BIB - has the affair with Shirley started already?

Slater Exceptionalism was back in full force in tonights double bill. Screechy Jean can't cope so she'll try and kill herself to get Stacey to appeal her conviction despite her confession in a sound state of mind. Alfie blaming Aleks for his own stupidity and ego

Horrible loathsome family with not a single likeable member among them. If only someone would burn their house down...

No, Jean didn't plan her suicide attempt as a form of manipulation. It was with intent.

Have you ever liked the Slater's? You said you didn't watch the early 00s and Jessie proves she is an amazing actress in this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgUf9hlTnnU
Jessie is too good of an actress to axe IMO and so is Lacey IMO.

The Slaters are awful.

Screechy Jean?

I can feel a song coming on.....

*sings*
Cheer up screechy Jean, oh what can it mean?

Pmsl!

And someone is going to burn the house down in a few weeks time, I bet it's that bloody meerkat!

It's a controversial new treatment for bipolar when the lithium isn't quite kicking in.

What's a controversial new treatment for bipolar?

Singing?

I just like singing that's all!

Singing Cheer up Screechy Jean at her when she's in the hospital. Ollie and Alfie should song it to her tomorrow.

At least Stacey is still maintaining that she wasn't in a bi-polar episode and it isn't right to use that as a defence. Also that the prison warden isn't being a power hungry monster, just doing her job by keeping the handcuffs on and keeping to the visit time limit. All the rest of them still annoy me though. Kat wants Stacey rather than her husband (sort of) with her when she goes into labour? What is wrong with her? Alfie thinks Donna is a 'vulture' - no, she is takine something you left free by nor following market rules, she didn't steal it. Yes, Aleks played dirty wiping the message but Alfie has broken the rules again and again and treated his job with contempt rather than gratitude for having something and now he has the same attitude to Ian's offer of temporary employment. HW wants to be self employed - tough shit - I would like to have been an actress or singer but life, money and needing to support yourself and families get in the way and sometimes you need to take what you can get to make ends meet - especially in Alfie's circumstances of having 3 children under the age of 4.
However, although I can't stand Alfie now, wouldn't his phone have his phone call to the answer phone on his log? It can't prove what he said but it will prove he made a call to the office at the correct time for a certain duration.

I can see Tamwar eventually telling Alfie that Aleks wiped the message, leading to more of a feud.

I don't think Kat wants Stacey there instead of Alfie, she just doesn't want to be left alone until he gets there. Kat doesn't know that Aleks has sacked Alfie, how does she know that he'll even be able to get away?

I can't lay Alfie's being unable to provide for 3 kids entirely at his door, although it goes without saying that he's been an idiot as far as the stall goes, plus dismissing Ian's offer. Why has Janine been able to get away with Michael's estate when she was responsible for his death and Tommy has as much right to it as Scarlett?

We don't actually know that Janine has got Michael's estate do we? And as far as the law is concerned, Janine is not responsible for his death - morally it might be wrong but legally she was still his wife (I don't think the divorce had gone through) and Scarlett the child he acknowledged and was an active father to. If Michael cared that much he should h*ve made a will to provide for Tommy or they could challenge it but I doubt Michael had much estate anyway. Most of what he had came from Janine - why should Tommy get that?

But let's leave Tommy out of it for the moment and just say he needs to provide for 2 children that are actually his and nobody else's responsibility but his and Kat's. He should be taking any work offered and not abusing those willing to give him a chance to provide for them.

Alfie should do the job at the caff, a proper job for once!

I don't think he was fair calling Donna a vulture it's not her fault he can't be arsed to turn up for work, the meerkat shouldn't have wiped the message though and he might get an ego trip on getting one over on Alfie but long term there's no real benefit is there.

I think the Alfie/Aleks feud might be a plot device for a future story line, maybe the fire at the Slaters!

To be honest many British (or English) people have that opinion too. I'm watching Benidorm on ITV, for f*ck's sake.

Philth gets away with absolutely everything and is is now the biggest joke on the show.

When Sharon dumps him we will have women falling at his feet again.

Why?

By the way did you see the size of Dean yesterday?

Just how the f**k could a short fat middle-aged man with a dodgy heart scare him (and Sean, Andrew, Conner, Jase, and every other much bigger, younger and stronger bloke that has ever been on the show) ?

Philth is totally laughable and so is TPTB's blind and sinister worship of the character - Steve Owen should have killed him off many years ago.

I agree with you, but Phil owns that persona. The audience are meant to hate him. I get the feeling that we are meant to be thinking 'aww poor, maligned Stacey, she needs to get out for her daughters sake', and are asked to stretch credibility and accept ludicrous situations to achieve that.

They're going overboard trying to make us feel sorry for Stacey so she can be excused from her prison sentence. In all honesty I don't even mind Stacey. She's been on her best behaviour and is a lot more likable than she was before she left 4 years ago. By all means let this version of Stacey return but let's quit it with the emotional blackmail from the writers.

I'm loving the Slater's at the moment, it's nice having more of them on screen.

He had half of the gym which Janine got and subsequently sold. Alfie would be turned away if he turned up at the school and tried to enrol Tommy as he doesn't have parental responsibility, so I'd argue that a quarter of what Ronnie paid for the gym should have gone to Tommy. Michael was only 41, so not entirely surprising that he hadn't made a will really.

Absolutely, he should take any work offered and he'll hopefully reconsider shortly.

Yes, I hate how the Moons/Slaters think the rules dont apply to them.

Stacey has made some inroads on this by accepting her need to be punished but it seems like she is now going to lie in order to get out of jail. I wish the CPS had just decided not to go for a conviction due to bipolar in the first place. They could have just said 'We think you're ill and we dont believe you' especially if Max, Kat and most importantly Ronnie (and Roxy bullied in to it by Ronnie) had come forward and said Stacey didnt do it. Simple. Stacey tried to get punished, wasnt, went off with Jean for a bit and then decided to come back to the Square later as Jean was doing her head in or something.

Anyway I digress...Alfie is a nightmare, I absolutely hate him, kill him off in the fire please!!!!

And you don't think for one small moment that Jean's ever-present bi-polar condition had absolutely nothing to do with her "screechyness" & subsequent attempt to kill herself?

Really, some posters simply do not have a clue .......

I made a will at 27, as soon as I bought my house and didn't even have kids. As far as i'm concerned as soon as you own property or a business, get married or have kids you should make a will, it is irresponsible not to but I know many don't.

Kat and Alfie could still challenge it in Court but they might not get very far as even though Michael's name is on the birth certificate he had little or no parental contact which was Alfie and Kat's decision. Alfie has been Tommy's father financially and emotionally from the beginning, even when they were seperate. Alfie will have had some parental responsibility by virtue of being Kat (the mother's) husband and now partner - he was at the very least Tommy's legal step father. And again, it is easy enough for him to go to Court to get legal parental responsibility, especially now the biological father is dead - it's their own look out if they are too thick or lazy to do it.

There is nothing exceptional about American exceptional ism - most nation's have a similar concept. Hell, the English probably held onto their the longest: the whole notion of "God is an Englishman". Indeed the American notion of manifest destiny can be traced back to their previous belief in the natural born rights of Englishmen.

And that's not even delving in the psyche of Victorians - who thought themselves so exceptional they gave their name to an age.

Only the French have held onto their notions of exceptional ism longer tan the English.

Would anyone thought Stacey's return was better if Stacey went to prison in December 2010 and then she could come out now and start her life again.