How come Helen has been given a last warning but then
breaks into the camera runs but doesn't get evicted

Ejected.

For all the solemn way 'warnings' are sometimes given, no housemate has ever been ejected because of a running total of warnings. Scott in BB13 was said to have had 8.

Ejections have only ever happened for 'cheating' (weak reasons, both times), racist language - and Emily was extraordinarily unlucky that time; - violence or threats.

So wasnt threatening to piss on their pillows or to smack their heads in classed as a threat ?

I think Kitten was ejected because she kept on breaking the rules?
But then again, she was refusing to come down from the roof (or wherever she'd climbed to). Helen and the others came back in when told to.

Not enough of a threat to get yourself thrown out. Plus it wasn't made to their faces.

Alexandra was thrown out for making threats, but then she threatened that if anyone argued with her, she'd get her gang outside to bump them off "pow pow".
And she had that air of menace that made you wonder if there might be something in it.
(turned out there wasn't )

what was Nasty Nick ejected for - can't remember

Trying to organise a block vote with a pencil and paper. It seems very bizarre now - both the fact that someone had a pencil and paper, and the fact that someone would be immediately ejected for trying to discuss nominations.

I think BB won't throw someone out lightly. Emily was caught out in the post Shilpa/ Jade frenzy when they were terrified of being accused of being soft on racism. Dawn remains a mystery to this day. But throwing someone out will massively piss off any fans they have (which didn't really apply to Alexandra or Dennis, for example) and also give a kind of depressing air of failure to the series.

And there IS a question to be asked about Helen. 'Big Brother can change the rules at any time' - as we have seen innumerable times - so they could have revoked her pass to the final at any time. It really is unprededented for someone to have immunity for an entire full-length series, and we saw with John Loughton that no one likes passes to the final; I can't remember a single positive comment about it. Something has made them willing to keep her in for the whole series, and it hasn't been her massive public popularity. Either they have judged her a 'big character' (as with the way they kept protecting Charley Uchea and Dexter) or they genuinely do think they can do something with her afterwards, and want her to have a big profile.

thanks WonkyDonkey - yes I remember now and it does seem tame compared to things now - they should have revoked her pass weeks ago, it was not fair in the first place but then Pauline didnt know Helen then - or did she have an insight as to what Helen was capable of

No other hms have been evicted for breaking out of the BB house so why should Helen.

The thing about Nasty Nick, in that first series, it was basically the other HMs who exposed him.
They held a meeting and a few of them said Nick had been showing them names written on a bit of paper, and they decided it wasn't on.

Big Brother must have seen the footage of it, but hadn't acted as far as I remember.
I think BB asked him to leave, but it was almost as much a rejection from the others, rather than a forced ejection by BB.
Unless I'm remembering it wrong?

I wouldn't be surprised if, evem way back then, manipulation was in play from the producers. They obviously had seen him proposition several housemates and write down names. They probably left it to let it build, and I wouldn't put it past them to have told the other housemates (Craig at least, who suddenly awoke from his coma) and asked them to call a meeting and maybe that's why it was a court-like meeting.

Someone mentioned Dawn. Was she the one in Nikki's series who got a call from her sister (apparently pre-arranged if she wasn't being portrayed in a good light)?

I am currently rewatching BB5 (I'm just past the first proper eviction when vanessa went), kitten broke every fundamental BB rule apart from physical violence!

That 'Emily' thing was blatantly ridiculous; even Alexandra's using fingers as 'handgun' wasn't truly Threatening. But Helen's been morally, nastily, and connivingly awful throughout, yet she's been defended by BB till the Finals. Helen is the scariest HM ever!

Yes, some form of pre-arranged signal or message that BB cottoned on to.

Apart from the "pow pow" more implied than stated in fairness but still sufficient.

Not when St Helen says it. they are so desperate for her to win I quite expect them to say when its announced that Helen is the first to go on Friday that they had forgotten to say they changed it to a vote to evict, so Helen will be the first one saved.

Agree with Emily but Alexandra was far worse than Helen.

I think Helen's pass was never revoked because they wanted her to explode. These kind of things keep people watching & also it keeps us viewers & FMs talking about the show. Doubt there's anything more than that & cannot imagine C5 want Helen for a TV show? She'd be a nightmare to work with!

I think this goes some way to answering the question. Helen has enough of a background (a seedy one perhaps, but one that interests people) and is attractive enough to possibly have a TV career. I don't think it would work though, she has huge trust issues and would probably argue with every director/producer on every show because she would be thinking they were trying to stitch her up, she just doesn't seem to think that kindness exists. I am sure BB would have been well aware of this very early on in the show so it remains a mystery to me why they didn't find a way to "get rid"

Yes, I've said before that obviously BB knew what Nick was up to, but this was their first series, they were getting great press from it and it was drawing viewers in. Only once the housemates confronted Nick did they act, as they had to be seen to enforce their rules.

Nick was responsible for a lot of people I knew back then watching the show - he's certainly the reason I tuned in; if I'm not mistaken it was even on the news (although my memory's not that hot I could be wrong).

I often wonder how successful BB would have become without the Nick incident in Series 1.

I think they were always onto a winner. Where I work most of us became besotted with the show before the "Nick incident". The day it happened I was out shopping at lunch-time, heard over the radio as the first items on the news that Nick had been shown the door. I went running back to work to let everyone know what was occurring, am afraid much work didn't get done that afternoon, most of the firm were trying to access the Channel 4 website which kept crashing