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I don't think this year was a particular strong cast. Sadly, It was the usual stereotypes that got selected. A few gamers, a few facebook models that got recruited and the usual cannon fodder morons that don't have a clue what they're doing. But I don't think that was the problem this year ... it's the double HoH, it makes everyone play safe which has led to a dull series and very dull livefeed.
Almost every week it's been obvious who was going home 5 minutes after the livefeed came on after Veto was played. Apart from the America's Player tasks, which have been pathetic, there's nothing else to the US livefeed except game talk ... but if theres no game for them to talk about because it was all wrapped up on Sunday then there's nothing worth watching from Monday to Thursday. With BB Canada there was something regularly going on with the livefeed. So even if it was a predictable / boring week you still had a funny secret task, or viewer participation event which was usually followed by alcohol being sent into the house which then turned the house upside down or made for some funny / embarrasing moments. If I'm honest, I think the US version is the worst version of all the Big Brother's I've watched. It's not the rule set at fault, it's the production. The producers have no imagination and don't give any thought to the twists they do put in. The obvious DR manipulation and competition rigging isn't even fun, they always pick assholes to favour that no one likes anyway. Even the editing of the highlights is garbage - it's generally so far from the truth that you may as well ask Victoria what went on in the house. |
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I don't think this year was a particular strong cast. Sadly, It was the usual stereotypes that got selected. A few gamers, a few facebook models that got recruited and the usual cannon fodder morons that don't have a clue what they're doing. But I don't think that was the problem this year ... it's the double HoH, it makes everyone play safe which has led to a dull series and very dull livefeed.
Almost every week it's been obvious who was going home 5 minutes after the livefeed came on after Veto was played. Apart from the America's Player tasks, which have been pathetic, there's nothing else to the US livefeed except game talk ... but if theres no game for them to talk about because it was all wrapped up on Sunday then there's nothing worth watching from Monday to Thursday. With BB Canada there was something regularly going on with the livefeed. So even if it was a predictable / boring week you still had a funny secret task, or viewer participation event which was usually followed by alcohol being sent into the house which then turned the house upside down or made for some funny / embarrasing moments. If I'm honest, I think the US version is the worst version of all the Big Brother's I've watched. It's not the rule set at fault, it's the production. The producers have no imagination and don't give any thought to the twists they do put in. The obvious DR manipulation and competition rigging isn't even fun, they always pick assholes to favour that no one likes anyway. Even the editing of the highlights is garbage - it's generally so far from the truth that you may as well ask Victoria what went on in the house. If we had just standard HoH etc like the previous seasons before Grodhog came along we could have had an interesting summer. The BoB / MvP twists just enforces Huge house alliances as Strength in numbers to avoid being voted off and it unfortunately runs till the final weeks of the show. |
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I might be in the minority on this, but I thought the coach twist really worked for the US series. But they should have remained just as coaches for the series and got eliminated when all their players left.
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If I'm honest, I think the US version is the worst version of all the Big Brother's I've watched. It's not the rule set at fault, it's the production. The producers have no imagination and don't give any thought to the twists they do put in. The obvious DR manipulation and competition rigging isn't even fun, they always pick assholes to favour that no one likes anyway. Even the editing of the highlights is garbage - it's generally so far from the truth that you may as well ask Victoria what went on in the house.
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Yes, I've now given up. I don't even dislike this cast as much as I have previous ones - it just is in a holding pattern until the main players have to turn on each other.
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I cannot stand Frankie, but I love Zach.
I wish Cody/Derrick would go up on the eviction couch together.. This not happening, is not quite enough to make me quit watching, though. |
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I love this series one of my favourites, I am glad to see the successful alliance for the HGs. I guess things falling apart is better for TV but I have the LF and have enjoyed watching the smarter HGs puppeteer the others.
Frankie is outrageously egotistical but I still find him entertaining so I have enjoyed his antics and lol at how entitled he can be. Zach is nuts but fun to watch and Caleb is fantastically stupid he cracks me up. Donny is lovely but I'm not on his side because he blew it with his social game and that's his own fault, I'll still be sad if he goes. Derrick is pure awesome and I am so impressed by his game, never on the block with BOB twist this far into the game and he runs the entire house. Derrick's game alone has made this series for me he works his butt off in his social game, he keeps everyone close and covers all bases. Not sure if he can bring it home but I hope he wins. |
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I love this series one of my favourites, I am glad to see the successful alliance for the HGs. I guess things falling apart is better for TV but I have the LF and have enjoyed watching the smarter HGs puppeteer the others.
Frankie is outrageously egotistical but I still find him entertaining so I have enjoyed his antics and lol at how entitled he can be. Zach is nuts but fun to watch and Caleb is fantastically stupid he cracks me up. Donny is lovely but I'm not on his side because he blew it with his social game and that's his own fault, I'll still be sad if he goes. Derrick is pure awesome and I am so impressed by his game, never on the block with BOB twist this far into the game and he runs the entire house. Derrick's game alone has made this series for me he works his butt off in his social game, he keeps everyone close and covers all bases. Not sure if he can bring it home but I hope he wins. |
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i have watched the last 4 years and this has to be the worst in terms of balance of power
i dislike Frankie but love Zach,the cast are all ok but not even the live feed is really grabbing me atm,which is a first for me being a live feed addict i am still watching the shows and a little live feed but waiting to see what happens now when whoever returns,hoping for some drama and a shift in the game i don't want Derrick or Cody to win either |
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I love this series one of my favourites, I am glad to see the successful alliance for the HGs. I guess things falling apart is better for TV but I have the LF and have enjoyed watching the smarter HGs puppeteer the others.
Frankie is outrageously egotistical but I still find him entertaining so I have enjoyed his antics and lol at how entitled he can be. Zach is nuts but fun to watch and Caleb is fantastically stupid he cracks me up. Donny is lovely but I'm not on his side because he blew it with his social game and that's his own fault, I'll still be sad if he goes. Derrick is pure awesome and I am so impressed by his game, never on the block with BOB twist this far into the game and he runs the entire house. Derrick's game alone has made this series for me he works his butt off in his social game, he keeps everyone close and covers all bases. Not sure if he can bring it home but I hope he wins. |
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It's more interesting when someone has to overcome challenges to win, just sliding by won't be of interest to most. And outplaying those who aren't even playing a game isn't that impressive.
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I agree with most of this. Not one of my favourite seasons because it has been too predictable but I'm enjoying watching Derrick play a near-perfect game and would be happy to see him win.
Derrick is a carbon copy of Maggie Ausburn, but I keep seeing people comparing him to Dr Will. He's very boring and leads a cult. |
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I don't think this year was a particular strong cast. Sadly, It was the usual stereotypes that got selected. A few gamers, a few facebook models that got recruited and the usual cannon fodder morons that don't have a clue what they're doing. But I don't think that was the problem this year ... it's the double HoH, it makes everyone play safe which has led to a dull series and very dull livefeed.
Almost every week it's been obvious who was going home 5 minutes after the livefeed came on after Veto was played. Apart from the America's Player tasks, which have been pathetic, there's nothing else to the US livefeed except game talk ... but if theres no game for them to talk about because it was all wrapped up on Sunday then there's nothing worth watching from Monday to Thursday. With BB Canada there was something regularly going on with the livefeed. So even if it was a predictable / boring week you still had a funny secret task, or viewer participation event which was usually followed by alcohol being sent into the house which then turned the house upside down or made for some funny / embarrasing moments. If I'm honest, I think the US version is the worst version of all the Big Brother's I've watched. It's not the rule set at fault, it's the production. The producers have no imagination and don't give any thought to the twists they do put in. The obvious DR manipulation and competition rigging isn't even fun, they always pick assholes to favour that no one likes anyway. Even the editing of the highlights is garbage - it's generally so far from the truth that you may as well ask Victoria what went on in the house. The houseguests are all just playing extremely safe and it isn't fun to watch. It might be recency bias but I agree with BBCAN, personally BBCAN2 is one of my favourite seasons ever. When Jon won HoH for the first time and we thought it would be a predictable week, things still got shook up and one of the big players (Arlie) was evicted. BBCAN2 was phenomenally good. Amazing casting and great twists. |
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I've watched every season of BBUK, many BBUSAs and even a BBAUS. For me, Frankie is the most loathsome housemate I have ever come a cross. For me there are no redeeming features, he is both a nasty person and a nasty player.
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I agree with all of this. People are so utterly terrified of people maybe coming back to target them that week-on-week we see Donny, Victoria and Zach nominated. This week they picked the nominees with skittles, how is it even a game anymore?!
The houseguests are all just playing extremely safe and it isn't fun to watch. It might be recency bias but I agree with BBCAN, personally BBCAN2 is one of my favourite seasons ever. When Jon won HoH for the first time and we thought it would be a predictable week, things still got shook up and one of the big players (Arlie) was evicted. BBCAN2 was phenomenally good. Amazing casting and great twists. |
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I might be in the minority on this, but I thought the coach twist really worked for the US series. But they should have remained just as coaches for the series and got eliminated when all their players left.
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Arlie staying would have made it way better, as it was most of the HGs were very weak gameplayers just like in the first season.
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It still baffles me how the Gremlins + Alison didn't see why it would be advantageous to keep him. I was team Neda, so I'm glad that they didn't, but there were literally so many pros for them to keep Arlie, and virtually none for them keeping Adel. They controlled the vote, but still gave away the game.
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His game isn't even perfect, he is really bad at lying, the houseguests are just too dumb to see through it.
Derrick is a carbon copy of Maggie Ausburn, but I keep seeing people comparing him to Dr Will. He's very boring and leads a cult. I actually can't remember much about Maggie but Kaysar has just argued that, though there are similarities, they're not really comparable because Maggie commanded a very weak group compared to the Detonators, which seems a good point. |
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That Derrick is a good lair is evidenced by the fact that he managed to convince everyone in the house to believe him and I don't see that the HMs are any dumber this season than any other.
I actually can't remember much about Maggie but Kaysar has just argued that, though there are similarities, they're not really comparable because Maggie commanded a very weak group compared to the Detonators, which seems a good point. |
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I hope they replace Alison Grodner this year and bring in a new producer with new format. All the HG's know exactly what is going to happen when, there are no surprises.
I think the players are not any weaker than usual. You could make the argument in Dan's season that the others were weak. In this show, Derrick is the smartest by far, but Frankie isn't stupid at all. And Caleb acts dumb, but has smart moments re the game. Christine knows the game too. I did think EvelD was my most despised player, then it became Amanda from last year, but I fear Frankie has outdone them all. He thinks he is getting fans for Ariana, but I think he is losing fans for her. I absolutely despise the double HOH and the Team America nonsense. Come up with something better next year, BB, or I think I may call it quits. |
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Unfortunately I've finally given up on this series, which is a shame as I really liked the cast but the whole thing has been so one sided and I've completely lost interest. I've been keeping up to date through Jokers but it's always the same side of the house winning.
I feel like it is mainly to to with the twist; the high number of nominees has forced a lot of people to play safe and there has been no power shift throughout the whole season which is boring to watch. |
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Unfortunately I've finally given up on this series, which is a shame as I really liked the cast but the whole thing has been so one sided and I've completely lost interest. I've been keeping up to date through Jokers but it's always the same side of the house winning.
I feel like it is mainly to to with the twist; the high number of nominees has forced a lot of people to play safe and there has been no power shift throughout the whole season which is boring to watch. Last night's TV show was actually quite funny. The editors are geniuses, they make shows out of no material. Its a boring gang to put it mildly. Frankie thinks he is entertaining, alas he is not. I just tuned in and the gang is debating getting rid of Frankie this week, but I think they won't do it. Caleb is oddly loyal to him. |
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I stopped watching around about Week 2 and from what I can gather I have missed absolutely nothing of interest. I don't think you could engineer a more boring season.
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It's been disappointing, predictable evictions because of the huge alliance in the house, and the fact that no one has the balls to put big players on the block. However, that will all change this week as the alliance will have to turn on themselves, there will be no one else left.
I am enjoying Derricks game though, best player in the house by a mile. |
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