"bouncebackability" ... interesting word. I had a think about the characters these last few days, and my personal conclusion is that Big Brother is turning in to form of Pop whatever-it-is. I feel that it is becoming a stronger influence, in chosing the key HM's, not for what they can do in the house, but what they are likely to do outside the house and their longevity in carrying the Big Brother batton. The rest of the HM personalities are then chosen to interect with these "key people."

Also, a friend of mine who has been watching the fight night footage over and over, (and who has, in my personal oppinion, a great deal of knowledge and experience of interpersonal communication) is increasingly of the oppinion that fight night was entirely staged.

My ex-partner was on Scrapheap Challenge, and when I found out of the degree of staging that goes on purely to make good TV, I was very disillusioned and haven't watched either the parent programme or the Scrappy Races that was spawned. If Big Brother continues to go down this path, then I for one will just turn off ... I only saw three programes of CBB3 this year and I envisage my own viewing interest in BB6 being quite low.

CHEEKS - Check your private messages and drop me a line on the e-mail address I've given in the message re-your earlier request.

Michelle.

You don't have to have any kind of experience to know that, it's obvious to even a blind man that it was all set up for maximum effect, only it went even further than the producers expected.

Happy families don't make ratings but fireworks, matches and egocentric idiots do.

you could see fight night happening a mile off. Davina McCall was even more excited than usual on the night. I've just seen some of the footage and not long before it all kicked off Victor said that something was going to occur in the next couple of days. It just happened a bit sooner than he expected.....

Hi ForumDiva, Hi Cheeks,

Most people seem to think that it was a case of Big Brother socially engineering the situation and then letting it spark up, but what I am saying is that it looked to be even more engineered than that. It looks like the producers got exactly what they expected; exactly what they wanted; possibly even exactly what they asked for?

Michelle.

hi Michelle,
your comments remind me that C4 had a reality show (can't remember its name) where half the cast were actors and the producers manufactured certain situations as they saw fit. Maybe we're talking about that scenario happening in BB. After all we never see everything that happens in the Diary room do we?.......

I do not agree with the people who feel that BB5 hms did not have longevity. I do feel that this series was about who you hated and the freedom to hate as much as you wanted. The majority of threads were aimed at the dislike of a hm and whatever situation you felt that they had sullied. No BB5 hm has been able to come out with the majority of people really wishing them well. Every little thing they do is pounced on and teared apart like they are Public Enemy 1.
So if the object of your hate is no longer in your range, the need to continue your vitrol against them is no longer neccessary. That to me, may be why these forums have taken on a lull.

when you consider the hours of exposure that the hms get during BB you cannot blame people if that's the last they want to see of them.
The cynic in me however thinks that all the hms are interested in is making money rather than the experience. Nothing wrong with that as they've made the effort to get on the programme in the first place
Hate is too strong a word in my opinion although it can be easy to dislike someone you've never met by how they behave
As someone has already pointed out if you want to know what the housemates are getting up to there are various means of doing so if you want to know badly enough

I think that's the problem. The lab rats in the house experiment are now being bread specifically for longetivity when released back in to the wild.

Nothing wrong with that in principle, say I, but Big Brother are focusing on the release to the wild, rather than the experiment itself; and it is the experiment that suffers.

Michelle

[Edited - I knew watching The Hollow Man while drinking would do wierd things to my perspective.]

i reckon the 'BB-experiment' completed the stage of analysis after BB/1-3 , and applyed in-depth programming for BB-4 thru to BB-5...
ie: voluntary HM/BB-agents with pre-emptive roles.

if the above is true, then BB, as we know it, may die a death during BB-6 or 7...the show would be so OTT contrived, that there would be a serious outbreak of nausea amoungst the viewing public..

re: boring 'after-life' of BB-Hms/Forum..

personally, i don't seem to be attached or too interested in ex-Hms..
if i casually happen to hear or see news about them, then i'll maybe take notice..
my ample dose of "perpetual psyche analysing, zoo-box viewing, flashbacks of past experiences that parallel Hms, moments of knitting needles/guillotine posture, undying support for fave Hms, lack of sleep, daylight trancing while-at-work, forum-trotting, easy meals and liquid allsorts"....takes place during the 'series' and usually fades somewhere not long after the end..
otherwise, the cog-wheels of other committments, outside of R-tv, would go to 'pot'.

i think it's perfectly natural for there to be a lull in the BB-forum,..
what's? really happening anyway?
afterall, there's no current series at the moment,...so what? more can be expected.

So what's all this about then?

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...7&page=2&pp=25

To be honest, I think some BB5 housemates have actually made themselves boring due to over-exposure. Nadia, Michelle and Stuart in particular rarely seem to be out of the pages of the celeb mags (and let's face it - Stu wasn't exactly fascinating in the first place). Shell is forever in some lad mag with her kit off (and, sadly, it looks as if Vanessa may be heading that way too). Emma appears to be maintaining some sort of existence as low-grade tabloid fodder. Victor gets into fights/chucked out of clubs/arrested/mouths off on cheap as chips compilation TV. Jason whines about his real mum........................and there's only so much new that we have to say about all that in response.

Anyone that posts for effect......

None of them are fascinating because none of them have careers because none of them have any talent what so ever.

Roll on BB6.

In truth we should have learned all we wanted to know about them when they were in the house...that was the whole point of the excercise after all....

(clears throat)..well...yeh...erm!

lol @ smalltree. Care to explain yourself?

I think that was bedsit.com. There were 3 actors and 3 contestants. It was interesting to see how situations can be manipulated and the gullability (if that's a word) of the contestants involved. It was quite funny to see one of the actors - who was playing a posh guy called Rufus - just switch in and out of his Rufus-persona at will.

By the by - my other half is quite convinced that events have been staged in BB going right back to BB1 - he is quite convinced the whole Nasty-Nick saga was a set up.