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Winston was a completely shallow , static character who faced no challenges
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Blondie X
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“very true, my main memory of Winston will be other people doing stuff while he is in the background pissing himself laughing while constantly glancing at Ash for approval ”

Exactly this. I can't think of a single memorable Winston moment

Originally Posted by B L Zeebub:
“He lost the Essex and Kent votes, by pretending he was an Essex boy.”

Too busy arguing over which side of the water should take him
Dangermoose
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by od hominem:
“On the Goode' s twitter pages. ”

SpiritedAway
09-08-2014
ITA with everything. I was pleasantly surprised to see him go because this is typically exactly the type of monotonous, stereotypical bore the public embraces.
Blondie X
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by SpiritedAway:
“ITA with everything. I was pleasantly surprised to see him go because this is typically exactly the type of monotonous, stereotypical bore the public embraces.”

Completely agree. He was so dull, so bland, such a boring old dullard trapped in a 'OMG ee iz well fit innit' body that I thought his passage to the title was a given (as did he )
rorybb
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by Speak-Softly:
“You may well be right.

But what does that say about the characters who get the support?

That somebody balanced and unphazed by spending God knows how many weeks in that house can never win?
What is admirable about being so flaky that you let the situation get to you?

And surely the same can be said of Ashleigh?
She hasn't changed an iota, she's still doing the same she was weeks ago. We know even less about her character than Winston's once you get past bitch mode.

What do you know about her background other than she has a mother and a boyfriend?
She had no reaction whatsoever to seeing her two BFF evicted, just moved onto the next BFF.
We heard nothing from her about her thoughts on Toya being evicted or her thoughts on what Bianca revealed about Danielle.

This particular eviction said nothing more about the audience except that there are few people voting overall and that small numbers of frankly misguided people are taking the show very seriously.
Unfortunately, because of the low viewing figures, the average casual viewer who doesn't take it that seriously and puts the odd vote in for somebody who appears relatively stable and provides the odd casual laugh are being drowned out.

So yes, the "fans" of BB have won.
That's not necessarily a good thing.”

I think it shows something human about a housemate when the experience affects them in a deep way, someone who remains exactly the same in an uninteresting way is my least favourite type of housemate (doesn't mean they're bad people , just bad housemates) Ashleigh (IMO) has delivered something completely different then most people would have expected , she started out as the quiet , unassuming third wheel to toya and Danielle , then became the ice cold bitch queen who had an "evil plan" against ash and hated Helen , then she showed a more relatable and endearing side after Danielle was evicted and became (somehow , she is not a type the public usually goes for) the publics favourite and actually has a decent chance to win. She's one through lots of ups and downs in there. She is a flawed person no doubt , she is bitchy , judgemental and often quite self righteous but she's also
Funny , intelligent , perceptive and rootable. She's a type we've never really seen before and I don't think anyone would have expected what we got from her , winston on the the hand was exactly what we would have expected in the dullest way possible , he's like a pound shop Anthony Hutton.
Menk
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by B L Zeebub:
“He lost the Essex and Kent votes, by pretending he was an Essex boy.”

Get away! Who would be bothered by that except a couple of pedants on here! The vast majority wouldn't even know, let alone care.
dinbin
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by rorybb:
“Thank you!”

I 2nd that, OP
B L Zeebub
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by Menk:
“Get away! Who would be bothered by that except a couple of pedants on here! The vast majority wouldn't even know, let alone care.”

Well, it was a tongue in cheek comment, but, as someone who grew up in Kent and has lived in Essex for 26 years, I did find it annoying that he denies his Kentish roots.
BlueStreak
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“Exactly this. I can't think of a single memorable Winston moment



Too busy arguing over which side of the water should take him ”

LOL!

Well, I was born and bred in Essex but now live in Kent and I don't want him either side of the water. How about the Outer Hebrides?

Menk
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by B L Zeebub:
“Well, it was a tongue in cheek comment, but, as someone who grew up in Kent and has lived in Essex for 26 years, I did find it annoying that he denies his Kentish roots.”

Really? I think it's fair enough, when asked where you are from, to name the place where you reside rather than the place you were born/grew up. I would never see it as a snub.
Blondie X
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by Menk:
“Really? I think it's fair enough, when asked where you are from, to name the place where you reside rather than the place you were born/grew up. I would never see it as a snub.”

I would agree if he'd lived there a while but he's lived in Kent all of his life until very recently and is now using the fact that he moved to Essex a few months ago as part of his selling point to enter BB. It screams fake imo.
B L Zeebub
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by Menk:
“Really? I think it's fair enough, when asked where you are from, to name the place where you reside rather than the place you were born/grew up. I would never see it as a snub.”

I don't really think of it as a snub, but rather a cynical attempt to cash in on the TOWIE thing.
Blondie X
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by B L Zeebub:
“I don't really think of it as a snub, but rather a cynical attempt to cash in on the TOWIE thing.”

That's my view as well. Funnily enough, Pav is the real Essex boy in there but no one is promoting him as that
rorybb
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“I would agree if he'd lived there a while but he's lived in Kent all of his life until very recently and is now using the fact that he moved to Essex a few months ago as part of his selling point to enter BB. It screams fake imo.”

I didn't know that but that's very odd , maybe his parents are from Essex or something? Is there a huge difference between Essex and Kent? (Sorry my uk geography isn't great)
PERILLA
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“He was glued to Helen and her greasy house hubby Ash and he spoke up for Ashleigh on ONE occassion ....interesting that this old chestnut comes up as there really is nothing else of note that he did.

He was an hysterical hyena for most of his time there. Laughing his arse off at others misfortunes. Wonder was he laughing last night

I know that I and most of this forum certainly were.”

Agreed. I have also said in another thread that Winston and Ash were always giggling on in the background like two schoolboys whenever anyone else was arguing or getting a verbal bashing from their great mate Helen. I did actually whoop out loud when his name was called for eviction
B L Zeebub
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“That's my view as well. Funnily enough, Pav is the real Essex boy in there but no one is promoting him as that”

Exactly.
Blondie X
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by rorybb:
“I didn't know that but that's very odd , maybe his parents are from Essex or something? Is there a huge difference between Essex and Kent? (Sorry my uk geography isn't great)”

He comes from Sandwich which is right by the Kent coast (Canterbury/Ramsgate area). To Brentwood where he now lives is about a 2 hour car journey. He was born and bred nearer to Northern France than Essex

So I would definitely agree it's a cynical attempt to cash in on the TOWIE vote
Menk
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“I would agree if he'd lived there a while but he's lived in Kent all of his life until very recently and is now using the fact that he moved to Essex a few months ago as part of his selling point to enter BB. It screams fake imo.”

Mmm maybe, but seeing as they were all approached to enter the house I guess he was 'found' in Essex and that simply went on his profile. I can't see that it would be a dealbreaker.
B L Zeebub
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by rorybb:
“I didn't know that but that's very odd , maybe his parents are from Essex or something? Is there a huge difference between Essex and Kent? (Sorry my uk geography isn't great)”

Not much difference, at all, and Kent and Essex are next to each other.

The only difference is that Essex is marketable, at the moment, due to the dreadful TOWIE.
Leanne_Blake1
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by rorybb:
“I see a lot of complaining about winston being evicted , I really don't get it , he was such a boring static character , he didn't develop at all from his vt, delivered exactly what it says on the tin , boring "bro" type with no depth. He never faced any challenges in there , was never pushed out if his comfort zone , had the easiest ride ever , and would only have won because he's the sort of dull , uncomplicated character the general audience love for some reason. I watch big brother to see how people change in the house , how they react to certain situations , how they reveal their personalities (or what they choose to hide) how their storylines develop , winston had none of that , except some abortive showmances where the other party was always much more interesting (except tamara , she was as one dimensional and flat as him) , he didn't change one bit from his entrance , wasn't really affected at all by the experience , never caused any major stir , Chris , Ashleigh , Helen , Pav , Christopher (at least he had a storyline) have all showed many aspects of themselves , and have had to deal with many different challenges. Winston types always get an easy ride to the final based on nothing so I'm glad the audience have finally started to weed these sort of dull , static , un changing characters out.”

A very accurate summarisation of Winston the dullard's time in the house. Well said!
Sarahmonial2
10-08-2014
Originally Posted by rorybb:
“I see a lot of complaining about winston being evicted , I really don't get it , he was such a boring static character , he didn't develop at all from his vt, delivered exactly what it says on the tin , boring "bro" type with no depth. He never faced any challenges in there , was never pushed out if his comfort zone , had the easiest ride ever , and would only have won because he's the sort of dull , uncomplicated character the general audience love for some reason. I watch big brother to see how people change in the house , how they react to certain situations , how they reveal their personalities (or what they choose to hide) how their storylines develop , winston had none of that , except some abortive showmances where the other party was always much more interesting (except tamara , she was as one dimensional and flat as him) , he didn't change one bit from his entrance , wasn't really affected at all by the experience , never caused any major stir , Chris , Ashleigh , Helen , Pav , Christopher (at least he had a storyline) have all showed many aspects of themselves , and have had to deal with many different challenges. Winston types always get an easy ride to the final based on nothing so I'm glad the audience have finally started to weed these sort of dull , static , un changing characters out.”

Completely agree, and now he is showing how bitter he is with his slating of Ashleigh, glad he's gone.
dorsetwasp
10-08-2014
Originally Posted by rorybb:
“I see a lot of complaining about winston being evicted , I really don't get it , he was such a boring static character , he didn't develop at all from his vt, delivered exactly what it says on the tin , boring "bro" type with no depth. He never faced any challenges in there , was never pushed out if his comfort zone , had the easiest ride ever , and would only have won because he's the sort of dull , uncomplicated character the general audience love for some reason. I watch big brother to see how people change in the house , how they react to certain situations , how they reveal their personalities (or what they choose to hide) how their storylines develop , winston had none of that , except some abortive showmances where the other party was always much more interesting (except tamara , she was as one dimensional and flat as him) , he didn't change one bit from his entrance , wasn't really affected at all by the experience , never caused any major stir , Chris , Ashleigh , Helen , Pav , Christopher (at least he had a storyline) have all showed many aspects of themselves , and have had to deal with many different challenges. Winston types always get an easy ride to the final based on nothing so I'm glad the audience have finally started to weed these sort of dull , static , un changing characters out.”

Great post, I agree 100%.
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