Chris had begun to build a genuine relationship with Helen. She had begun to like and trust him. He described her as "vulnerable". He professed to be moved by her journey. At one point he described her journey as being "the reason I am here". Which was utter crap. Because had it been the last thing he would have done was renege on an agreement and betray her trust. She then felt a fool and lashed out as angry damaged people often do. No one should be surprised. People like Helen need care and consistency. In the end either he was not intelligent enough to understand this. Or his own need to feel superior to people got in the way. I liked him until this week but not anymore.
Chris, His Hypocrisy and Moral High Ground
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He has got worse, I liked him at the start, but since the bitchy crew left and he got with the only bitchy one left ( Ashleigh) have gone right off him, why do people think they are better than others in BB
Originally Posted by SpiritedAway:
“There were many rubbish reasons and that Mark and Ash came up with for taking that 15K. But Chris's original, true reason that he relayed in the DR was appalling. "Everyone is money obsessed. I'll take it to make a point." The smugness of this bastard! Like he's doing the rest of the house a favor or teaching them a lesson? Then, he goes onto say that he would split the money between himself, Ashleigh and Christopher. I won't make it out like doing that is any better or worse than the equal split Ash proposed since I highly doubt any of them would share if given the opportunity. That said, Mark and Ash have been consistently maligned here and by Chris himself. And it's deserved IMO. But why isn't Chris getting his due? He's just as bad as the rest. Worse! Because he judges and censures everyone for doing wrong while he justifies doing those same things himself.
And then Chris tops it all off with one of those self-righteous diary room rants his mate says we're so fond off slating everyone for their greed. It's amazing what he gets away with.”
“There were many rubbish reasons and that Mark and Ash came up with for taking that 15K. But Chris's original, true reason that he relayed in the DR was appalling. "Everyone is money obsessed. I'll take it to make a point." The smugness of this bastard! Like he's doing the rest of the house a favor or teaching them a lesson? Then, he goes onto say that he would split the money between himself, Ashleigh and Christopher. I won't make it out like doing that is any better or worse than the equal split Ash proposed since I highly doubt any of them would share if given the opportunity. That said, Mark and Ash have been consistently maligned here and by Chris himself. And it's deserved IMO. But why isn't Chris getting his due? He's just as bad as the rest. Worse! Because he judges and censures everyone for doing wrong while he justifies doing those same things himself.
And then Chris tops it all off with one of those self-righteous diary room rants his mate says we're so fond off slating everyone for their greed. It's amazing what he gets away with.”
Well said.
Originally Posted by Clouded Yellow:
“Chris had begun to build a genuine relationship with Helen. She had begun to like and trust him. He described her as "vulnerable". He professed to be moved by her journey. At one point he described her journey as being "the reason I am here". Which was utter crap. Because had it been the last thing he would have done was renege on an agreement and betray her trust. She then felt a fool and lashed out as angry damaged people often do. No one should be surprised. People like Helen need care and consistency. In the end either he was not intelligent enough to understand this. Or his own need to feel superior to people got in the way. I liked him until this week but not anymore.”
“Chris had begun to build a genuine relationship with Helen. She had begun to like and trust him. He described her as "vulnerable". He professed to be moved by her journey. At one point he described her journey as being "the reason I am here". Which was utter crap. Because had it been the last thing he would have done was renege on an agreement and betray her trust. She then felt a fool and lashed out as angry damaged people often do. No one should be surprised. People like Helen need care and consistency. In the end either he was not intelligent enough to understand this. Or his own need to feel superior to people got in the way. I liked him until this week but not anymore.”
As with Helen, he got close to her as he did Ashleigh, when he professed how he felt about her like he did to Ashleigh she wouldnt have it, she knows hes a creep and good for her telling him where to go.
Originally Posted by Fairy Wings:
“No-one in the house labelled him creepy or saw anything untoward & they live with him 24 hrs a day. I'm sure the likes of Helen & Ashleigh herself could spot a creepy bloke a mile off.
Did Chris call Pav a perv?”
“No-one in the house labelled him creepy or saw anything untoward & they live with him 24 hrs a day. I'm sure the likes of Helen & Ashleigh herself could spot a creepy bloke a mile off.
Did Chris call Pav a perv?”
Indeed, even after the HMs were made very aware of the 'creepy Chris' thing through tasks etc, he had his 'moment' with Helen when he told her she was the sexiest HM and put his hand on her back, we all know Helen is the 'Gob Of The North' so, I'm Sure if she had thought he was creepy in any way shape or form, she would have said so at that point!
Originally Posted by Angie_Plasty:
“Chris is unsurpassed this series for two-facedness, hypocrisy, cowardice and now greed. For such a shifty, dubious character to be held up as a beacon of decency and virtue is quite fantastical.”
“Chris is unsurpassed this series for two-facedness, hypocrisy, cowardice and now greed. For such a shifty, dubious character to be held up as a beacon of decency and virtue is quite fantastical.”
Beautifully put, Ms Plasty
Originally Posted by NLoyall:
“What is so decent about him doing his best to discredit Pav by making out he was a perv. It's disgusting behaviour.”
“What is so decent about him doing his best to discredit Pav by making out he was a perv. It's disgusting behaviour.”
Chris never called or made out Pav was a perv, but it's ok that in this forum & on social media calling Chris a Paedophile
Chris is beyond creepy a horrible two faced, toady I can't believe Winston went and creep face stayed!
Originally Posted by jim_lyons:
“Good to see the Disciples of Steven readying themselves for one last push”
“Good to see the Disciples of Steven readying themselves for one last push
”
Oh dear, not sure if what you say is true.......but.......
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“Chris never called or made out Pav was a perv, but it's ok that in this forum & on social media calling Chris a Paedophile”
“Chris never called or made out Pav was a perv, but it's ok that in this forum & on social media calling Chris a Paedophile
”
He did say Pav was looking at Ashleigh, whats it got to do with him who Pav looks or stares at? sweet fa.
Originally Posted by Clouded Yellow:
“Chris had begun to build a genuine relationship with Helen. She had begun to like and trust him. He described her as "vulnerable". He professed to be moved by her journey. At one point he described her journey as being "the reason I am here". Which was utter crap. Because had it been the last thing he would have done was renege on an agreement and betray her trust. She then felt a fool and lashed out as angry damaged people often do. No one should be surprised. People like Helen need care and consistency. In the end either he was not intelligent enough to understand this. Or his own need to feel superior to people got in the way. I liked him until this week but not anymore.”
“Chris had begun to build a genuine relationship with Helen. She had begun to like and trust him. He described her as "vulnerable". He professed to be moved by her journey. At one point he described her journey as being "the reason I am here". Which was utter crap. Because had it been the last thing he would have done was renege on an agreement and betray her trust. She then felt a fool and lashed out as angry damaged people often do. No one should be surprised. People like Helen need care and consistency. In the end either he was not intelligent enough to understand this. Or his own need to feel superior to people got in the way. I liked him until this week but not anymore.”
Whole post, very well put, great post. BIB I think it's a bit of both tbh.
Originally Posted by momoriro:
“Chris is beyond creepy a horrible two faced, toady I can't believe Winston went and creep face stayed!”
“Chris is beyond creepy a horrible two faced, toady I can't believe Winston went and creep face stayed!
”
Considering so many others do like him, do you think there could be something wrong with your judgement, he has gone virtually untouched by a vile and dishonest campaign against him on here and other social mediums by a few but noisy posters, have you considered why that might be?
Originally Posted by Rick_Crawl:
“Considering so many others do like him, do you think there could be something wrong with your judgement, he has gone virtually untouched by a vile and dishonest campaign against him on here and other social mediums by a few but noisy posters, have you considered why that might be?”
“Considering so many others do like him, do you think there could be something wrong with your judgement, he has gone virtually untouched by a vile and dishonest campaign against him on here and other social mediums by a few but noisy posters, have you considered why that might be?”
He's fooled a lot of people, I'll give him that.
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“He did say Pav was looking at Ashleigh, whats it got to do with him who Pav looks or stares at? sweet fa.”
“He did say Pav was looking at Ashleigh, whats it got to do with him who Pav looks or stares at? sweet fa.”
so reacting on what the ex HMs said was completely in the wrong, but it's ok to call Chris a Paedophile
Originally Posted by Colbert Bump:
“It's over guys, Chris won the battle.”
“It's over guys, Chris won the battle.”
Yes he did
but.....to be fair the public won it for him. Winning fights fought by others appears to be a theme in his life 
Originally Posted by Rick_Crawl:
“Considering so many others do like him, do you think there could be something wrong with your judgement, he has gone virtually untouched by a vile and dishonest campaign against him on here and other social mediums by a few but noisy posters, have you considered why that might be?”
“Considering so many others do like him, do you think there could be something wrong with your judgement, he has gone virtually untouched by a vile and dishonest campaign against him on here and other social mediums by a few but noisy posters, have you considered why that might be?”
Acutally it probably reflects what our society is like at the moment. People feel they are entitled to tell other people how to be and what to do and pass judgement even when they themselves are no better. For example Chris telling Pav to stop staring based on his opinion as no other hm had noticed it when he asked then but he still felt he had the right to tell him this coming from a guy who openly said he doesn't want ro make an effort with him or waste time getting to know him.
You have Ashleigh who has said how dare they talk about they money they arent even winners. She has twice demanded people to apologise to her.
All the hms telling Pav he doesnt deserve to be there.
Chris Ashleigh and Christopher all saying how the other hms shouldn't talk about spending money on frivolous things.
I just find it all a bit too superior like you are not good enough but they themselves cannot take the moral high ground because they done similarly horrible things too.
Telling people what they can or can't talk about etc. Is really no-ones business. In society today there is so much interference into peoples lives and people need to learn when its their business and when it isnt.
Well that is my opinion right or wrong its what I think
Originally Posted by NLoyall:
“Acutally it probably reflects what our society is like at the moment. People feel they are entitled to tell other people how to be and what to do and pass judgement even when they themselves are no better. For example Chris telling Pav to stop staring based on his opinion as no other hm had noticed it when he asked then but he still felt he had the right to tell him this coming from a guy who openly said he doesn't want ro make an effort with him or waste time getting to know him.
You have Ashleigh who has said how dare they talk about they money they arent even winners. She has twice demanded people to apologise to her.
All the hms telling Pav he doesnt deserve to be there.
Chris Ashleigh and Christopher all saying how the other hms shouldn't talk about spending money on frivolous things.
I just find it all a bit too superior like you are not good enough but they themselves cannot take the moral high ground because they done similarly horrible things too.
Telling people what they can or can't talk about etc. Is really no-ones business. In society today there is so much interference into peoples lives and people need to learn when its their business and when it isnt.
Well that is my opinion right or wrong its what I think”
“Acutally it probably reflects what our society is like at the moment. People feel they are entitled to tell other people how to be and what to do and pass judgement even when they themselves are no better. For example Chris telling Pav to stop staring based on his opinion as no other hm had noticed it when he asked then but he still felt he had the right to tell him this coming from a guy who openly said he doesn't want ro make an effort with him or waste time getting to know him.
You have Ashleigh who has said how dare they talk about they money they arent even winners. She has twice demanded people to apologise to her.
All the hms telling Pav he doesnt deserve to be there.
Chris Ashleigh and Christopher all saying how the other hms shouldn't talk about spending money on frivolous things.
I just find it all a bit too superior like you are not good enough but they themselves cannot take the moral high ground because they done similarly horrible things too.
Telling people what they can or can't talk about etc. Is really no-ones business. In society today there is so much interference into peoples lives and people need to learn when its their business and when it isnt.
Well that is my opinion right or wrong its what I think”
By the omission of others I'm guessing that you think only Chris, Ashleigh and Christopher do this. If you think they all do this (which is surely the most likely) then Chris, Ashleigh and Christopher doing it isn't significant.
Chris reminds me of Nick Clegg. Likeable on a surface level. Self deprecating, apparently morally superior and well measured in conversation. But behind all of that guff is absolute insincere, disingenuous, convoluted bulls**t. He fails to uphold standards that he sets for others and attempts to justify it with completely nonlinear and obtuse explanations that rely almost solely on his well honed nice guy act. The reality is that the ones that support him do so based on his shallow simple man persona rather than his more telling bastard actions.
Originally Posted by ollieyork:
“He wanted that money, the greed was written all over his face. So he turns it around and says in a very convincing, sincere manner that he's going to get rid of that evil money to teach all those greedy horrible people a lesson.
Sure Chris.”
“He wanted that money, the greed was written all over his face. So he turns it around and says in a very convincing, sincere manner that he's going to get rid of that evil money to teach all those greedy horrible people a lesson.
Sure Chris.”
I know and did he try so hard to give us the Honest John approach to try and justify his decision to take the money and only split it three ways. Yuck!!!
I was up on the moral high ground early this morning. The air was fresh and clean, and the dew was still on the grass. Far below I could just make out some vague figures strutting around. Occasionally they uttered guttural cries. They seemed lost and confused. My gaze fell upon a tiny flower opening its petals to the rays of the sun. It was good.
I'm amazed that people are taken in by this con-artist , he's unbelievable , such a hypocrite - talking about the rest of them as money obsessed and then he breaks a pact he made and takes the money .
but he's obviously Emma's favorite , she spent most of the interviews last night defending the liar .
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but he's obviously Emma's favorite , she spent most of the interviews last night defending the liar .
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Originally Posted by Desy Boy:
“Chris reminds me of Nick Clegg. Likeable on a surface level. Self deprecating, apparently morally superior and well measured in conversation. But behind all of that guff is absolute insincere, disingenuous, convoluted bulls**t. He fails to uphold standards that he sets for others and attempts to justify it with completely nonlinear and obtuse explanations that rely almost solely on his well honed nice guy act. The reality is that the ones that support him do so based on his shallow simple man persona rather than his more telling bastard actions.”
“Chris reminds me of Nick Clegg. Likeable on a surface level. Self deprecating, apparently morally superior and well measured in conversation. But behind all of that guff is absolute insincere, disingenuous, convoluted bulls**t. He fails to uphold standards that he sets for others and attempts to justify it with completely nonlinear and obtuse explanations that rely almost solely on his well honed nice guy act. The reality is that the ones that support him do so based on his shallow simple man persona rather than his more telling bastard actions.”
It's rather depressing people have fallen for it.
Underneath the facade is a man seething with bitter resentment and to make himself feel better he puts others down.
It's only those he feels truly superior too, those he has fooled, those that don't challenge the facade, that he has the time of day for.
He said it weeks ago, he doesn't consider Christopher to be even human.
It's a great shame Christopher wasted so much of his time defending him.
And it is interesting that he has fixated on Ashleigh, somebody that young has neither the interest or the experience to see him for what he is. Plus he's being useful.
Originally Posted by Rick_Crawl:
“By the omission of others I'm guessing that you think only Chris, Ashleigh and Christopher do this. If you think they all do this (which is surely the most likely) then Chris, Ashleigh and Christopher doing it isn't significant.”
“By the omission of others I'm guessing that you think only Chris, Ashleigh and Christopher do this. If you think they all do this (which is surely the most likely) then Chris, Ashleigh and Christopher doing it isn't significant.”
No its not an omission I said helen probably does it to but I cant remember any stand out moments when the ommitted ones have I dont have instant memory recall on everytjing single thing done in the house. I was using the clear examples I could remember feel free to add ur own if u have any. My point wasnt about any particular hm or hms but abiut this sense of entitlement that exists that ppl can tell other ppl what they can and cannot talk about or can and cannot do when frankly its trivial and nothing to so with them
Originally Posted by Speak-Softly:
“It's rather depressing people have fallen for it.
Underneath the facade is a man seething with bitter resentment and to make himself feel better he puts others down.
It's only those he feels truly superior too, those he has fooled, those that don't challenge the facade, that he has the time of day for.
He said it weeks ago, he doesn't consider Christopher to be even human.
It's a great shame Christopher wasted so much of his time defending him.
And it is interesting that he has fixated on Ashleigh, somebody that young has neither the interest or the experience to see him for what he is. Plus he's being useful.”
“It's rather depressing people have fallen for it.
Underneath the facade is a man seething with bitter resentment and to make himself feel better he puts others down.
It's only those he feels truly superior too, those he has fooled, those that don't challenge the facade, that he has the time of day for.
He said it weeks ago, he doesn't consider Christopher to be even human.
It's a great shame Christopher wasted so much of his time defending him.
And it is interesting that he has fixated on Ashleigh, somebody that young has neither the interest or the experience to see him for what he is. Plus he's being useful.”
And you see this more and more in in everyday life. If you admit you dont uae Facebook or twitter in a general conversation you get looked at like your crazy and odd for not being on it your haven't achieved some type of social status by not being it.
Originally Posted by jedediah:
“Er ..No ...
He's the creepy bloke you always get stuck with at work do's”
“Er ..No ...
He's the creepy bloke you always get stuck with at work do's”
I find that those with limited charisma themselves end up stuck with the creepy bloke at work dos. I never get stuck with anyone who isn't fun and lively and friendly and entertaining.
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