties were Pride and Prejudice and To Play The King.”
In fairness to the Beeb, several of those "should" have worked. Trainer, for example, was produced by Gerard Glaister, the guy who had just produced six seasons of the big hit Howards' Way and before that had produced the huge Sunday night smash of the early 70s The Brothers. It was very sad, and very unexpected, that his last series was such a flop.
Rhodes, like Year in Provence, was built around a bankable star - in this case Martin Shaw. But it also, as you say, cratered.
If there was a common factor in all these failures it was slow, uneventful and meandering scripting. The glacial pace of BBC dramas then has not entirely gone away (hello, Honourable Woman) but by the 2000s they had begun to learn from US drama the art of speeding things up and actually having things happen - a process best demonstrated from 2005 with Russell T Davies and DW giving a real sense of pace to BBC weekend dramas.
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Until the late nineties Australian soaps dominated the 1-4 slot. However, shows like A Country Practice came to a natural end in Australia and replacements weren't created as the popularity of the soaps were waning over there. Also you would find 20 years ago, when the soapies weren't on, repeats of Murder She Wrote or High Road.
Mornings tended to be more varied. Obviously you had the imperial era This Morning, but also game shows like Supermarket Sweep and talk shows.”
“Until the late nineties Australian soaps dominated the 1-4 slot. However, shows like A Country Practice came to a natural end in Australia and replacements weren't created as the popularity of the soaps were waning over there. Also you would find 20 years ago, when the soapies weren't on, repeats of Murder She Wrote or High Road.
Mornings tended to be more varied. Obviously you had the imperial era This Morning, but also game shows like Supermarket Sweep and talk shows.”
Thank you for the swift reply. Ah, so it's not like they can just rebuild the success of yesteryears. I think ITV should look to reinvest in more old game show formats for daytime then. I'd even go as far as them using the shortened version of Who Wants to Be A Millionaire? which lasts thirty minutes and is apparently a far snappier format.
Originally Posted by Nine-Nine:
“I cannot wait for Under the Dome. Finally! Thank you for this news. I hope it doesn't go a lot lower than its first season here like it has done in the US and Australia. TEN had to move it in Australia I saw.”
“I cannot wait for Under the Dome. Finally! Thank you for this news. I hope it doesn't go a lot lower than its first season here like it has done in the US and Australia. TEN had to move it in Australia I saw.”
Gosh, that passed me by. Must have got grim for the show down under for Ten to move it given their acceptable ratings threshold is as low as it's ever been. That said, a lot of US imports have been rating very poorly on Ten recently.
It's a bit worrying but it did end disappointingly so I'm not entirely surprised it hasn't been too warmly received second time around. It really should have been a one season show. Being so successful for a summer show first time around though meant that was never going to happen, unfortunately.
I'll give it another chance, myself. And I wouldn't be entirely shocked if it holds up slightly better over here. As long as it doesn't drop much below 800,000 it should be fine. There's an argument to be made that they should be targetting more than that out of CBB, but I suspect the demos are probably alright compared to the channel's other imports and alongside the network's other new season drama at 10PM it'll outrate Suspects which they are rolling out the red carpet for so to speak, and sadly it'll probably outrate Wentworth Prison which I think is a better programme - so you can't see Under the Dome being in any danger over here even with an audience drop (as long as it isn't too dramatic) given the likely context.
Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“As we go a wee trip down bad drama on BBC one lane.."West beach" originally pitched as a soap to replace "Wogan" but got a commission anyway. And I seem to remember was is "Tiger Bay" or something. Not a good time in their drama chest while ITV blossomed.”
“As we go a wee trip down bad drama on BBC one lane.."West beach" originally pitched as a soap to replace "Wogan" but got a commission anyway. And I seem to remember was is "Tiger Bay" or something. Not a good time in their drama chest while ITV blossomed.”
Who remembers Harbour Lights? The very fact they used "Heymouth" instead of "Weymouth" really annoyed me! You could clearly see it was Weymouth!
If you want to way back, ITV daytime circa 1980 would consist of schools programmes from 9.30 to 12.00, Rainbow, The Sullivans, news, Crown Court, then either horse racing if they had the rights to a meeting or an old film or a TV movie. Actually quite a varied schedule.
BBC One would respond with schools at the same time, Pebble Mill, news, Watch With Mother and an hour of schools programmes,and an adult education show at 3.00. However, as the BBC had most of the sports rights in the summer, the schedule often consisted of test matches and racing.
BBC One would respond with schools at the same time, Pebble Mill, news, Watch With Mother and an hour of schools programmes,and an adult education show at 3.00. However, as the BBC had most of the sports rights in the summer, the schedule often consisted of test matches and racing.
Memory Lane - BBC One drama it's almost like it is the name of a new show for Sunday evenings.
I can remember watching A Year in Provence, and actually enjoying it. i stuck with it to the end too.
What about Invasion Earth, which I seem to remember was on a Friday night on BBC One in the late 90s. Not forgetting Crime Traveller on a Saturday along with Bugs.
I can remember watching A Year in Provence, and actually enjoying it. i stuck with it to the end too.
What about Invasion Earth, which I seem to remember was on a Friday night on BBC One in the late 90s. Not forgetting Crime Traveller on a Saturday along with Bugs.
Originally Posted by Markynotts:
“Memory Lane - BBC One drama it's almost like it is the name of a new show for Sunday evenings.
I can remember watching A Year in Provence, and actually enjoying it. i stuck with it to the end too.
What about Invasion Earth, which I seem to remember was on a Friday night on BBC One in the late 90s. Not forgetting Crime Traveller on a Saturday along with Bugs.”
“Memory Lane - BBC One drama it's almost like it is the name of a new show for Sunday evenings.
I can remember watching A Year in Provence, and actually enjoying it. i stuck with it to the end too.
What about Invasion Earth, which I seem to remember was on a Friday night on BBC One in the late 90s. Not forgetting Crime Traveller on a Saturday along with Bugs.”
Invasion Earth was in April 1998 I believe. I enjoyed it. Wasn't it on around the same time as Berkeley Square which was hoped to become a continuing drama set in Edwardian times? Or did I dream that?
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Invasion Earth was in April 1998 I believe. I enjoyed it. Wasn't it on around the same time as Berkeley Square which was hoped to become a continuing drama set in Edwardian times? Or did I dream that?”
“Invasion Earth was in April 1998 I believe. I enjoyed it. Wasn't it on around the same time as Berkeley Square which was hoped to become a continuing drama set in Edwardian times? Or did I dream that?”
I don't remember Berkeley Square
Just looking on Amazon and Invasion Earth is on DVD for £36 - it appears to be a Region 1 import only.
I think ITV Daytime have a hit with Judge Rinder
Pointless 3.13m (25.0%)
University Challenge 2.39m (11.5%)
Tipping Point 1.81m (21.2%)
The 21st Question 1.71m (14.3%)
Big Brother 1.23m (5.7%)
Eggheads 1.02m (6.5%)
Couples Come Dine With Me 0.97m (8.1%)
Perfection 0.92m (13.6%)
Judge Rinder 0.87m (12.7%)
Big Brother’s Bit on the Side 0.54m (6.1%)
Deal or No Deal 0.51m (6.7%)
Countdown 0.40m (5.8%)
Win It Cook It 0.28m (3.1%)
All include HD and +1 where appropriate.
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Pointless 3.13m (25.0%)
University Challenge 2.39m (11.5%)
Tipping Point 1.81m (21.2%)
The 21st Question 1.71m (14.3%)
Big Brother 1.23m (5.7%)
Eggheads 1.02m (6.5%)
Couples Come Dine With Me 0.97m (8.1%)
Perfection 0.92m (13.6%)
Judge Rinder 0.87m (12.7%)
Big Brother’s Bit on the Side 0.54m (6.1%)
Deal or No Deal 0.51m (6.7%)
Countdown 0.40m (5.8%)
Win It Cook It 0.28m (3.1%)
All include HD and +1 where appropriate.
http://www.bothersbar.co.uk/?p=8103&...comment-257759
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“That Emmerdale episode will turn up somewhere that week. Is Last Chance Academy a series? Not many will watch that.”
“That Emmerdale episode will turn up somewhere that week. Is Last Chance Academy a series? Not many will watch that.”
Not sure where it could turn up though, there's no slot for it elsewhere, unless they're holding the remaining clashes back until September, which looks set to be a good month for EastEnders.
No idea, can't find anything about it and we can't really tell how well it'll do until we know what it is.
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Who remembers Harbour Lights? The very fact they used "Heymouth" instead of "Weymouth" really annoyed me! You could clearly see it was Weymouth!”
“Who remembers Harbour Lights? The very fact they used "Heymouth" instead of "Weymouth" really annoyed me! You could clearly see it was Weymouth!”
At least it wasn't set in Holby.
Originally Posted by guestofseth:
“Not sure where it could turn up though, there's no slot for it elsewhere, unless they're holding the remaining clashes back until September, which looks set to be a good month for EastEnders.
No idea, can't find anything about it and we can't really tell how well it'll do until we know what it is.”
“Not sure where it could turn up though, there's no slot for it elsewhere, unless they're holding the remaining clashes back until September, which looks set to be a good month for EastEnders.
No idea, can't find anything about it and we can't really tell how well it'll do until we know what it is.”
Perhaps Corrie is going to take on the GGBO and a Wednesday hour long Emmerdale is followed by an hour long Corrie ?
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Gosh, that passed me by. Must have got grim for the show down under for Ten to move it given their acceptable ratings threshold is as low as it's ever been. That said, a lot of US imports have been rating very poorly on Ten recently.
It's a bit worrying but it did end disappointingly so I'm not entirely surprised it hasn't been too warmly received second time around. It really should have been a one season show. Being so successful for a summer show first time around though meant that was never going to happen, unfortunately.
I'll give it another chance, myself. And I wouldn't be entirely shocked if it holds up slightly better over here. As long as it doesn't drop much below 800,000 it should be fine. There's an argument to be made that they should be targetting more than that out of CBB, but I suspect the demos are probably alright compared to the channel's other imports and alongside the network's other new season drama at 10PM it'll outrate Suspects which they are rolling out the red carpet for so to speak, and sadly it'll probably outrate Wentworth Prison which I think is a better programme - so you can't see Under the Dome being in any danger over here even with an audience drop (as long as it isn't too dramatic) given the likely context.”
“Gosh, that passed me by. Must have got grim for the show down under for Ten to move it given their acceptable ratings threshold is as low as it's ever been. That said, a lot of US imports have been rating very poorly on Ten recently.
It's a bit worrying but it did end disappointingly so I'm not entirely surprised it hasn't been too warmly received second time around. It really should have been a one season show. Being so successful for a summer show first time around though meant that was never going to happen, unfortunately.
I'll give it another chance, myself. And I wouldn't be entirely shocked if it holds up slightly better over here. As long as it doesn't drop much below 800,000 it should be fine. There's an argument to be made that they should be targetting more than that out of CBB, but I suspect the demos are probably alright compared to the channel's other imports and alongside the network's other new season drama at 10PM it'll outrate Suspects which they are rolling out the red carpet for so to speak, and sadly it'll probably outrate Wentworth Prison which I think is a better programme - so you can't see Under the Dome being in any danger over here even with an audience drop (as long as it isn't too dramatic) given the likely context.”
Yes, the figures were pretty low, even for TEN. TEN did almost win the past week, but, Seven snatched it on the day the TEN network turned 50. The Commonwealth Games and other program's, Offspring and 50 Years Young, did well for them recently, so I see your point about their imports not rating as well as they could be.
I know, I saw the negative press to. I'm currently into the book, so my thoughts of the first season are being changed even more. That's not to say I didn't like the show. The ending was very abrupt, with no questions answered, so again, I agree. The penultimate episode was far better and could've been a better end to the first season. I'll be giving the second season a go regardless. I'd love to see it hold those sort of figures. The promo for the mentioned new season is absolutely fantastic by the way.
Originally Posted by Markynotts:
“I don't remember Berkeley Square
Just looking on Amazon and Invasion Earth is on DVD for £36 - it appears to be a Region 1 import only.”
“I don't remember Berkeley Square
Just looking on Amazon and Invasion Earth is on DVD for £36 - it appears to be a Region 1 import only.”
I still have it on VHS somewhere.
I enjoyed it but it was not well received by some.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“That Emmerdale episode will turn up somewhere that week.”
“That Emmerdale episode will turn up somewhere that week.”
I thought Wednesday, but now I'm thinking they'll use them on the following three Wednesdays, 7-8pm, then have an hour of CS from 8-9pm, with a new drama at 9pm.
I expect they'll be able to find three CS episodes, either through football displacements or Celeb scheduling.
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