What a rubbish word, either repeat it to their face like she claims or don't and be two-faced.
Anyone can be 'willing'.

She didn't tell Kimberly how she compared her to a dog
She didn't call Jale a slug to her face
Way too many with arz%%%le and c**t in them to list.

I think she defended herself quite well there. Like she did a couple weeks ago, what I don't understand is why she continues to act that way when she knows its a big problem for her.

She definitely did, her words, were I think (it was a few weeks ago) "I do think that". Though the remarks she made were flippant and more about what she thinks of what they did than she thinks of them for doing it.

Not given the endless conversations they must get through in a day with nothing else to do.

What I found was one of the nastiest things Helen did was saying that Ashleigh fancied Steven.

That is a horrible thing to say.

Helen had Steven and Kim convinced of it,funny enough just after that Kim started the sex stuff with him.

Helen said many things behind people's backs and it is all very well her saying now she would have told them to their faces.

She very rarely didn't, she certainly never gave them saccharine smiles moments later, like Ashleigh and Chris often do.


Pretty sure she made a point out shouting the second loudly within ear shot of her.

Old habits die hard.

Jale was very surprised that she had been called slugs worth .

Jale was an idiot. She still supports Helen after everything.

I don't hate Helen like most do on here but if I was in Jale's position, even if I was stupid enough to become her friend in the house once I was out and saw the full picture, would I hell.

Spot on.

It's the falseness to Chris and Ashleigh that irks me so much. None of the other housemates are so two-faced. The cheek of them both to pretend they were gutted to put Steven and Ash up for eviction, then Ashleigh in the diary room when asked if she would be upset if one of them went saying 'Nope' with a face like curdled milk.

Something else I'd like to point out is a comment I read. Steven said that Chris and Ashleigh started the divide by bitching about Helen behind her back in the Diary Room. Well, if it was behind her back, then she wouldn't have known about it, would she, so there would have been no divide!


He's almost... ALMOST rivalling BB9's Luke for bitterness.

Jale blames Ash for a lot of Helen's behaviour.

He is an idiot.

That's her default expression.

It's too easy to blame others. I agree that Ash and Winston have both encouraged Helen to act out at times and that makes them both cowards but she has her own mind. She has admitted a couple times now she knows she is aggressive but she hasn't shown any real desire to change imo.

'I would never say those things.'

'Oh I might have said them but I were joking.'

By 'joking', by the way, she means 'whispered conspiratorially to Ash' when no-one else is within earshot.

Sorry, you can moan about Ashleigh bitching if you like, but Helen's just as bad if not worse.

I have noticed this.

The smile only comes out when she thinks it might be shown on tv, ie Friday.

I agree with you.

This is Helen's when she is not getting her own way.

http://imgur.com/qSvk4CK

Even then she looks like somone just shat in her cereals.

I'm way too tired to go looking for the episode now, but Big Brother asked if she meant or stood by them, and she definitely said of at least part of it that she did.

Infinitely more attractive than Ashleigh's.

I think they are both attractive women and they both pull faces at times.

I think just calling one out on it is being silly.

I really don't get this line of thinking. If everyone went around just saying exactly what they thought about everyone 'to their face' then people would find life very socially awkward and also find themself unemployable.

I don't think many people think and say all positive things about everyone especially in a situation where you don't pick your company.

Having private discussions about those people and then filtering what you say 'to their face'... isn't that just good manners?

Personally I don't want people to say everything to my face. I think that would be rude as I'm sure I'm not everyone's cup of tea.

Lol at this. ....couldn't even get his views about Helen across correctly

Maybe hr was talking about Kimbot instead! !!!

I agree and I find it very odd that some people find it so laudable. They defend Helen with this argument all the time.