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Old 05-08-2014, 23:26
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Darling wins according to a snap poll in the Herald


http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/h...ins.1407264624
I wonder how the SNP will spin that?
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Old 05-08-2014, 23:28
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Weren't the BBC trying to organise a debate between Salmond and Cameron ? Had they done so I'm sure it would have been on BBC 1 in Scotland and BBC2 in the rest of the UK. Cameron refused to appear in the end.
His reasoning being that he doesn't have a vote in the referendum, which seems fair enough to me.

Conan O'Brien has the cast of Orange Is The New Black tonight so that's one viewer pleased!
So you're one of the 11,000! Dancc must be another, so we have at least double the number of Conan viewers in this thread as BARB have in their entire UK sample.
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Old 06-08-2014, 00:01
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Programme news at midnight.

"@Lorna_editorMSN: Interesting TV news coming at midnight concerning the latest US acquisition to hit UK shores."
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Old 06-08-2014, 00:04
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And here it is. Where's Dancc?

"@peterzwhite: C5 is back in the game; apparently paying north of £500k per ep for Gotham and beating out Amazon (who desperately wanted it), Sky, C4..."
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Old 06-08-2014, 00:17
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Crikey, evidence of Viacom's influence?
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Old 06-08-2014, 00:21
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Crikey, evidence of Viacom's influence?
I thought that too Neil. Channel 5 must have paid a fortune to beat out Sky and Channel 4.
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Old 06-08-2014, 00:24
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I thought that too Neil. Channel 5 must have paid a fortune to beat out Sky and Channel 4.
In excess of £8m for 16 episodes if the above tweet is correct.
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Old 06-08-2014, 00:31
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Wow big money if true but unsurpring as it is probably the most anticipated show this coming season imo, completely unexpected for 5 to get it though and I hope people will give it a chance there. Really glad Amazon did not get it, we need programs like this on TV not just online.

Sky and C4 should now try to get The Flash as that is another show I think will do well considering the success of sister show Arrow.
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Old 06-08-2014, 00:37
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In excess of £8m for 16 episodes if the above tweet is correct.
Either Viacom money helped pay for this or budget was freed up from dropping some other acquisitions.

I can't believe Dancc is missing all of this!
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Old 06-08-2014, 00:41
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Wow big money if true but unsurpring as it is probably the most anticipated show this coming season imo, completely unexpected for 5 to get it though and I hope people will give it a chance there. Really glad Amazon did not get it, we need programs like this on TV not just online.

Sky and C4 should now try to get The Flash as that is another show I think will do well considering the success of sister show Arrow.
I would be shocked if Sky don't get The Flash too considering there will be crossovers with Arrow. I remember being furious when Channel 4 got Angel, the Buffy spin off. The crossovers were weird as you had to flick from BBC2 to Channel 4.
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Old 06-08-2014, 01:28
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Blimey! Big news for 5 there and bloody good move - a bold acquisition like Gotham is exactly what they need they want to distance themselves from the 'Big Brother and Daily Express factual' perception that they currently move. I'd love 5 to pick up the UK equivalent of Catfish aswell...

Interesting times ahead indeed ... and I'd be pretty worried if I were 4 right now. A re invigorated 5 is not good news for them!
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Old 06-08-2014, 08:07
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That's a big show for Channel 5. Surely they will look after this one unlike others that they have dropped after a while.
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Old 06-08-2014, 08:17
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Channel5 have paid way too much for Gotham, that's almost as much as the Beeb pays for am hour of British original drama. They can't make a good investment with Gotham paying that much when the maximum audience it probably will get is 3m if that. If it flops like Agents of Shield, it'll be a huge flop for C5. Bad move imo, should've invested in home grown drama instead.
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Old 06-08-2014, 08:49
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Wow Huge news there for 5, Hope it performs better than the highly anticipated Agents of Shield did last year for 4.
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Old 06-08-2014, 08:57
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Your Face Sounds Familiar was tacky though. Be honest.
And that is Tumble's biggest problem. People think it's tacky before they have actually watched to see if it is tacky. Most people think it's Splash without the pool. The description has it more like Strictly with gymnastics.
All Saturday night light entertainment is slagged off for being "tacky" the second it's announced, long before it's on air, when it's on air and after it's finished. You can take probably every succesful format on TV and find examples of people slagging it off when it began, Stars In Their Eyes and Noel's House Party among them. Most of it's slagged off because people generally do slag off Saturday night light entertainment for being Saturday night light entertainment and have got it in their heads that all television has to be like Breaking Bad.

If you were to look back at some of the genuinely bad shows of the eighties and nineties, like Caught In The Act and Anything Goes, I would suggest you can't put Your Face Sounds Familiar in the same ballpark. Your Face Sounds Familiar was brash and noisy, yes, but it was Saturday night ITV where people like brash and noisy. Look at The X Factor hyping up its ratings, it's terribly vulgar. But brash and vulgar is fine, in its place.

A lot of Saturday night shows have succeeded because they're brash and vulgar. Look at Total Wipeout, it was a big success and as daft as they come. Don't Scare The Hare didn't flop because it was tacky, it flopped because it was boring and not silly enough. Your Face Sounds Familiar wasn't a particularly good show but there are many reasons for that, the presenters weren't very good and some of the ideas in the execution were a bit off (the incomprehensible scoring system for one). People weren't turning off because it was brash and vulgar because it's a slot where brash and vulgar is what's required.

As for Tumble, I dunno, clearly they're spending a lot of money on it and the Radio Times putting "The new Strictly?" on its cover won't hurt. I like Alex Jones and it looks like it'll be executed well, but I dunno if it's too late for this kind of thing, it seems a bit uninspired, the result of people sucking pens and going "what haven't we done?". I doubt it'll ingratiate itself in the public's affections like Strictly has, but it should be a reliable enough banker.

Interesting piece in the FT relevant to this [registration may be required]. ITV plc were offered a network simulcast and turned it down, opting (as the FT puts it) to "maintain its usual evening schedule of Love Your Garden, a horticultural show with Alan Titchmarsh, and Kids Behind Bars, a US documentary". STV apparently refused offers from Sky News and the BBC News Channel to show it.
The chance of ITV showing two hours of that on the network were so remote, they're not even that bothered about UK politics. What they could have done is shown it after News at Ten if that was on the table though it would probably have rated poorly even there. Given people outside Scotland don't have a vote much of it would be totally irrelevant and while I'm interested in the outcome I'm not interested enough to watch that for two hours. Your average ITV viewer even less so.

But it was STV's programme and STV could decide who they wanted to show it. Nobody else's fault.
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Old 06-08-2014, 09:09
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The debate is being shown on BBC Parliament tonight 1900-2100 (presumably without the adverts)
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Old 06-08-2014, 09:14
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Wow Huge news there for 5, Hope it performs better than the highly anticipated Agents of Shield did last year for 4.
Thats the problem for these type of shows - their record in this country for hits is very poor. C5 have been down this road before although maybe not paid as much still I will give it a go - when will it hit our screens?
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Old 06-08-2014, 09:23
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And here it is. Where's Dancc?

"@peterzwhite: C5 is back in the game; apparently paying north of £500k per ep for Gotham and beating out Amazon (who desperately wanted it), Sky, C4..."
Hugely exciting acquisition.

A lot of money spent though to fend off the many other interested parties- let's hope it's worth it.
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Old 06-08-2014, 09:26
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Thats the problem for these type of shows - their record in this country for hits is very poor. C5 have been down this road before although maybe not paid as much still I will give it a go - when will it hit our screens?
From the DS report:

Gotham airs in the US on Fox, and premieres on September 22. Channel 5 will air the show in the UK shortly afterwards
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Old 06-08-2014, 09:35
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From the DS report:
Fast-tracking this one then. Probably makes sense to capitalise on any hype surrounding the US launch.

With The Mentalist not back until early 2015 as opposed to October as normal, it could be that Gotham will air Tuesday nights at 9PM in the UK. Hopefully in two uninterrupted blocks (as has been the case with The Mentalist) as opposed to a very stop start scheduling pattern throughout the run.
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Old 06-08-2014, 09:41
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New BBC1 drama #InTheClub launched disappointingly with 3.98m/19.1%, however this was enough to win the 9pm slot.
9:36 AM - 6 Aug 2014

Ouch! Not a good start. Looks like STV may have took a few viewers off possibly, but even so, that's a good million lower than your typical Tuesday BBC1 drama, share a few points lower as well.

Might need to revise Bake Off down a few for tonight now...
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Old 06-08-2014, 09:41
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New BBC1 drama #InTheClub launched disappointingly with 3.98m/19.1%, however this was enough to win the 9pm slot.
9:36 AM - 6 Aug 2014

Ouch! Not a good start. Looks like STV may have took a few viewers off possibly, but even so, that's a good million lower than your typical Tuesday BBC1 drama, share a few points lower as well.

Might need to revise Bake Off down a few for tonight now...
Oh dear.....and yet In The Club was top at 9pm
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Old 06-08-2014, 09:42
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Channel5 have paid way too much for Gotham, that's almost as much as the Beeb pays for am hour of British original drama. They can't make a good investment with Gotham paying that much when the maximum audience it probably will get is 3m if that. If it flops like Agents of Shield, it'll be a huge flop for C5. Bad move imo, should've invested in home grown drama instead.
I think it will do really well and should give Ch5 a 4m+ consolidated rating for the 1st episode at least. It should bring in a strong demo too.
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Old 06-08-2014, 09:43
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Low for Kay Mellor drama and that Tuesday slot. I'm surprised by that figure. I would say that it will rise as the weather gets worse and the series goes on rather than drop lower, can't see that happening at all from such an established writer. It was up against the independence debate so it could have dented it perhaps. A pity on the "Strictly Come Dancing" news that Windsor cannot appear. The line of dancers needs to be fresh i agree, but not shaken up too much, given the audience will have to try out Winkletoes. He's a popular dancer as Mark Jeffries was also tweeting today. The ratings for this year will be interesting as the all women presenting team launches.
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Old 06-08-2014, 09:45
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Oh dear.....and yet In The Club was top at 9pm
Lowish number for a BBC1 9pm Tuesday drama. The BBC will be hoping it doesn't drop too much otherwise it might be a long 6weeks, although I cant see it dropping too much.
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