This "Pav has joined Team Helen" thing

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trevor tiger

09-08-2014

Originally Posted by Tissy:
“Thought it was more along the lines of, if she wins she doesn't deserve it. Whereas Helen and crew thought Winston had it in the bag and actually deserved it.

Ashleigh may have won recent polls from the public but Winston hadn't received boos or negativity from the focus group etc etc., Iirc it was only Mark from their side who said Ashleigh would win

Admittedly I haven't watched and studied every hm recently as much as you though ”

Are you spying on me

I haven't really. I merely repeated something that Pav said that I thought was astute, I regret it now as it seems to have gotten me into a whole heap of trouble

BabelBrook

09-08-2014

Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Are you spying on me

I haven't really. I merely repeated something that Pav said that I thought was astute, I regret it now as it seems to have gotten me into a whole heap of trouble ”

Don't play the Poor Trev card!

Tissy

09-08-2014

sorry, I was just going by post 19 in this thread of yours.

You appeared to have studied some of their actions/reactions in detail

NLoyall

09-08-2014

Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“Don't play the Poor Trev card! ”

Haha yeh trev stop playing the sympathy card cos u weren't here since the beginning of this thread. Came halfway thru and then said all that in ur post how dare you

nazziek

09-08-2014

I totally agree with OP. Pav may want to be accepted by ash etc yet he still has the guts to nominate their friends rather than pick on the easier targets in the house just to be liked. Chris has already told him I dont want to be your friend, so many people in pavs position would have then nominated people that 'helens side' doesn't like so they'll accept him instead, but he didn't. He nominated their friends. He didnt think that Winston would be evicted, he nominated him anyway. If he had been playing a game he would have tried to get other people up for nomination who were less popular with the public so he would stand a better chance of staying. Everything he has done and the way he has behaved has all shown real strength of character. I know in his position I wouldn't have been brave enough to say or do some of the stuff he has and might have changed my behaviour to be accepted and liked.

trevor tiger

09-08-2014

I'm in my bed crying under the covers if anyone wants me

NLoyall

09-08-2014

Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“ I'm in my bed crying under the covers if anyone wants me ”

Not unless u have a body like pav

lady tatania

09-08-2014

Originally Posted by SillyBillyGoat:
“There's a fair bit of sneering at Pav and how he might "jump ship" and befriend Ashleigh, Christopher and Chris on here at the moment. I have to say, I'm confused.

The people Pav has nominated in there are Ash, Chris, Mark and Winston. Three of the four are Helen's friends. He nominated Mark and Winston as recently as this past week.

He's defended Christopher more than once. He stuck up for him the night Mark threw the potato at him, and last night he spoke up when Helen was starting on Christopher before that task had even begun. How does this illustrate someone who's firmly on Helen's side?

As soon as he merely sits with them and shares a negative opinion on Ashleigh (she's hardly exempt), people are up in arms about how he's joined "the dark side". Really? Do people just choose to ignore everything else? It's like the things that people don't like matter more.

The way I see it, Pav isn't on either side. That said, if he does join one, including Helen's side (which I'd hope not because I'm really not a fan), fans of neither side can really be annoyed, considering neither side have been strong allies to him anyway. Sure, he doesn't owe Helen etc any loyalty, but likewise, he doesn't owe anything to Ashleigh, Chris and Christopher either. (And for the record, I like those three).

(I started my own thread on the matter because it turned into quite a longer post than I anticipated ).”

Steve said on BBOTS that Pav had joined Helen's team.

blacklegend

09-08-2014

Originally Posted by Speak-Softly:
“He hasn't joined sides.

He's spending time with the people who will give him the time of day.

To avoid the acknowledgement that certain HM will not give some HM the time of day, this nonsense about sides is started.”

I agree up to a point. Pav's objective was to get close to a popular housemate. His first choice was probably Ashleigh, but between her attitude and Chris's, this was made impossible. His next target was Winston, who was more accommodating, but came as a package with Ash/Helen and co.

SULLA

09-08-2014

Pav is on the dark side

bbcrzy

09-08-2014

Originally Posted by Kabira:
“Yes he is decent and I think he likes Ash and has to put up with Helen,to be in Ash's company.

Helen does her sniping at him in the guise of " I'm only joking ".

I think Pav is his own person and judges each situation on his interpretation of the facts and not the personalities involved.”

do we really know who pav likes and if he's just playing the game? surely if he watched he knows Helen and ash are NOT well liked.

i think winston's eviction should OPEN his eyes that its about being seen WITH helen.

unless being in that house with morons has cause pav to lose his mind and abiltity to think.

Pollyusa

09-08-2014

Originally Posted by this_THAT:
“depends does he wana sit on the same bed as chris and ashleigh and bitch all day or does he want have fun with helen and do what the want, but if he wants to win he will have to suck up to ashleigh side and have boring week”

I thought I had seen all the shows. I must have missed the one with Helen having fun with Pav

Kabira

09-08-2014

Originally Posted by bbcrzy:
“do we really know who pav likes and if he's just playing the game? surely if he watched he knows Helen and ash are NOT well liked.

i think winston's eviction should OPEN his eyes that its about being seen WITH helen.

unless being in that house with morons has cause pav to lose his mind and abiltity to think.”

I hope Pav is playing the game as I really dislike Ash and Helen.

I hope this week we see more of Christopher and Pav together as they are both decent people and I like them together.

cardian

09-08-2014

Pav is like Jale, sucking up to people in the cool gang who don't like her that much.

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