Your Face Sounds Familiar was tacky though. Be honest.

Thanks for that. I agree, not looking great. It would've been nice to see them rotate it in with things like Big Bang and How I Met Your Mother in the 7:30-9pm slots. There's a big stock of episodes to enter rotation with production on the 100th episode starting soon.

Will be interested to see ITV's ratings in the morning - as of course they include STV.

Further to previous answers, BBC Parliament have obtained the rights to repeat it tomorrow night at 19:00. Interestingly it is scheduled for a two-hour slot, so they will need to fill STV's breaks with something.


And reaped a whirlwind when ITV squealed to the press about New Tricks snatching "their" slot.


Me too; Portillo was on earlier than normal due to the other extensive WW1 commemorations and might have caught some people out. I note that it's number 5 in iPlayer's list of most watched shows today. It returned to its customary 18:30 slot this evening.

Yeah totally but two wrongs ain't gonna make a BBC one entertainment show right. "Tumble" on paper is a rehash of many bad shows and in my blinkered thinking is a copy cat of "Dancing On Ice" which was put out it's misery. I dunno how they pitched it when they had a go on the see saw with Mark Linsey, presumably Clare and Carol were too busy and Titchmarsh couldn't do it either.

No they haven't and I'd be quite frankly appalled and surprised if they did anything of the sort. There are a few rather important news stories they are covering at the moment, in case you haven't noticed. Typical of you, that.

I can just imagine it now; "A deadly air strike kills many children in Gaza. But if you need cheering up, you can see z-list celebrities trying to up their bank balance by prancing around on a mat, tomorrow on BBC One".

And that is Tumble's biggest problem. People think it's tacky before they have actually watched to see if it is tacky. Most people think it's Splash without the pool. The description has it more like Strictly with gymnastics.

Dancing On Ice was just a rip off of Strictly Ice Dancing to me. ITV said it was in development long beforehand yet they used a couple of contestants from Strictly Ice Dancing. David Seaman and Suzanne Shaw I think

I was sceptical about the idea of Tumble when I first heard it. What I've seen and been told about rehearsals has made my opinion change.

I would imagine a marginal boost to the ITV Flop Zone, although it will of course all be stripped away in the officials.

I think the effect will be slight, as for example a 15% share across England/Wales/Northern Ireland would be inflated to just 16% UK-wide if the STV share was as high as 30%*. (These are not predictions!)

In terms of viewers in Scotland, this is what BBC One's River City was getting a couple of months ago at 20:00 on Tuesdays (consolidated):


Hard to judge, but I think 500k across the two hours would be a pretty good result for STV.

* assuming the same % of people are watching any TV in Scotland and rest-of-UK
The Scottish part of ITV plc's Border region has been disregarded due to its tiny population.

The debate was shown on Border Scotland (although that channel isn't carried on satellite, not sure about cable). Not sure if you were implying the opposite or not.

Given the buzz about the debate, I wonder if ITV should have tried to come to a deal to network it. I'm sure STV will be very quick to tell us their figures in the morning, I predict a ~40% share.

The perfect place to preview it would, of course, have been TOS but (sadly) it's not on this week. I have an awful feeling BBC Breakfast might do something on Friday although one hopes common sense will prevail

Think in retrospect ITV should have shown it on the whole network,it would probably have got 2 million. Many complaints that STV player not available to UK viewers,I finally managed to get it via third party site.

I suspect most viewers outside Scotland would have been completely unaware the programme was taking place and there was no possible reason to put it on ITV. Also worth noting it was (partly) up against River City in Scotland.

The only thing I find interesting about Tumble ( which I will not be watching btw ) is all the negative comments about z-list celebs and expensive production from the very same people who champion IAC every year.

And the producers of Tumble worked on I'm A Celebrity!

I doubt there is much interest in the rest of the UK though.

Probably agree most in rest of UK would not care,but it will effect the UK as well as Scotland.Would the BBC have networked it if they had arranged the debate.Think they would have made same decision as ITV.

I'm a Celebrity only works because of Ant and Dec. Without them, there would be no show. I'm afraid I can't say the same about Alex Jones.

IAC is a strong format (albeit elements of it are becoming tired), has high production values and is fronted by the country's two best entertainment presenters.

Tumble has it all to prove at this point and the level of hype in here has been ridiculous. For me C14E was spot on with his analysis a couple of days ago.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=8592

Weren't the BBC trying to organise a debate between Salmond and Cameron ? Had they done so I'm sure it would have been on BBC 1 in Scotland and BBC2 in the rest of the UK. Cameron refused to appear in the end. I've just checked the Daily Record web site but they don't seem to be aware the debate has begun

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/po...-avoid-3992565

I just meant I was using STV as shorthand for "Channel 3 in Scotland" although I was aware that it doesn't cover all of Scotland.


Interesting piece in the FT relevant to this [registration may be required]. ITV plc were offered a network simulcast and turned it down, opting (as the FT puts it) to "maintain its usual evening schedule of Love Your Garden, a horticultural show with Alan Titchmarsh, and Kids Behind Bars, a US documentary". STV apparently refused offers from Sky News and the BBC News Channel to show it. Both Sky and the BBC are in talks with the Yes and No campaigns about getting more debates on air in the run-up to the referendum on 18 September. I would expect BBC One Scotland's to be simulcast on the News Channel.


40% is ambitious but independence stirs passions which can go beyond party politics. And the UK election debates did well. I managed to tune my Sky box and watched, by necessity in SD (the first time I've ever felt moved to sample STV's content) and I have to say the licensee did a surprisingly good job in terms of moderation and commentary.

I think it will affect the rest of the UK if Scotland goes independent.

I am sure it will but that does not mean people are interested. They cant be bothered with any politics it seems.

Darling wins according to a snap poll in the Herald


http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/h...ins.1407264624

Conan O'Brien has the cast of Orange Is The New Black tonight so that's one viewer pleased!

Yep they've the perfect mixture of taking the piss, and affectionate humour. They are why the show will continue on, the more ghastly the Slebs the more fun they get out of it.

The same people that make it, made Love Island, which bombed. So it's pretty safe to say it's exclusively down to them.

Kielty/Brook or Kielty/Cotton not exactly Ant and Dec