Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“This reminds me of Ben Elton saying that when people asked him what alternative comedy was, he said his favourite comedy act used to slap each other about the face and then get into bed together, which sounded like a very alternative act indeed. It was, of course, Morecambe and Wise.
I think suggesting Harry Hill wouldn't work on BBC1 is to underestimate both Hill's skill and the audience's intelligence. Harry absolutely dominated TV Burp from start to finish, it was his idea, he wrote it and had an enormous say in every aspect of it. It's ludicrous to say it could have worked without him, the whole point of the programme is that it was Harry Hill's TV Burp. If he didn't do it, it would have been a totally different programme. It would have been Screenwipe. TV Burp was a success not because it showed funny telly clips - Tarrant on TV did that for many years, so did Commercial Breakdown and that was crap - but because of Harry Hill. It's like how we were talking about Caught In The Act the other day, the clips probably weren't that different from You've Been Framed but the presentation was bloody awful.
You may as well argue Shooting Stars could carry on without Reeves and Mortimer. Harry Hill's TV Burp was a huge success and 100% of that is down to Harry Hill. To suggest the general public can't handle him seems daft. I still don't see the joke of Keith Lemon but he's managed to work on primetime ITV1. Why can't Harry Hill?”
I remember Ben Elton The Man From Auntie being beaten in the same week by Stand Up Jim Davidson. The more traditional humour won out.
TV Burp was the perfect showcase for Hill's humour. Away from that and just a sketch show, which was inspired lunacy on Channel 4, it didn't rate as highly as other contemporary sketch comedies on BBC2 or Channel 4.
I never said TV Burp could work without Hill, I just said it was the perfect vehicle for his humour. There's a difference.
Shooting Stars was the perfect vehicle for Vic & Bob, got higher ratings than any of their sketch shows. I think Hill's surrealness worked in TV Burp, away from that format will 7/8/9m be interested? I have my doubts.
Carrott's Commercial Breakdown wasn't crap. That's nonsense. The follow up series with Rory McGrath, Patrick Kielty, Jimmy Carr and Jo Brand were crap. It should have been kept as occasional specials with Carrott that sometimes hit 13m
Tarrant On TV was just a lesser version of Clive James On Television that worked because of James's wit. Tarrant On TV and Floyd On TV never reached that level of brilliance.
As for Keith Lemon he has a very specific filthy act. When they tried to tone him down and put him in primetime he flopped on ITV. Doing a familiar show after 9pm with Keyhole and toning down slightly made him work.
For Harry Hill to be mainstream his humour needs to be more mainstream, but when it is it loses the essence that makes Harry Hill great. Surreal doesn't always work in mainstream TV, Look at Monty Python's figures on BBC1 as an example. Dress it up in a format that is accessible and uses popular targets and it can get ratings like with The Goodies.