Best camera phone?

Trollheart · 12-08-2014, 22:43

For a long time I used --- still use --- my HTC Wildfore, as it has quite simply the best camera I've ever used on a phone, except maybe the SE K800i. Now it's damaged and I'm looking for a replacement. Any ideas? Note: I do NOT need a phone in the usual sense: I have a Galaxy S4 so this does not need to connect to anything, it would simply be used as a camera. However I would like to be able to use an intervalometer/app with it (something to allow me take a set number of photos at once without having to keep pressing the shutter.

This is the kind of thing I can get with the HTC, so it would need to be up to this standard or better...
http://www.trollheart.com/ritchie.jpg

Thanks for any suggestions.

jabbamk1 · 12-08-2014, 22:48

This may be a stupid question but why not just use the Galaxy S4. You'll be able to use the same app you use on the HTC

johnathome · 12-08-2014, 23:09

Or why not just get a dedicated digital camera?

Nick_Challis · 12-08-2014, 23:11

Surely the Lumia 1020 is the phone for you?

Trollheart · 13-08-2014, 00:49

In order: the Galaxy S4 has an ok camera but it's nowhere near as good as the HTC Wildfire's; I do have a DSLR but it's pretty complicated and I'm no camera buff: I probably have settings set wrong but the pix are not coming out that great; Nokia Lumia 1020? Hmm. But that's Windows isn't it? I haven't used a Windows phone yet. Also, I've heard their cameras don't have flashes?

Thanks for taking the time to reply and suggest, everyone.

iGeek2014 · 13-08-2014, 06:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart

In order: the Galaxy S4 has an ok camera but it's nowhere near as good as the HTC Wildfire's; I do have a DSLR but it's pretty complicated and I'm no camera buff: I probably have settings set wrong but the pix are not coming out that great; Nokia Lumia 1020? Hmm. But that's Windows isn't it? I haven't used a Windows phone yet. Also, I've heard their cameras don't have flashes?

Thanks for taking the time to reply and suggest, everyone.

The Lumia 1020 has a Xenon flash.

alan1302 · 13-08-2014, 21:27

If you are not using it as a phone why not just get a small compact camera - generally speaking even a cheap one will have better pictures than most phones.

DeelyBopper · 13-08-2014, 22:24

Wow you must be bored. Try a Wildfore S.

TheBigM · 14-08-2014, 07:12

Wildfire having a better camera than a SGS4? Hahahahaha

Lidtop2013 · 14-08-2014, 07:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBigM

Wildfire having a better camera than a SGS4? Hahahahaha

Lol that's what I thought, the SGS4 is a newer phone with better specs all round, including camera

paulbrock · 14-08-2014, 08:55

if you want a camera with connectivity and apps, how about the Samsung Galaxy camera
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/m...galaxy-camera/

Trollheart · 14-08-2014, 11:37

Read my original post: I already have the Galaxy S4 and the camera's ok but nowhere near as good as the HTC.

Anika Hanson · 14-08-2014, 11:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Read my original post: I already have the Galaxy S4 and the camera's ok but nowhere near as good as the HTC.

Well if you rate the wildfires camera that highly then you are probably better off staying with it. To be fair the S4 had one of the best cameras (on a phone) from 2013 so if the wildfire is miles better you won't like any of the 2014 flagship cameras as they also won't be as good as your wildfire.

Some sample pictures from the S4.

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...5_151748_1.jpg

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...802_182327.jpg

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...720_144228.jpg

alan1302 · 14-08-2014, 12:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anika Hanson

Well if you rate the wildfires camera that highly then you are probably better off staying with it. To be fair the S4 had one of the best cameras (on a phone) from 2013 so if the wildfire is miles better you won't like any of the 2014 flagship cameras as they also won't be as good as your wildfire.

Some sample pictures from the S4.

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...5_151748_1.jpg

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...802_182327.jpg

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...720_144228.jpg

Not as good as i would have expected those photos - a bit soft without sharp focus.

finbaar · 14-08-2014, 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anika Hanson

Well if you rate the wildfires camera that highly then you are probably better off staying with it. To be fair the S4 had one of the best cameras (on a phone) from 2013 so if the wildfire is miles better you won't like any of the 2014 flagship cameras as they also won't be as good as your wildfire.

Some sample pictures from the S4.

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...5_151748_1.jpg

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...802_182327.jpg

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...720_144228.jpg

You need the read what the OP wants. Compare the OPs photo of the cat to the ones you posted. As they said there is need something that can replicate the quality of photos that the Wildfire can produce.

So can anyone recommend an app for the GS4 that makes it take out of focus, noisy photos that have muted colours? Maybe there is an Instagram filter for that already (probably called "Wildfire").

paulbrock · 14-08-2014, 13:06

the answer is clear then, I believe this will meet your needs OP

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321197125160

alan1302 · 14-08-2014, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by finbaar

You need the read what the OP wants. Compare the OPs photo of the cat to the ones you posted. As they said there is need something that can replicate the quality of photos that the Wildfire can produce.

So can anyone recommend an app for the GS4 that makes it take out of focus, noisy photos that have muted colours? Maybe there is an Instagram filter for that already (probably called "Wildfire").

I hadn't looked at the ops photo...he thinks that's a good picture?

GeordiePaul · 14-08-2014, 21:14

What a bizarre thread. The wildfire was very much a budget phone at launch, quite a few years ago. By definition, the camera will be way behind virtually all but the very worst phones available today. I second the notion of finding some software to make your pictures worse.

If you really want a good camera, it will depend on your budget but I doubt a Sony z2, lumia 930 / 1030 or an iPhone 5S would disappoint.

Lidtop2013 · 14-08-2014, 22:52

Iphone 5S, while not being new, is still one of the best if not THE best camera on a phone, video is amazing too. You really can't tell your watching footage shot by a phone when watching it back on a computer screen

alan1302 · 14-08-2014, 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lidtop2013

Iphone 5S, while not being new, is still one of the best if not THE best camera on a phone, video is amazing too. You really can't tell your watching footage shot by a phone when watching it back on a computer screen

Some of the Nokia Lumia phones have the best cameras on a phone.

Stiggles · 15-08-2014, 00:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lidtop2013

Iphone 5S, while not being new, is still one of the best if not THE best camera on a phone, video is amazing too. You really can't tell your watching footage shot by a phone when watching it back on a computer screen

It's not THE best camera on a phone at all. As alan has said, some of the nokias are far better.

Don't get me wrong, the 5S camera is rather good, but you can still tell a mile away its shot with a phone.

Now, this thread is surely a joke though isn't it? The wildfire camera was and still is absolutely crap!

cuttysark · 15-08-2014, 08:11

Don't know about camera phones but you have some right pervy pics on your website.

clonmult · 15-08-2014, 08:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lidtop2013

Iphone 5S, while not being new, is still one of the best if not THE best camera on a phone, video is amazing too. You really can't tell your watching footage shot by a phone when watching it back on a computer screen

hahahahahahahahahaha, really?

The best mobile phone camera by a fair margin is the Nokia 808. Everything else is kinda poor in comparison, including the Lumia 1020 (which to be honest is a bit pants as a camera).

grumpyoldbat · 15-08-2014, 10:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart

In order: the Galaxy S4 has an ok camera but it's nowhere near as good as the HTC Wildfire's; I do have a DSLR but it's pretty complicated and I'm no camera buff: I probably have settings set wrong but the pix are not coming out that great; Nokia Lumia 1020? Hmm. But that's Windows isn't it? I haven't used a Windows phone yet. Also, I've heard their cameras don't have flashes?

Thanks for taking the time to reply and suggest, everyone.

I think this is the key here. The OP thinks his HTC Wildfire takes great photos. He things the S4 doesn't, but by his own admission he owns a DLSR and doesn't understand how to use it.

In my opinion (a person who does know how their DSLR works), neither the Wildfire nor the S4 photos in this thread are particularly stellar. They're camera phone pics. The majority of them are mediocre at best. If you want good photos, buy a dedicated camera. The quality of photos from phones with tiny apertures and mini sensors is never going to be as good as an actual camera. Even relatively cheap compact cameras will do a better job!

johnathome · 15-08-2014, 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuttysark

Don't know about camera phones but you have some right pervy pics on your website.

Ha ha, i had to look, wonder what his fetish is?

He'll have 'red cheeks' after posting that!

12-08-2014, 22:43	#1
Trollheart Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,923	Best camera phone? For a long time I used --- still use --- my HTC Wildfore, as it has quite simply the best camera I've ever used on a phone, except maybe the SE K800i. Now it's damaged and I'm looking for a replacement. Any ideas? Note: I do NOT need a phone in the usual sense: I have a Galaxy S4 so this does not need to connect to anything, it would simply be used as a camera. However I would like to be able to use an intervalometer/app with it (something to allow me take a set number of photos at once without having to keep pressing the shutter. This is the kind of thing I can get with the HTC, so it would need to be up to this standard or better... http://www.trollheart.com/ritchie.jpg Thanks for any suggestions.

12-08-2014, 22:48	#2
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	This may be a stupid question but why not just use the Galaxy S4. You'll be able to use the same app you use on the HTC

12-08-2014, 23:09	#3
johnathome Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Pompey Posts: 1,068	Or why not just get a dedicated digital camera?

12-08-2014, 23:11	#4
Nick_Challis Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 546	Surely the Lumia 1020 is the phone for you?

13-08-2014, 00:49	#5
Trollheart Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,923	In order: the Galaxy S4 has an ok camera but it's nowhere near as good as the HTC Wildfire's; I do have a DSLR but it's pretty complicated and I'm no camera buff: I probably have settings set wrong but the pix are not coming out that great; Nokia Lumia 1020? Hmm. But that's Windows isn't it? I haven't used a Windows phone yet. Also, I've heard their cameras don't have flashes? Thanks for taking the time to reply and suggest, everyone.

13-08-2014, 06:22	#6
iGeek2014 Guest Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 572	Quote: Originally Posted by Trollheart In order: the Galaxy S4 has an ok camera but it's nowhere near as good as the HTC Wildfire's; I do have a DSLR but it's pretty complicated and I'm no camera buff: I probably have settings set wrong but the pix are not coming out that great; Nokia Lumia 1020? Hmm. But that's Windows isn't it? I haven't used a Windows phone yet. Also, I've heard their cameras don't have flashes? Thanks for taking the time to reply and suggest, everyone. The Lumia 1020 has a Xenon flash.

13-08-2014, 21:27	#7
alan1302 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Yorks Posts: 6,180	If you are not using it as a phone why not just get a small compact camera - generally speaking even a cheap one will have better pictures than most phones.

13-08-2014, 22:24	#8
DeelyBopper Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,292	Wow you must be bored. Try a Wildfore S.

14-08-2014, 07:12	#9
TheBigM Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: moon Posts: 12,983	Wildfire having a better camera than a SGS4? Hahahahaha

14-08-2014, 07:15	#10
Lidtop2013 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: West Midlands Posts: 2,450	Quote: Originally Posted by TheBigM Wildfire having a better camera than a SGS4? Hahahahaha Lol that's what I thought, the SGS4 is a newer phone with better specs all round, including camera

14-08-2014, 08:55	#11
paulbrock Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wapping, London Posts: 16,222	if you want a camera with connectivity and apps, how about the Samsung Galaxy camera http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/m...galaxy-camera/

14-08-2014, 11:37	#12
Trollheart Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,923	Read my original post: I already have the Galaxy S4 and the camera's ok but nowhere near as good as the HTC.

14-08-2014, 11:44	#13
Anika Hanson Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: UK Posts: 14,219	Quote: Originally Posted by Trollheart Read my original post: I already have the Galaxy S4 and the camera's ok but nowhere near as good as the HTC. Well if you rate the wildfires camera that highly then you are probably better off staying with it. To be fair the S4 had one of the best cameras (on a phone) from 2013 so if the wildfire is miles better you won't like any of the 2014 flagship cameras as they also won't be as good as your wildfire. Some sample pictures from the S4. http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...5_151748_1.jpg http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...802_182327.jpg http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...720_144228.jpg

14-08-2014, 12:53	#14
alan1302 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Yorks Posts: 6,180	Quote: Originally Posted by Anika Hanson Well if you rate the wildfires camera that highly then you are probably better off staying with it. To be fair the S4 had one of the best cameras (on a phone) from 2013 so if the wildfire is miles better you won't like any of the 2014 flagship cameras as they also won't be as good as your wildfire. Some sample pictures from the S4. http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...5_151748_1.jpg http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...802_182327.jpg http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...720_144228.jpg Not as good as i would have expected those photos - a bit soft without sharp focus.

14-08-2014, 13:02	#15
finbaar Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,921	Quote: Originally Posted by Anika Hanson Well if you rate the wildfires camera that highly then you are probably better off staying with it. To be fair the S4 had one of the best cameras (on a phone) from 2013 so if the wildfire is miles better you won't like any of the 2014 flagship cameras as they also won't be as good as your wildfire. Some sample pictures from the S4. http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...5_151748_1.jpg http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...802_182327.jpg http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...720_144228.jpg You need the read what the OP wants. Compare the OPs photo of the cat to the ones you posted. As they said there is need something that can replicate the quality of photos that the Wildfire can produce. So can anyone recommend an app for the GS4 that makes it take out of focus, noisy photos that have muted colours? Maybe there is an Instagram filter for that already (probably called "Wildfire").

14-08-2014, 13:06	#16
paulbrock Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wapping, London Posts: 16,222	the answer is clear then, I believe this will meet your needs OP http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321197125160

14-08-2014, 20:52	#17
alan1302 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Yorks Posts: 6,180	Quote: Originally Posted by finbaar You need the read what the OP wants. Compare the OPs photo of the cat to the ones you posted. As they said there is need something that can replicate the quality of photos that the Wildfire can produce. So can anyone recommend an app for the GS4 that makes it take out of focus, noisy photos that have muted colours? Maybe there is an Instagram filter for that already (probably called "Wildfire"). I hadn't looked at the ops photo...he thinks that's a good picture?

14-08-2014, 21:14	#18
GeordiePaul Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,308	What a bizarre thread. The wildfire was very much a budget phone at launch, quite a few years ago. By definition, the camera will be way behind virtually all but the very worst phones available today. I second the notion of finding some software to make your pictures worse. If you really want a good camera, it will depend on your budget but I doubt a Sony z2, lumia 930 / 1030 or an iPhone 5S would disappoint.

14-08-2014, 22:52	#19
Lidtop2013 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: West Midlands Posts: 2,450	Iphone 5S, while not being new, is still one of the best if not THE best camera on a phone, video is amazing too. You really can't tell your watching footage shot by a phone when watching it back on a computer screen

14-08-2014, 23:56	#20
alan1302 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Yorks Posts: 6,180	Quote: Originally Posted by Lidtop2013 Iphone 5S, while not being new, is still one of the best if not THE best camera on a phone, video is amazing too. You really can't tell your watching footage shot by a phone when watching it back on a computer screen Some of the Nokia Lumia phones have the best cameras on a phone.

15-08-2014, 00:06	#21
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by Lidtop2013 Iphone 5S, while not being new, is still one of the best if not THE best camera on a phone, video is amazing too. You really can't tell your watching footage shot by a phone when watching it back on a computer screen It's not THE best camera on a phone at all. As alan has said, some of the nokias are far better. Don't get me wrong, the 5S camera is rather good, but you can still tell a mile away its shot with a phone. Now, this thread is surely a joke though isn't it? The wildfire camera was and still is absolutely crap!

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15-08-2014, 08:11	#22
cuttysark Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 993	Don't know about camera phones but you have some right pervy pics on your website.

15-08-2014, 08:50	#23
clonmult Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,291	Quote: Originally Posted by Lidtop2013 Iphone 5S, while not being new, is still one of the best if not THE best camera on a phone, video is amazing too. You really can't tell your watching footage shot by a phone when watching it back on a computer screen hahahahahahahahahaha, really? The best mobile phone camera by a fair margin is the Nokia 808. Everything else is kinda poor in comparison, including the Lumia 1020 (which to be honest is a bit pants as a camera).

15-08-2014, 10:40	#24
grumpyoldbat Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,636	Quote: Originally Posted by Trollheart In order: the Galaxy S4 has an ok camera but it's nowhere near as good as the HTC Wildfire's; I do have a DSLR but it's pretty complicated and I'm no camera buff: I probably have settings set wrong but the pix are not coming out that great; Nokia Lumia 1020? Hmm. But that's Windows isn't it? I haven't used a Windows phone yet. Also, I've heard their cameras don't have flashes? Thanks for taking the time to reply and suggest, everyone. I think this is the key here. The OP thinks his HTC Wildfire takes great photos. He things the S4 doesn't, but by his own admission he owns a DLSR and doesn't understand how to use it. In my opinion (a person who does know how their DSLR works), neither the Wildfire nor the S4 photos in this thread are particularly stellar. They're camera phone pics. The majority of them are mediocre at best. If you want good photos, buy a dedicated camera. The quality of photos from phones with tiny apertures and mini sensors is never going to be as good as an actual camera. Even relatively cheap compact cameras will do a better job!

15-08-2014, 19:18	#25
johnathome Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Pompey Posts: 1,068	Quote: Originally Posted by cuttysark Don't know about camera phones but you have some right pervy pics on your website. Ha ha, i had to look, wonder what his fetish is? He'll have 'red cheeks' after posting that!