Interesting point. As someone who liked Shell (and Becki) in BB5, I find this a fairly hostile environment. Typical Shell threads seem to be ones slagging her off, complaining about one supposed moral failing or another.

I see what you mean about Victor and Michelle too. Are people still saying "Thicktor", "bully", "thug"?; and Michelle gets it even worse.

I'm not sure what can be done about it though. Fan sites always have an advantage by tending to be positive and to be filled with, well, people who like the person they're fans of.

If I wanted to post news about Shell, for instance, why would I do it here where it's likely to set off another round of complaints about her?

Anyone with more than 13000 posts has probably lost their amateur status by now.

Or anyone who reappears at the first sign of controversy.

I thought you meant Mes for a minute.

I'm not suggesting that it's a new thing, nor am I suggesting that it should be avoided. It's just that there is far too much of it & that can be putting people off from joining and contributing.

I accept that the DS BB forum has always had 'trolls, cliques, intolerance etc' but not on the scale that it has had since the end of BB5's run.

I think what is important is not what we all think is to blame but what we can all do to begin changing things.

You could post your news-links here as well as elsewhere, but is it worth the hassle?

Thats exactly how I feel. The show is great entertainment for 10 weeks a year. The forum goes on for maybe a month or so longer then, thats it, onto whatever the next thing of interest is.
By a couple of months after the end of each BB, I've forgotten who most of the HMs were anyway. Its roll on next year after a while.

At least that isn't me...I'm always here....

Again it's like I said about the show appealing to our baser instincts, going straight for the love/hate...and that is being stirred up in the editing and the nature of the show (BB gets evil...encouragement to boo)....The whole Lipstick Bitches vs Whatever They Were called split and the vagueness of fightnight....We've been encouraged to be nasty as a viewing audience.....

Yes I admit I'm as guilty as anyone else....but Celeb BB was something of a shock when it appeared to get even nastier based on nothing at all....The shows aren't what they used to be. It was once an interesting study into human behavior now it;s very openly gladiatorial battling for the baying mob.....

I think that hit the nail on the head, Mes.

It seems to me that when the show began BBs role was to provide a stage on which personality/character could develop. From the viewers point of view we saw characters develop over 9 weeks.........it would seem only natural that we would be interested in how they further developed over the succeeding months., ie we wanted to follow them after the show because we felt we knew them.


Now it seems that BBs role is to provide not the stage but the play itself and once the play is over the fictitous characters have no life.


I mean no one bothers much what happens to the Capulets and Montagues after the final curtain falls.......

Thank you Eddy. That is the point I was trying to make yesterday. All the posters here who make a point of telling us how uninterested they are in the housemates once BB is over can be offputting to those of us who maintain an interest in our favourite housemates. Even those of us who maintain an interest in those we didn't like. It's no use complaining that the forum is boring due to lack of threads if you can't be bothered to go out looking for stuff.

All the news that Eddy mentioned is available to members at the jtforum as posters there take interest in the housemates. You can't just rely on people like Eddy to keep this place informed though. You have to do it for yourselves if that's what you want. IMO

No one complained the forum is boring...we said the housemates clearly were or there'd be more discussion about them...They have failed to spark interest outside of their own fan sites and that's not very good at all really......It's also very easy to avoid threads you feel are going to be offputting...no one has twisted your arm to read them....


I know that forum

I don't like to nitpick, but I think you'll find that you actually joined the forum between BB3 and BB4.... :sleep:

Well spotted.............

That about hits it on (or in) the head for me. In the begining, it looked like people were picked for their natural ability to bounce off each other and the core focus of the whole thing was BB itself; no one really cared about what would happen to them after.

Now, it looks like people are being cherry picked for their ability to fit in to pre-conceived roles that BB themselves want to portray, in order to further BB's public image.

Seems like making the pastry on the pie look appetising, but when you bite in to find the real meat, it's all a dissapointment.

Michelle.

Take a look at this thread here & the reaction that the thread starter gets. That goes some way towards explaining what is wrong with this forum.

It would have been even worse if it concerned Michelle and J-J were still around .....

..... and then dozens would have "piled-on" the bile and invective .....

Hardly that bad really was it....

There isn't a great deal wrong with this forum IMO. I think Swing hit the nail on the head when he attributed the apathy to the lack of enduring characters in BB5 and their inability to gain empathy from a large number of FMs.

I feel with regard to BB5 that there was some transference of the behaviour seen on the show over onto the forum, I think that the mods have dealt with this in a speedy and effective manner, particually when the show was on and the numbers of posts made was crazy. Unfortunately this will 'scare' some FMs off but I'm sure we've seen a significant net increase in the number of posters on DS:BB. I can remember the mid winter lull turning this forum into a morgue.

Some of the comments on this thread are a bit rich with regard to long standing and established posters and some kind of mob or cliquish behaviour. There was far more of a mob mentality in bygone days and it would be easy back then to have accused a group like the 'Angels' of clique like behaviour rather than seeing them as a commited group of Alex supporters. I didn't enjoy seeing FMs having their name lampooned - Londonpalling springs to mind - and felt that crossed a line, but I always enjoyed having an enthusiastic bunch here to debate with.

there was a bit of sarcasm there but nothing particulary vindictive. And what happened at the end? Anna 123 came up with a useful suggestion for the thread starter. I've found most forum members to be helpful if you ask a question or a favour
BTW Has anybody got the full highlights programme of fightnight that they could lend or trade with me?....

All of the 'endearing' characters have their own fansites..

i can't stand the bb 5 housemates they were cring worthy and embarrasing to watch the next lot of housemates need to take things down a peg or 2

oh and the forums are always slow this time of year but things should sky rocket in the next couple of weeks mabey b the end of the mounth

RUMORS RUMORS the best part about BIG BROTHER

I've read quite a lot of past posts recently(while my broken leg is repinned)and a lot of the people who have posted on this thread have been very rude and insulting about Big Brother Housemates.They just haven't been banned or "driven away" like some.
BB is NOT ON-that is why it's quiet surely.Most people wouldn't look at an internet forum out of season would they?Seems Obvious.

What's that on the back of your shoe ?