Originally Posted by Annsyre:
“The voters like fair play. They will get rid of her first.”
“The voters like fair play. They will get rid of her first.”
How does that work in a vote to win, she won't be first out
does Helen know she is still really disliked?
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Originally Posted by ollieyork:
“They've all been pretty foul-mouthed and nasty.
However, if she had changed her personality to win public favour she would have been vilified as a fake.
As someone in another post said, Helen's outward aggressiveness looks much worse on tv than other housemates' passive aggressive silent treatment and secret sniping because it's louder and more obvious. But both are still aggressive behaviours. If you asked all the housemates who they'd rather live with I'm fairly certain the majority would choose Helen over someone like Ashleigh.”
“They've all been pretty foul-mouthed and nasty.
However, if she had changed her personality to win public favour she would have been vilified as a fake.
As someone in another post said, Helen's outward aggressiveness looks much worse on tv than other housemates' passive aggressive silent treatment and secret sniping because it's louder and more obvious. But both are still aggressive behaviours. If you asked all the housemates who they'd rather live with I'm fairly certain the majority would choose Helen over someone like Ashleigh.”
You can't change your personality but you can change your behaviour.. She is and always will be foul-mouthed vulgar and aggressive. The sort of behaviour that can and will most likely get her beaten up (again) and arrested.
Originally Posted by ollieyork:
“She can't hide from it, so she's confronting it head on and getting on with things. Ordinary people do a lot of sleazy things every day, not just escorts. Glass houses and all.”
“She can't hide from it, so she's confronting it head on and getting on with things. Ordinary people do a lot of sleazy things every day, not just escorts. Glass houses and all.”
cant agree,she did not have to appear on a telly show,she asked ash not to google her.
Originally Posted by gris:
“BiB - that's true, but if she'd behaved nicely from the start no one would have been any the wiser about her true personality and she'd probably have done okay. Some people will always hold her past against her no matter what, but the majority have judged her purely on how she's been in the show, and she's been an absolutely horrible person.
I don't agree for one second that people would rather live with a loud, obnoxious, aggressive, ignorant, abusive bully than with someone who is capable of being civil to people they don't like.”
“BiB - that's true, but if she'd behaved nicely from the start no one would have been any the wiser about her true personality and she'd probably have done okay. Some people will always hold her past against her no matter what, but the majority have judged her purely on how she's been in the show, and she's been an absolutely horrible person.
I don't agree for one second that people would rather live with a loud, obnoxious, aggressive, ignorant, abusive bully than with someone who is capable of being civil to people they don't like.”
I'd believe it of most of this lot. The majority of them have shown themselves to be unpalatable and objectionable.
I think BB would have changed the rules if Helen hadn't have been so obnoxious. Because she is a "character" they have kept her in, if she had been boring they would have had a rule change and we would have been able to get her out.
Not someone i would want my sons to bring home!!
Not someone i would want my sons to bring home!!
Apparently "everyone" will be excited to see them, according to Ash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMcm...1ZVvfpyJIloNrw
Helen can't resist querying who would be pleased to see Chris!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMcm...1ZVvfpyJIloNrw
Helen can't resist querying who would be pleased to see Chris!
Originally Posted by amiable:
“Say what you want about Helen BUT I think it says a lot that she has formed strong bonds with Mark and Ash and yet Ashleigh does not really know anyone - she isn't a loyal friend. She never cried when her 'best friend' Danielle left. I prefer someone who is loya, honest and what you see is what you get, rather than some spoilt, bitchy, brat”
“Say what you want about Helen BUT I think it says a lot that she has formed strong bonds with Mark and Ash and yet Ashleigh does not really know anyone - she isn't a loyal friend. She never cried when her 'best friend' Danielle left. I prefer someone who is loya, honest and what you see is what you get, rather than some spoilt, bitchy, brat”
Did Helen cry when Mark and Winston left? If she did it was only because she realised the chances of the prize sharing pact was up in smoke.
Every time I think Helen is acting in a more civilized manner, she74
/5 reverts to bitchiness, name calling, mixing and manipulating.
Leopards dont change their spots and neither do some ppl.
They can hide their true nature but it always surfaces again
Originally Posted by ollieyork:
“Helen knows she'll be booed. She was booed going in and expects it will get worse going out. She is nothing if not a realist, and to her credit she's a strong person to be able to deal with it, and all the hate for her on social media.
I had no idea who she was before the series started, and I don't give a fig about her past, but I think it's good that some viewers were able to be objective and see she has friends in the house who insist she has the biggest heart in there, and she has shown herself to be honest and loyal to a fault. Maybe she will get a few cheers on the way out for that.”
“Helen knows she'll be booed. She was booed going in and expects it will get worse going out. She is nothing if not a realist, and to her credit she's a strong person to be able to deal with it, and all the hate for her on social media.
I had no idea who she was before the series started, and I don't give a fig about her past, but I think it's good that some viewers were able to be objective and see she has friends in the house who insist she has the biggest heart in there, and she has shown herself to be honest and loyal to a fault. Maybe she will get a few cheers on the way out for that.”
It's a pity her son has to grow up with her bad reputation to carry with him in the future, she should have thought more about him than being honest to a fault, fair play she took in all the stragglers, they who obeyed
Originally Posted by snariek:
“Has she already got a few clients lined up then?”
“Has she already got a few clients lined up then?”
I don't have a clue and I don't care. After Friday I don't give one iota about the HM's but Helen has entertained me all summer for that I thank her.
Originally Posted by ollieyork:
“They've all been pretty foul-mouthed and nasty.
As someone in another post said, Helen's outward aggressiveness looks much worse on tv than other housemates' passive aggressive silent treatment and secret sniping because it's louder and more obvious. But both are still aggressive behaviours. If you asked all the housemates who they'd rather live with I'm fairly certain the majority would choose Helen over someone like Ashleigh.”
“They've all been pretty foul-mouthed and nasty.
As someone in another post said, Helen's outward aggressiveness looks much worse on tv than other housemates' passive aggressive silent treatment and secret sniping because it's louder and more obvious. But both are still aggressive behaviours. If you asked all the housemates who they'd rather live with I'm fairly certain the majority would choose Helen over someone like Ashleigh.”
Are you serious, the only reason Ashleigh is like that is having to live with this vulgar aggressive foghorn foul mouthed bullying brainless waste of life named Helen
I like Helen.
Yes, she does know she is disliked, she just doesn't focus too much on it, I think.
It's not something to be particularly proud off, unless your Steven, who takes it as a badge of honor.
Although, she hasn't been booed or chanted since Week 2.
Yes, she does know she is disliked, she just doesn't focus too much on it, I think.
It's not something to be particularly proud off, unless your Steven, who takes it as a badge of honor.
Although, she hasn't been booed or chanted since Week 2.
Originally Posted by Annsyre:
“She had a golden opportunity to go in and redeem herself.
Instead she confirmed herself to be a foul-mouthed aggressive vulgar bully.”
“She had a golden opportunity to go in and redeem herself.
Instead she confirmed herself to be a foul-mouthed aggressive vulgar bully.”
Totally this. I was all prepared to give her a chance, but she let herself down more than badly. She's given the oldest profession a bad name. I'm sure most ladies of the night are not such hard faced, aggressive, vicious, bullying b*tches.
Originally Posted by gillipot:
“ ...fair play she took in all the stragglers, they who obeyed”
“ ...fair play she took in all the stragglers, they who obeyed”
Yes. If you complimented her and agreed with her every word and NEVER disagreed or argued with her and crawled right up her a*se, (like the obnoxious, lily livered oaf, Steven Goode), then she was bighearted, loyal to a fault and always had your back, but cross her and have an opinion of your own, which did not agree with hers, then woe betide, you were a f*cking a*sehole/ d*ck/ tw*t or cn*t.
This kind of obnoxious excuse for a person cannot be lauded and rewarded for her vile behaviour.
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