Samsung Galaxy Alpha

kidspud · 16-08-2014, 21:31

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The best they can do? Looks like every other Galaxy phone only not plastic. 720p only, is this supposed to be a premium phone or not.

Good question. Samsung seem to go out of their way to make their device lineup as confusing as possible.

They sacked the head of design after the S5, it seems the new one isn't doing much better.

klendathu · 16-08-2014, 23:17

How long until the Galaxy Alpha Premium version is available

AxeVictim · 17-08-2014, 02:13

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Originally Posted by klendathu

How long until the Galaxy Alpha Premium version is available

Is that the one with the metal back

swordman · 17-08-2014, 03:12

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Originally Posted by kidspud

Good question. Samsung seem to go out of their way to make their device lineup as confusing as possible.

They sacked the head of design after the S5, it seems the new one isn't doing much better.

You seem pretty clear when you keep choosing Samsung for yourself, strange you now claim it's confusing, that in itself is confusing.

kidspud · 17-08-2014, 05:36

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Originally Posted by swordman

You seem pretty clear when you keep choosing Samsung for yourself, strange you now claim it's confusing, that in itself is confusing.

Then (unsurprisingly) you have a very short memory. I asked many questions on here regarding the different models and took a while deciding which one to go for on both occasions.

And when you say, 'keep choosing them', I've only had (and still have) two of their cheaper phones.

You seem very sensitive about Samsung, but it is difficult to know your views on the alpha because as usual, you haven't expressed any view. What's up, has no one written a headline for you yet?

calico_pie · 17-08-2014, 10:20

Samsung’s Metal-Edged Galaxy Alpha Is Its Most iPhone-A-Like Handset Ever!!!

How about we have a discussion whereby some people make perfectly reasonable, legitimate arguments about why that isn't the case.

And one person just repeats the headline in post after post, and questions why people always insist they are right, thinks everyone else is wrong, in a display of breathtaking arrogance, despite the fact that the story clearly states:

Samsung’s Metal-Edged Galaxy Alpha Is Its Most iPhone-A-Like Handset Ever!!!!1!!!

swordman · 17-08-2014, 13:27

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Originally Posted by kidspud

Then (unsurprisingly) you have a very short memory. I asked many questions on here regarding the different models and took a while deciding which one to go for on both occasions.

And when you say, 'keep choosing them', I've only had (and still have) two of their cheaper phones.

You seem very sensitive about Samsung, but it is difficult to know your views on the alpha because as usual, you haven't expressed any view. What's up, has no one written a headline for you yet?

Nope far from it don't even own one unlike you

- Yet your posting (extensive posting on the subject) knowledge of Samsung extends to what phones receive what upgrade, what likely spec and version new handsets will be, what their business models are, sales strategy, their profit returns, which models to choose for best bang for buck etc.

However you would now have us believe that a few model names are confusing you, I smell something and it is not my lunch cooking.

IvanIV · 17-08-2014, 13:40

Look at that, another thread turning to shit before my eyes.

Stiggles · 17-08-2014, 13:53

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

Samsung’s Metal-Edged Galaxy Alpha Is Its Most iPhone-A-Like Handset Ever!!!

How about we have a discussion whereby some people make perfectly reasonable, legitimate arguments about why that isn't the case.

And one person just repeats the headline in post after post, and questions why people always insist they are right, thinks everyone else is wrong, in a display of breathtaking arrogance, despite the fact that the story clearly states:

Samsung’s Metal-Edged Galaxy Alpha Is Its Most iPhone-A-Like Handset Ever!!!!1!!!

It still looks identical to the S2...

MrSuper · 17-08-2014, 17:07

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

Samsung’s Metal-Edged Galaxy Alpha Is Its Most iPhone-A-Like Handset Ever!!!

How about we have a discussion whereby some people make perfectly reasonable, legitimate arguments about why that isn't the case.

And one person just repeats the headline in post after post, and questions why people always insist they are right, thinks everyone else is wrong, in a display of breathtaking arrogance, despite the fact that the story clearly states:

Samsung’s Metal-Edged Galaxy Alpha Is Its Most iPhone-A-Like Handset Ever!!!!1!!!

For f*cks sake!

Why does every brand new thread about a smartphone always have the same usual suspects coming in and taking over with their bullshit?!

Why am i not surprised you went and found an article mentioning the iPhone and the Alpha and then dragged it in here so you could hijack the thread.

This is for the Samsung Galaxy Alpha so why would anyone want to talk about and discuss the iPhone?? I'm absolutely f*cking sick of this shit!

It happens all the time.

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Originally Posted by IvanIV

Look at that, another thread turning to shit before my eyes.

I know. Pathetic isn't it!

finbaar · 18-08-2014, 07:51

The Galaxy Alpha looks extremely similar to the Galaxy S2. And it looks a bit like an iPhone 5/5S. (Get them in hand though and you can bet the Alpha feels like neither of them).

Apple iPhone 5 announced 09-2012
Samsung Galaxy Alpha announced 08-2014
Samsung Galaxy S2 announced 02-2011

Now my first degree was in chemistry and my masters was in computer science. I have never studied horology so I don’t feel qualified to answer the following question:
“Of the three phones listed above which was announced first?”

Once one of the forum experts can answer that for us we will be able to decide who came up with the idea of an oblong with slightly rounded corners. And from that we will be able to infer who is copying whom.

It is a shame that all this crap is detracting from discussing the Alpha. The phone is a radical departure for Samsung, if only for moving away from the mantra of more is better. Look at the battery size, 1860 mAh, they must be super confident in the battery efficiency of that octocore chip. They must have nailed the LTE modem as well as we haven’t seen that many LTE Samsungs with out Qualcomm SoCs.

IvanIV · 18-08-2014, 08:23

Samsung got where they are now by leading uncompromising specs wars, telling us they have for us the best, strongest, fastest, etc. I wonder how this new direction will work for them.

calico_pie · 18-08-2014, 08:34

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Originally Posted by MrSuper

For f*cks sake!

Why does every brand new thread about a smartphone always have the same usual suspects coming in and taking over with their bullshit?!

Why am i not surprised you went and found an article mentioning the iPhone and the Alpha and then dragged it in here so you could hijack the thread.

This is for the Samsung Galaxy Alpha so why would anyone want to talk about and discuss the iPhone?? I'm absolutely f*cking sick of this shit!

It happens all the time.

I know. Pathetic isn't it!

I don't know why you're surprised, as I think you'd struggle to find many threads about phones other than the iPhone where I've posted anything at all.

My point here wasn't that the Alpha looked like the iPhone to hijack anything.

My point was about how stupid it is to rely on a headline from an article, and a headline only, to make a point. And how pointless any discussion is when people make perfectly good arguments to the contrary, but someone just repeatedly bangs on about the headline.

Which is what Kidspud was talking about in his reply to swordman before my post.

klendathu · 18-08-2014, 11:49

Trouble in the playground again

tut

finbaar · 18-08-2014, 12:27

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

I don't know why you're surprised, as I think you'd struggle to find many threads about phones other than the iPhone where I've posted anything at all.

My point here wasn't that the Alpha looked like the iPhone to hijack anything.

My point was about how stupid it is to rely on a headline from an article, and a headline only, to make a point. And how pointless any discussion is when people make perfectly good arguments to the contrary, but someone just repeatedly bangs on about the headline.

Which is what Kidspud was talking about in his reply to swordman before my post.

Oh you sound like a knowledgeable chap. Could you tell me which came first – December 2012 or September 2012?

xxTinkerbellexx · 18-08-2014, 12:43

Decided to keep my S5. Will wait for the next iteration of the Alpha...

alanwarwic · 18-08-2014, 13:55

With that metal chassis did Samsung ever have Bendgate with the Galaxy series?

Heres pic of bents phones, the cause for some, being that the user put them in their pocket !

http://images.google.com/images?q=Samsung+bendgate
http://images.google.com/images?q=iphone+bendgate

Stiggles · 18-08-2014, 14:06

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

I don't know why you're surprised, as I think you'd struggle to find many threads about phones other than the iPhone where I've posted anything at all.

My point here wasn't that the Alpha looked like the iPhone to hijack anything.

My point was about how stupid it is to rely on a headline from an article, and a headline only, to make a point. And how pointless any discussion is when people make perfectly good arguments to the contrary, but someone just repeatedly bangs on about the headline.

Which is what Kidspud was talking about in his reply to swordman before my post.

Well this one for a start. You brought apple into this thread needlessly.

Sometimes I think younxant help yourself but constantly yap about apple...

ACU · 18-08-2014, 14:13

Always makes me laugh, at how these threads deterioate into a them Vs us thread. I havent posted in these types of thread for ages. Thought I would try again today, and it seems things havent changed much over the last couple of months.

How about we stick to just discussing the Samsung Alpha.

alanwarwic · 18-08-2014, 14:19

Well, I'm still wondering if that metal chassis is needed.

The reality is that plastic design(polycarbonate if you want to be posh) is a major positive.
A 720p screen is fine, but does that mean it a beast of a mid range phone?

Jamie_Bradley · 18-08-2014, 14:39

I'm interested to see how it sells, Samsung sales are falling through the floor across the globe. So let's see if this phone outsells the iPhone 6. Could this be the first Samsung phone to out sell an iPhone? But then with Apples sales seeing big growth it will have to perform very well to beat the iPhone 6.

IvanIV · 18-08-2014, 14:49

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Well, I'm still wondering if that metal chassis is needed.

The reality is that plastic design(polycarbonate if you want to be posh) is a major positive.
A 720p screen is fine, but does that mean it a beast of a mid range phone?

They were told too many times that Samsung plastic looks cheap, which I agree with, especially the white one. This is supposed to be something premium looking. Personally I have nothing against plastic, if the surface finish is nice.

calico_pie · 18-08-2014, 15:25

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

Well this one for a start. You brought apple into this thread needlessly.

Sometimes I think younxant help yourself but constantly yap about apple...

Happening to mention it here is hardly evidence of doing that on a regular basis. Both you and I have contributed on plenty of Apple related threads where other stuff has cropped up.

Not to mention the context here, which wasn't really Apple, or the iPhone, but rather how pointless it is to rely on solely on a headline to make an argument.

Looks like people's sense of irony has deserted them here.

Stiggles · 18-08-2014, 23:33

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

Happening to mention it here is hardly evidence of doing that on a regular basis. Both you and I have contributed on plenty of Apple related threads where other stuff has cropped up.

Not to mention the context here, which wasn't really Apple, or the iPhone, but rather how pointless it is to rely on solely on a headline to make an argument.

Looks like people's sense of irony has deserted them here.

No, you didn't just happen to mention it. You deliberately made a post designed to bait and cause an issue.

I have indeed contributed to apple etc threads, but what I have never done is went out my way on an apple thread, is bring android into it to cause a problem. You on the other hand have done that several times.

Stiggles · 18-08-2014, 23:36

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Originally Posted by IvanIV

They were told too many times that Samsung plastic looks cheap, which I agree with, especially the white one. This is supposed to be something premium looking. Personally I have nothing against plastic, if the surface finish is nice.

My dad last week ditched his iPhone and got a galaxy S5 in white. I think it looks lovely as does he.

His wife upgraded her S3 to the S5 as well but it was the gold one. Its very tacky looking but I think that for any gold phone.

16-08-2014, 21:31	#51
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by IvanIV The best they can do? Looks like every other Galaxy phone only not plastic. 720p only, is this supposed to be a premium phone or not. Good question. Samsung seem to go out of their way to make their device lineup as confusing as possible. They sacked the head of design after the S5, it seems the new one isn't doing much better.

16-08-2014, 23:17	#52
klendathu Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 10,726	How long until the Galaxy Alpha Premium version is available

17-08-2014, 02:13	#53
AxeVictim Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,644	Quote: Originally Posted by klendathu How long until the Galaxy Alpha Premium version is available Is that the one with the metal back

17-08-2014, 03:12	#54
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud Good question. Samsung seem to go out of their way to make their device lineup as confusing as possible. They sacked the head of design after the S5, it seems the new one isn't doing much better. You seem pretty clear when you keep choosing Samsung for yourself, strange you now claim it's confusing, that in itself is confusing.

17-08-2014, 05:36	#55
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman You seem pretty clear when you keep choosing Samsung for yourself, strange you now claim it's confusing, that in itself is confusing. Then (unsurprisingly) you have a very short memory. I asked many questions on here regarding the different models and took a while deciding which one to go for on both occasions. And when you say, 'keep choosing them', I've only had (and still have) two of their cheaper phones. You seem very sensitive about Samsung, but it is difficult to know your views on the alpha because as usual, you haven't expressed any view. What's up, has no one written a headline for you yet?

17-08-2014, 10:20	#56
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Samsung’s Metal-Edged Galaxy Alpha Is Its Most iPhone-A-Like Handset Ever!!! How about we have a discussion whereby some people make perfectly reasonable, legitimate arguments about why that isn't the case. And one person just repeats the headline in post after post, and questions why people always insist they are right, thinks everyone else is wrong, in a display of breathtaking arrogance, despite the fact that the story clearly states: Samsung’s Metal-Edged Galaxy Alpha Is Its Most iPhone-A-Like Handset Ever!!!!1!!!

17-08-2014, 13:27	#57
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud Then (unsurprisingly) you have a very short memory. I asked many questions on here regarding the different models and took a while deciding which one to go for on both occasions. And when you say, 'keep choosing them', I've only had (and still have) two of their cheaper phones. You seem very sensitive about Samsung, but it is difficult to know your views on the alpha because as usual, you haven't expressed any view. What's up, has no one written a headline for you yet? Nope far from it don't even own one unlike you - Yet your posting (extensive posting on the subject) knowledge of Samsung extends to what phones receive what upgrade, what likely spec and version new handsets will be, what their business models are, sales strategy, their profit returns, which models to choose for best bang for buck etc. However you would now have us believe that a few model names are confusing you, I smell something and it is not my lunch cooking.

17-08-2014, 13:40	#58
IvanIV Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 25,199	Look at that, another thread turning to shit before my eyes.

17-08-2014, 13:53	#59
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie Samsung’s Metal-Edged Galaxy Alpha Is Its Most iPhone-A-Like Handset Ever!!! How about we have a discussion whereby some people make perfectly reasonable, legitimate arguments about why that isn't the case. And one person just repeats the headline in post after post, and questions why people always insist they are right, thinks everyone else is wrong, in a display of breathtaking arrogance, despite the fact that the story clearly states: Samsung’s Metal-Edged Galaxy Alpha Is Its Most iPhone-A-Like Handset Ever!!!!1!!! It still looks identical to the S2...

17-08-2014, 17:07	#60
MrSuper Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 9,323	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie Samsung’s Metal-Edged Galaxy Alpha Is Its Most iPhone-A-Like Handset Ever!!! How about we have a discussion whereby some people make perfectly reasonable, legitimate arguments about why that isn't the case. And one person just repeats the headline in post after post, and questions why people always insist they are right, thinks everyone else is wrong, in a display of breathtaking arrogance, despite the fact that the story clearly states: Samsung’s Metal-Edged Galaxy Alpha Is Its Most iPhone-A-Like Handset Ever!!!!1!!! For fcks sake! Why does every brand new thread about a smartphone always have the same usual suspects coming in and taking over with their bullshit?! Why am i not surprised you went and found an article mentioning the iPhone and the Alpha and then dragged it in here so you could hijack the thread. This is for the Samsung Galaxy Alpha so why would anyone want to talk about and discuss the iPhone?? I'm absolutely fcking sick of this shit! It happens all the time. Quote: Originally Posted by IvanIV Look at that, another thread turning to shit before my eyes. I know. Pathetic isn't it!

18-08-2014, 07:51	#61
finbaar Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,921	The Galaxy Alpha looks extremely similar to the Galaxy S2. And it looks a bit like an iPhone 5/5S. (Get them in hand though and you can bet the Alpha feels like neither of them). Apple iPhone 5 announced 09-2012 Samsung Galaxy Alpha announced 08-2014 Samsung Galaxy S2 announced 02-2011 Now my first degree was in chemistry and my masters was in computer science. I have never studied horology so I don’t feel qualified to answer the following question: “Of the three phones listed above which was announced first?” Once one of the forum experts can answer that for us we will be able to decide who came up with the idea of an oblong with slightly rounded corners. And from that we will be able to infer who is copying whom. It is a shame that all this crap is detracting from discussing the Alpha. The phone is a radical departure for Samsung, if only for moving away from the mantra of more is better. Look at the battery size, 1860 mAh, they must be super confident in the battery efficiency of that octocore chip. They must have nailed the LTE modem as well as we haven’t seen that many LTE Samsungs with out Qualcomm SoCs.

18-08-2014, 08:23	#62
IvanIV Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 25,199	Samsung got where they are now by leading uncompromising specs wars, telling us they have for us the best, strongest, fastest, etc. I wonder how this new direction will work for them.

18-08-2014, 08:34	#63
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by MrSuper For fcks sake! Why does every brand new thread about a smartphone always have the same usual suspects coming in and taking over with their bullshit?! Why am i not surprised you went and found an article mentioning the iPhone and the Alpha and then dragged it in here so you could hijack the thread. This is for the Samsung Galaxy Alpha so why would anyone want to talk about and discuss the iPhone?? I'm absolutely fcking sick of this shit! It happens all the time. I know. Pathetic isn't it! I don't know why you're surprised, as I think you'd struggle to find many threads about phones other than the iPhone where I've posted anything at all. My point here wasn't that the Alpha looked like the iPhone to hijack anything. My point was about how stupid it is to rely on a headline from an article, and a headline only, to make a point. And how pointless any discussion is when people make perfectly good arguments to the contrary, but someone just repeatedly bangs on about the headline. Which is what Kidspud was talking about in his reply to swordman before my post.

18-08-2014, 11:49	#64
klendathu Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 10,726	Trouble in the playground again tut

18-08-2014, 12:27	#65
finbaar Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,921	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie I don't know why you're surprised, as I think you'd struggle to find many threads about phones other than the iPhone where I've posted anything at all. My point here wasn't that the Alpha looked like the iPhone to hijack anything. My point was about how stupid it is to rely on a headline from an article, and a headline only, to make a point. And how pointless any discussion is when people make perfectly good arguments to the contrary, but someone just repeatedly bangs on about the headline. Which is what Kidspud was talking about in his reply to swordman before my post. Oh you sound like a knowledgeable chap. Could you tell me which came first – December 2012 or September 2012?

18-08-2014, 12:43	#66
xxTinkerbellexx Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: South of Watford Posts: 4,340	Decided to keep my S5. Will wait for the next iteration of the Alpha...

18-08-2014, 13:55	#67
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	With that metal chassis did Samsung ever have Bendgate with the Galaxy series? Heres pic of bents phones, the cause for some, being that the user put them in their pocket ! http://images.google.com/images?q=Samsung+bendgate http://images.google.com/images?q=iphone+bendgate

18-08-2014, 14:06	#68
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie I don't know why you're surprised, as I think you'd struggle to find many threads about phones other than the iPhone where I've posted anything at all. My point here wasn't that the Alpha looked like the iPhone to hijack anything. My point was about how stupid it is to rely on a headline from an article, and a headline only, to make a point. And how pointless any discussion is when people make perfectly good arguments to the contrary, but someone just repeatedly bangs on about the headline. Which is what Kidspud was talking about in his reply to swordman before my post. Well this one for a start. You brought apple into this thread needlessly. Sometimes I think younxant help yourself but constantly yap about apple...

18-08-2014, 14:13	#69
ACU Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 7,916	Always makes me laugh, at how these threads deterioate into a them Vs us thread. I havent posted in these types of thread for ages. Thought I would try again today, and it seems things havent changed much over the last couple of months. How about we stick to just discussing the Samsung Alpha.

18-08-2014, 14:19	#70
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Well, I'm still wondering if that metal chassis is needed. The reality is that plastic design(polycarbonate if you want to be posh) is a major positive. A 720p screen is fine, but does that mean it a beast of a mid range phone?

18-08-2014, 14:39	#71
Jamie_Bradley Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 369	I'm interested to see how it sells, Samsung sales are falling through the floor across the globe. So let's see if this phone outsells the iPhone 6. Could this be the first Samsung phone to out sell an iPhone? But then with Apples sales seeing big growth it will have to perform very well to beat the iPhone 6.

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Samsung Galaxy Alpha

18-08-2014, 14:49	#72
IvanIV Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 25,199	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Well, I'm still wondering if that metal chassis is needed. The reality is that plastic design(polycarbonate if you want to be posh) is a major positive. A 720p screen is fine, but does that mean it a beast of a mid range phone? They were told too many times that Samsung plastic looks cheap, which I agree with, especially the white one. This is supposed to be something premium looking. Personally I have nothing against plastic, if the surface finish is nice.

18-08-2014, 15:25	#73
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles Well this one for a start. You brought apple into this thread needlessly. Sometimes I think younxant help yourself but constantly yap about apple... Happening to mention it here is hardly evidence of doing that on a regular basis. Both you and I have contributed on plenty of Apple related threads where other stuff has cropped up. Not to mention the context here, which wasn't really Apple, or the iPhone, but rather how pointless it is to rely on solely on a headline to make an argument. Looks like people's sense of irony has deserted them here.

18-08-2014, 23:33	#74
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie Happening to mention it here is hardly evidence of doing that on a regular basis. Both you and I have contributed on plenty of Apple related threads where other stuff has cropped up. Not to mention the context here, which wasn't really Apple, or the iPhone, but rather how pointless it is to rely on solely on a headline to make an argument. Looks like people's sense of irony has deserted them here. No, you didn't just happen to mention it. You deliberately made a post designed to bait and cause an issue. I have indeed contributed to apple etc threads, but what I have never done is went out my way on an apple thread, is bring android into it to cause a problem. You on the other hand have done that several times.

18-08-2014, 23:36	#75
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by IvanIV They were told too many times that Samsung plastic looks cheap, which I agree with, especially the white one. This is supposed to be something premium looking. Personally I have nothing against plastic, if the surface finish is nice. My dad last week ditched his iPhone and got a galaxy S5 in white. I think it looks lovely as does he. His wife upgraded her S3 to the S5 as well but it was the gold one. Its very tacky looking but I think that for any gold phone.