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sheils1
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by pie-eyed:
“I know Ashleigh is not a child. You are misunderstanding what I'm saying.

Helen's age should have a lot to do with her conduct. She's a grown woman with a child who has no social skills whatsoever and can't disagree with anyone without resorting to name-calling and foul language.

The fact that Ashleigh swears has no bearing on this at all. The post I was made was abou tHel;en's behaviour. Why should someone else swearing be used as an example of Helen not behaving badly?”

FFS Helen and co were having some fun.It has nothing to do with age, they were probably bored so had some fun unlike the other scared kids in there.
JOSWolf
08-08-2014
Ash has got cracking banter!
Sun Tzu.
08-08-2014
No it wasn't fun, they deliberately sabotaged the rest of the house. They knew they would effect the rest of the house by their actions.
quasimoron
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by ollieyork:
“Ashleigh gave as good as she got, lots of name calling and foul language from her too. In fact, didn't the housemates say she was the worst for swearing? Funny the highlights show don't make that out.”

They all swear in there, so forget that for a start. Helen is in the wrong here and that's the point and refuse to apologize and do the decent thing.

Originally Posted by sheils1:
“Yeah, thats about all she can come back with, wheres the Ashleigh people keep saying will have a go back at Helen?

Shes a wimp, can only run people down behind their backs.”

And Helen does not run people down behind their backs and to their faces actually in the most vile way. I can see why Helen has fans, she is a good Hm but do you not feel hypocritical criticizing other H'ms when Helen's behavior is so bad.
I like a few Hm's this year but i can see and admit their flaws too. A lot of Helen fans Imo never admit to her faults which are very noticeable. Instead they tear other Hm's apart, maybe to make Helen look better. Its not working.

We like who like on BB but Imo when you are honest about your faves flaws, you don't get so bilious about other HM's or feel you have to back your fave up, when she is clearly wrong.. It just makes people dislike Helen ever more.
pie-eyed
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“FFS Helen and co were having some fun.It has nothing to do with age, they were probably bored so had some fun unlike the other scared kids in there.”

The running round the camera runs wasn't what I was talking about.

The way Helen has of shouting, swearing and name calling all the time is what I have issue with. Not that someone whose opening words are FFS would understand that.
Sun Tzu.
08-08-2014
Helen and fans, don't make me laugh. More like some feel some sort of bizarre feeling to defend her just because majority can't stand the woman.
polli
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“Yeah, thats about all she can come back with, wheres the Ashleigh people keep saying will have a go back at Helen?

Shes a wimp, can only run people down behind their backs.”

Yet hellun is the one who flounced off sulking and looking for her crew to back her up .
While ashleigh took her on openly and sat on quite happy to continue the debate .
Scarlett Berry
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by pie-eyed:
“The running round the camera runs wasn't what I was talking about.

The way Helen has of shouting, swearing and name calling all the time is what I have issue with. Not that someone whose opening words are FFS would understand that.”

Well said.
SillyBillyGoat
08-08-2014
Ash: It was just a bit of banter.

Okay, the word has officially joined the ranks of the overused terms that some people don't know the actual meaning of. He might as well have said "literally", too.
Twinkle toes no
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by Markren:
“No one likes someone else asking for an apology. It's up to them to say sorry and not on someone's orders.

Helen is spot on here. Ashleigh has took what the focus group has said right to the head. Helen has just put her back in her box and showed her who's the big dawg. D'ya know what I mean?”

Nobody knows what you mean. I think you've been watching a different programme . Bless
rightaboutall
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by Val_Beam:
“Shove it up your @rse lol...but would there be any room up there,it's packed”

she willl always have room for one more,
was she not on her final,final,final but 1 last warning?
when they ever going to get rid of this gobshite,becoming a farce
they should kick her out after evictions
JavarnJohnson
08-08-2014
Wow, how can people possibly defend the fact that they didn't apologise? It's basic common decency to apologise when your actions negatively affect others.
Markren
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by Twinkle toes no:
“Nobody knows what you mean. I think you've been watching a different programme . Bless ”

I can't even....

.i..
EnricoIV
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“Can't stand the cow.”

I know, I can't stand Ashleigh either. She's such a cow.
Twinkle toes no
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by EnricoIV:
“I know, I can't stand Ashleigh either. She's such a cow.”

Love we are talking about Helen . Try to keep up .
ollieyork
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by polli:
“Gawd hellun looks dog rough without all her slap on .Sat there with mirrors all round she must be very aware of it too . While ashleigh looks great .Oh dear, no wonder madam motormouth hellun is in a bad mood .”

That's not really a fair or true comment. Helen doesn't look bad without makeup, and her skin is actually clearer than Ashleigh's, though they are both very attractive no matter what.
ollieyork
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by JavarnJohnson:
“Wow, how can people possibly defend the fact that they didn't apologise? It's basic common decency to apologise when your actions negatively affect others.”

They were going to apologise, but didn't want it to look like they were being told to do so. If people had of piped down and not stirred the apology would have happened, and there would have been less fuss.
JavarnJohnson
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by ollieyork:
“They were going to apologise, but didn't want it to look like they were being told to do so. If people had of piped down and not stirred the apology would have happened, and there would have been less fuss.”

What was stopping them from apologising then and there? If I'm playing football with my friends and accidentally kick the ball into a random woman's face, I'd apologise straight away. I wouldn't just stand there for half an hour, saying "I feel guilty", and if I did, I would expect her to comment about how rude I'd been (as Ashleigh did). It's simple common decency.
iain_stevenson1
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by BusyV:
“I have just watched the video from channel 5 website but it seems to have disappeared now strange

Helen Wood and Ashleigh Coyle went head to head in the Big Brother 2014 house this afternoon.


It followed last night’s breakout which saw Helen, Ash Harrison and Winston break out of the house via a fire exit.

This morning saw BB punish the whole house, removing access to the bedroom, all food and hot water from the house ahead of tonight’s eviction.

Ashleigh told Helen to apologise but she snapped back: “I just said I feel guilty, don’t tell me how I should feel, who the hell do you think you’re speaking to. Don’t tell me how to f**king feel Ashleigh, Queen f**king bee over there.

“I will apologise when I want to apologise not want you f**king want me.”

Ashleigh barked back: “Shove it up your a**e.”



Helen bitched: “Stupid f**king b***h, she’s a f**king rant in there.”

Using up the BB swear quota between them before lunchtime, Ashleigh hit back: “She’s a f**king ****.”

In the garden, Helen told Ash and Winston: “The more that people react… don’t kick up a fuss, if people kick off it’s going to make people feel guilty.”

Ash revealed: “I couldn’t give it a f**k. It was a bit of a banter. it’s so funny.”

Helen replied: “I find it funny I just can’t be arsed with her saying I need to apologise, stupid cow.”

Yikes!



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I really hope the BB producers actually start doing their job properly and kick Helen out before thre final.The evil [insert as appropriate] does''n't deserve a proper eviction
kikka
09-08-2014
There really is no contest. Helen has been central to this series of BB from the outset ( not that I want her to win and not always for good reasons ) ... whilst Ashleigh has been , at best , peripheral for l-o-n-g periods.

Her undeserved support from outside the house ( who see no wrong in her however much she continues to spit out her venomous comments or whatever devious things she does ) have manoeuvered her into a position where she may well win ( no doubt we'll be seeing anti-Christopher , and then anti- Chris campaigns sometime soon, as the cull continues. ) ... but if she does it won't be a victory for her over Helen ( who is already aware that she is unlikely to win ) , it'll just be a victory for her over her gullible ...and financially poorer as a result of it ...supporters.
ollieyork
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by kikka:
“There really is no contest. Helen has been central to this series of BB from the outset ( not that I want her to win and not always for good reasons ) ... whilst Ashleigh has been , at best , peripheral for l-o-n-g periods.

Her undeserved support from outside the house ( who see no wrong in her however much she continues to spit out her venomous comments or whatever devious things she does ) have manoeuvered her into a position where she may well win ( no doubt we'll be seeing anti-Christopher , and then anti- Chris campaigns sometime soon, as the cull continues. ) ... but if she does it won't be a victory for her over Helen ( who is already aware that she is unlikely to win ) , it'll just be a victory for her over her gullible ...and financially poorer as a result of it ...supporters.”

Well said.
SegaGamer
09-08-2014
I can't stand Helen or Ashleigh but Ashleigh had no right demanding an apology. Who the hell does she think she is?

For goodness sake, a few punishments for the whole house, big bloody deal. They don't do anything all day anyway so it's not like it's going to seriously effect them.

It's the last week, enjoy it before it's all over.
ollieyork
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“I can't stand Helen or Ashleigh but Ashleigh had no right demanding an apology. Who the hell does she think she is?

For goodness sake, a few punishments for the whole house, big bloody deal. They don't do anything all day anyway so it's not like it's going to seriously effect them.

It's the last week, enjoy it before it's all over.”

Exactly right. It was a bit of fun, nothing wrong with it. They didn't do it to hurt anyone. Chris and Ashleigh over-reacted, they like being indignant and angry. If anyone ever spoke like that to me and demanded my apology they could take a flying flip. Little girl is in for a rude awakening in the real world.
JavarnJohnson
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“I can't stand Helen or Ashleigh but Ashleigh had no right demanding an apology. Who the hell does she think she is?

For goodness sake, a few punishments for the whole house, big bloody deal. They don't do anything all day anyway so it's not like it's going to seriously effect them.

It's the last week, enjoy it before it's all over.”

She didn't demand an apology. She said Helen should feel guilty considering that no-one had yet apologised for causing the punishments. She was totally right, too. When people's actions negatively affect others, they should apologise straight away, not just say "I feel guilty". At least, that's what I was raised to do.

These punishments were, by far, the most severe of this series, so yes it was a big deal. They all ranted at Marlon for leaving them with basic rations, but that was nothing compared to what the house was facing as a result of their actions.
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