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Old 12-08-2014, 21:26
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Someone who is burying the items of a murdered girl means they are somehow involved.
Doesn't mean they are connected to the actual murder. There is a 2 and a half hour gap missing. Anything could have happened in that time. Guestofseth posted a very good theory. Jay may have had contact with Lucy in that time but it doesn't mean he murdered her, or even had anything to do with it. So I don't see how it's ridiculous that it could indeed be Jay's reflection seen in the phone.
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Old 12-08-2014, 21:27
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I'd say this rules out Jay as the murderer, as it appears this connection will be revealed later this week. I don't expect they'll put the actual murderer in the frame until the actual reveal.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out Jay was going to meet Ben and it just looked like he was following Lucy. Perhaps this is just a red herring and there's something else in the CCTV that will only make sense as a clue only in retrospect.
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Old 12-08-2014, 21:28
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Thanks for that this just shows Jay is the killer so DTC shouldnt bother making us wait til February as we know who killed Lucy. But why would Jay kill her?
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Old 12-08-2014, 21:31
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Thanks for that this just shows Jay is the killer so DTC shouldnt bother making us wait til February as we know who killed Lucy. But why would Jay kill her?
Have you never heard of a red herring?

If the producers are putting somebody in the frame this early, the only thing that should be taken from that is that its 99% certain it's not actually them.
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Old 12-08-2014, 21:31
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Aleks hired Jay to kill her for money.
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Old 12-08-2014, 21:35
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Has nobody noticed her mascara is all messed up? Looks like she's been crying.
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Old 12-08-2014, 21:35
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Thanks for that this just shows Jay is the killer so DTC shouldnt bother making us wait til February as we know who killed Lucy. But why would Jay kill her?
Bit premature
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Old 12-08-2014, 21:37
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Has nobody noticed her mascara is all messed up? Looks like she's been crying.
She got on the bus around five minutes after leaving her house, so she was probably crying over the fight with Ian, and the Peter thing. Given that this took place before her meeting Jake, Jay couldn't have killed her, not that he would have reason to.
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Old 12-08-2014, 21:39
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Its obviously Jay and you know what I think Jamie Borthwick could act out this killer storyline really well he did amazing in the Heather storyline and I think if he got this it would be the making of him
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Old 12-08-2014, 21:42
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Its obviously Jay and you know what I think Jamie Borthwick could act out this killer storyline really well he did amazing in the Heather storyline and I think if he got this it would be the making of him
You cracked it - 6 months early. Congratulations.
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Old 12-08-2014, 21:52
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I don't think Jay killed her - the guilt he felt for helping to cover up the murder of Heather was too much for him. Perhaps Ben/Jay may have had words with Lucy, but I don't think either of them had anything to do with her murder.
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Old 12-08-2014, 21:54
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Cindy did it and Jay is covering it up. They've been having it off ever since the epic dramatic 'teens road trip' week last year. He's the father of her child.

Or not
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Old 12-08-2014, 23:24
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I would be very surprised if either Jay or Ben are the killer. Not only would it be a predictable outcome (it's always Ben) but the writers would have given the game away already with that CCTV footage of Jay.

The killer being Ben would be neither heartbreaking or sad. He has killed before and gone to prison. Nothing new there. It would be a huge anticlimax. Ben is a red herring. Jay could be involved in some small way but I also don't think he's the killer as he's already been involved in a similar "accidental murder" storyline with Ben and Heather.

All that will come from the CCTV footage is Phil finding out Jay has been seeing Ben in my opinion.
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Old 12-08-2014, 23:27
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Jake stone ruled out
Now jay Mitchell ruled out

Whoever becomes a suspect now will be ruled out.
It will be revealed around Xmas/feb 2015

So jay is the next link to who killed Lucy. Maybe he saw something that night... Or is covering up...

Something tells me she was looking to see if it was that someone she recognises is. She would of said something to jay. I think Abi is linked to this cos of Lucy sleeping with her dad.

Liking this storyline
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Old 12-08-2014, 23:29
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This is definitely just a plot device to bring Ben back into the series, whilst creating some tension and drama for the Lucy storyline.
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Old 12-08-2014, 23:31
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I doubt very much that they'd be revealing the killer months away from the reveal!

It might well be Jay on the bus but him and Lucy might have been lost in their own thoughts (she'd just argued with her dad and was troubled / he was perhaps meeting Ben behind Phil's back so was troubled) so didn't even notice each other on the bus. Or they could have just nodded and said hello and not spoken much more as they both had a lot on their minds.

I'd be surprised if it turns out to be anything more than a red herring TBH.




Not impossible that he's the killer though (says she hedging her bets )
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Old 12-08-2014, 23:35
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Why would they make Ben a killer again?

It doesn't make scenes. They've only just recast the character, not to get rid again.

I think phil will find out about jay being on that bus the night Lucy died and Jay was meeting Ben only for jay to bring Ben into Phil's wedding to Sharon
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Old 12-08-2014, 23:38
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Thanks for that this just shows Jay is the killer so DTC shouldnt bother making us wait til February as we know who killed Lucy. But why would Jay kill her?
I'm fairly sure you've said it's obvious that Abi/Jake/Lee and Billy were all the killer.
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Old 12-08-2014, 23:49
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Jay > Ben.

Some also believe they saw Jay's reflection on Lucy's mobile phone that was being buried a few weeks ago.

http://uk.beamly.com/tv/shows/easten...e-af81f3ac381e
That doesn't look like Jay, it looks more like Max to me...

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Old 12-08-2014, 23:52
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Thanks for that this just shows Jay is the killer so DTC shouldnt bother making us wait til February as we know who killed Lucy. But why would Jay kill her?
That doesn't show anything. May be Jay was going to meet up with Ben unaware that Lucy was on the bus? It must have been a coincidence that both Jay and Lucy were getting off at the same stop.
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Old 12-08-2014, 23:55
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That is quite clearly Jay on the Bus. But don't forget they want us to know this.

They will know that people will automatically think of Jay and Ben somehow killing Lucy - that's our biggest clue that neither Jay or Ben had anything to do with Lucys murder.
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Old 13-08-2014, 00:07
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Finally a story for Jay! I'm absolutely delighted about this!
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Old 13-08-2014, 00:11
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It's Jay but I think it'll be more to do with Ben's return that Lucy's death...
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Old 13-08-2014, 00:22
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It makes sense. NOT ONE character has shown any hint they may have killed her. So what if the killer wasn't amongst them at all but was always planned to come in mid story..... Good cover.
The killer is an established character already on the square according to the first promo.
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Old 13-08-2014, 00:41
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I think this is related to Ben's return. Jay was on the same bus. Lucy and Jay may have talked. Jay was not following Lucy, but was on his way to meet with Ben.
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