So that's where she got those man shoulders from!

How does she look 'keen to win'? I haven't seen her punching the air when her name is read out, or voting out anyone that may be competition for her.

If trying hard, singing well and entertaining us for the sake of raising money and the profile of comic relief equates as 'keen to win' then you could be right.

I think she's wants to win; we're all entitled to interpret what we see and express our opinion. Perhaps failing to disclose that she takes singing very seriously and all her over the top reactions to praise from the judges have something to do with it. I think she's as one with the majority of entrants to this year's CFA in wanting to do well, and I couldn't care less if she's been a little duplicitous in the cause of winning. And I didn't accuse of being simple - which she would be if she punched the air each time she got through.

Well if you saw the pic of her in the latest Heat you'll know she has the legs of an SAS commando!!

not really worried who actually wins but would prefer Ade, Kim and Edith as I think they would between the three of them get more votes.

It bothers me more when people on the "real" talent shows have the advantage of previous record deals etc. I'm thinking of the horrendous Andy Scott Lee (3SL) and didn't Lemar have a deal once as well before his FA days? I think the same goes for James Fox - certainly some of them had a lot more performance experience than others.

Unless you take all of the Comic Relief students from celebs who absolutely can't sing OR ones who definitely can (and I would find either option very very dull) - it's not going to be a level playing field, but really, it doesn't matter. If people resent Kim's previous experience they can show this by not voting for her. If people love Reggie for having a go even when he is tone deaf, they are free to vote for him. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter why people vote, as long as they do. I don't see any of the more vocally challenged students resenting those who clearly do have training and ability.

Of course Kim wants to win. She isn't stupid. She knows this will help her develop the musical side of her career and good luck to her. At the other extreme of musical ability, it wont have done any harm to Reggie's presenting aspirations either as I am sure I am not the only person who had no idea who he was before the programme. OK, I don't particularly like him but he will have made a lot of new fans and raised his profile in the area that he wants to excel.

I'm still trying to work out what Adrian Edmonson has been in? Did he use to present that show with Mr Blobby on Saturdays? Why do people know him?

The Young Ones & Bottom spring to mind

I dont think he ws with Mr Blobby, That was Noel Edmonds

"THe Young Ones"!!!

Is that the spin of the day?

Just watch Edith release a single.

My personal objection is the fact that we have been told countless times that they are NOT SINGERS. Why not just be upfront from the outset?

Clearly, Kim has had extensive training which has stood her in good stead for this 'project.' THIS is why she is coping so much better with the constant singing. Leslie (of all people!) has made the point several times that Kim is blossoming in there whilst the others are losing their voices etc. What she forgot to tell us however, is that a trained voice would indeed cope with the schedule. THIS is what I object to as I think it's unfair on the other's.

I most certainly do not resent any of their past achievements and commend all of the 'students' for participating in CRDFA. I do agree with lonepiner though, Kim has appeared (to me) desperate from the start and until the chat with her Dad last night, had just not chilled out. I think some 'Fatherly assurance' did her the power of good. Right from the start of the results show last night she seemed much more 'at ease.'

I would also like to say that I have appreciated the vocal quality of a few of Kims' songs. It's just that I am unable to watch AND enjoy her as I then find her totally 'unbelievable' She just does not seem to 'feel' any of her songs and seems to have no natural flow, every move appears so obviously choreographed. Her performances to me are perfect for the stage.

At the end of the day I just hope the final amount raised tomorrow for Comic Relief tops all previous records. I think most of us have decided at this stage who we are supporting and why.

Good Luck to them all!

LOL

You are a hero for lightening the mood of this nasty thread!

No, it's not at all clear that she's had extensive training.

And if she was so extensively trained, how has she been able to improve so much?

I am sick of the spin and the opportunistic rubbish that's being said about both Kim and Edith.

Can't we lighten up?

"Kim is a highly skilled singer specialising in jazz, rock and ballads. She has a mezzo-soprano voice."

Achieved by training? Or woke up one day and Hey Presto?
You Decide!

I'm Veri Light Thanks!

And you always believe these little puff pieces on cast info pages?

Or are you an irrationally Kim-hating spinning opportunist?

You decide.

LOL! I doubt it.. Did you see her on the dog training thing? She is completely wet!