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Fleur East Discussion Thread
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Eva_Coco_May
05-12-2015
They don't mention her every X factor show...

She's number 22 in Sweden iTunes
jerefprdterra
05-12-2015
Originally Posted by Eva_Coco_May:
“They don't mention her every X factor show...

She's number 22 in Sweden iTunes”

On Spotify there is a track by track chat with Fleur which is interesting. x
Abala
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“You're not wasting your time responding? But you responded anyway. How does that work?

Fleur has sold more of *one single*. How difficult is that to understand? And actually, if you take into account the winners single Ben has sold more. But this could all change of course, for either of them, which is why basing something off of *one single* is so ridiculous. You're so eager to proclaim some sort of victory over Ben you're basically sticking your fingers in your ears and going 'la la la' while picturing unicorns pooping rainbows.

Why don't you try embracing some actual facts rather than just your hopes?”

Fleur is definitely getting a US record deal. Have you not seen the US ad? You'd think she won the series.

Also Sax is being pushed in France, Italy, Germany, Sweden, The Netherlands, Australia and New Zealand, plus a load of other countries. There's some sort of global launch plan. US will obviously be part of those plans.

You need to chillout a little. It isn't Fleur vs. Ben. One is a really commercial dance-pop artist and the other will take more time to build a following for their sound.
Eva_Coco_May
06-12-2015
It shows Ben haenow and a tiny clip of Fleur! Just wait and see what happens, I hope you are right in terms of global launch though
mmpfb
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by Abala:
“Fleur is definitely getting a US record deal. Have you not seen the US ad? You'd think she won the series.

Also Sax is being pushed in France, Italy, Germany, Sweden, The Netherlands, Australia and New Zealand, plus a load of other countries. There's some sort of global launch plan. US will obviously be part of those plans.

You need to chillout a little. It isn't Fleur vs. Ben. One is a really commercial dance-pop artist and the other will take more time to build a following for their sound.”

I'm perfectly chill thanks. I'm not the one who keeps bringing Ben up. I'm merely responding to those who keep going 'OMG she beat Ben!!!1111 of course she's going to get a US deal and Janet Jackson will prolly anoint her keeper of Michael's legacy lol'

All I'm asking for is some sort of realistic discussion rather than the spurious and blinkered tribal nonsense that certain posters keep spouting. There are reasonable and articulate Fleur fans out there with realistic expectations as proved by cfc86. Sadly it seems there's a tiny handful of fans who seem to want a perpetual advert for Fleur on the MFs, who bump this thread at every available opportunity with flimsy inanities so that it stays on the front page, and then try to shut down any poster making perfectly valid points that don't fit the narrative they wish to sell.

If realistic discussion is not desired by those posters then they should really have the good grace to take it to the appreciation thread.
IsItThatDeep
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“I'm perfectly chill thanks. I'm not the one who keeps bringing Ben up. I'm merely responding to those who keep going 'OMG she beat Ben!!!1111 of course she's going to get a US deal and Janet Jackson will prolly anoint her keeper of Michael's legacy lol'

All I'm asking for is some sort of realistic discussion rather than the spurious and blinkered tribal nonsense that certain posters keep spouting. There are reasonable and articulate Fleur fans out there with realistic expectations as proved by cfc86. Sadly it seems there's a tiny handful of fans who seem to want a perpetual advert for Fleur on the MFs, who bump this thread at every available opportunity with flimsy inanities so that it stays on the front page, and then try to shut down any poster making perfectly valid points that don't fit the narrative they wish to sell.

If realistic discussion is not desired by those posters then they should really have the good grace to take it to the appreciation thread.”

Apparently Fleur's now number 10 in Tazbekistan iTunes

Seriously though, this FM talks sense j/s
jerefprdterra
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by IsItThatDeep:
“Apparently Fleur's now number 10 in Tazbekistan iTunes

Seriously though, this FM talks sense j/s”

Silly comments like this do nothing to add to what is supposed to be a discussion thread. Ah well.
Eva_Coco_May
06-12-2015
Jingle bell ball performance seems to have gone down well! I thought it were pure sass
jerefprdterra
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by Eva_Coco_May:
“Jingle bell ball performance seems to have gone down well! I thought it were pure sass”

Yes, seems to have had a very good reaction which is great.
IsItThatDeep
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by jerefprdterra:
“Silly comments like this do nothing to add to what is supposed to be a discussion thread. Ah well.”

Oh, the irony in this quote!!!

I was trying to re-enforce what the OP said, that inane posts like hourly updates on album position in random countries do not belong on the main board and if you are going to quote me, perhaps you should quote the whole message which puts the quote into perspective.
Eva_Coco_May
06-12-2015
Sorry I just saw it on Sweden and didn't expect to have been in the chart yet that's all - was worthy of discussion on my opinion because she's started getting recognised in Europe - sorry
jerefprdterra
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by IsItThatDeep:
“Oh, the irony in this quote!!!

I was trying to re-enforce what the OP said, that inane posts like hourly updates on album position in random countries do not belong on the main board and if you are going to quote me, perhaps you should quote the whole message which puts the quote into perspective.”

If that is what you think then i suggest you post these comments on the LM Discussion thread and see what response you get. Good luck.
Fiercefanatic
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by Eva_Coco_May:
“Sorry I just saw it on Sweden and didn't expect to have been in the chart yet that's all - was worthy of discussion on my opinion because she's started getting recognised in Europe - sorry”

Don't apologise, some people just don't like seeing others be pleased for their favourite artist.
IsItThatDeep
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by jerefprdterra:
“If that is what you think then i suggest you post these comments on the LM Discussion thread and see what response you get. Good luck.”

That one should be moved as well. Two wrongs don't make a right.


Fans of a particular act should be able to swap news and pleasantries with each other that's what the appreciation threads are for. You would also find it would be a more pleasant place for Fleur fans to post and people would be less likely to wind you up and post negative comments.
cfc86
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by jerefprdterra:
“If that is what you think then i suggest you post these comments on the LM Discussion thread and see what response you get. Good luck.”

The posters on there don't post daily updates on where the album or singles are in the chart. They do midweek and where it's likely to chart.

The rest is talk about upcoming gigs, news, tour dates and, case of last night, videos of performances.
xhannahlongx
06-12-2015
I like fleur but dont come here often, this is a discussion thread, not an appreciation thread. People should be able to have discussions about fleur (positive or constructive) without posters like jeref pratically pulling what you said apart and telling you its wrong.

This thread should be used to discuss things and posters sharing their opinions on things. Just because not everyone is up an artists arse doesn't mean they can't share an opinion on them, their album or performances etc.
cfc86
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by xhannahlongx:
“I like fleur but dont come here often, this is a discussion thread, not an appreciation thread. People should be able to have discussions about fleur (positive or constructive) without posters like jeref pratically pulling what you said apart and telling you its wrong.

This thread should be used to discuss things and posters sharing their opinions on things. Just because not everyone is up an artists arse doesn't mean they can't share an opinion on them, their album or performances etc.”

Agreed. I have no problem with posters saying they love or hate Fleur or commenting on a performance of hers whether it's positive or negative. If these people can't handle the criticism she gets then they should avoid other sorts of media where criticism is a lot worse. They should avoid the music forum too as some posters can be very cutting and rip artists to shreds.

It's actually jeref that has stopped this thread being enjoyable for me. He/she is under the impression only their opinion matters although they do accept comments from others but only if it's about how amazing and perfect Fleur is. There's liking an artist then there's thinking the sun shines out of their arse.

As well as thinking they are right this poster is very rude. Yesterday or Friday another poster mentioned about a Swedish contestant singing Sax and he/she posted the link saying it's no match to Fleur. That poster never said she was and I found that comment tmy jeref rude and very stuck up. I could never speak to somebody like that on here and try my best to be polite to everyone including the rude people. A couple of posters could do well by trying the same.
Fiercefanatic
06-12-2015
If someone's posts bother you that much then you're supposed to use the ignore feature That's why it's there.

Don't think it's fair to blame all the negativity on one member. It takes two to tango.
Eva_Coco_May
06-12-2015
MayB we should get the thread back on track and post constructive critisicm - I enjoy posting in here I know Fleur isn't everyone's cup of tea but before writing her off maybe just wait and see.

I'm aware her album sales don't look as good as expected but we shall see she's done more than good enough with sax

Maybe if she did a ballad it would be the game change
Fiercefanatic
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by xhannahlongx:
“I like fleur but dont come here often, this is a discussion thread, not an appreciation thread. People should be able to have discussions about fleur (positive or constructive) without posters like jeref pratically pulling what you said apart and telling you its wrong.

This thread should be used to discuss things and posters sharing their opinions on things. Just because not everyone is up an artists arse doesn't mean they can't share an opinion on them, their album or performances etc.”

I agree with this. The main problem though seems to be that the negative posts are not constructive at all.
IsItThatDeep
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by Fiercefanatic:
“I agree with this. The main problem though seems to be that the negative posts are not constructive at all.”

How is that any different to any other thread in this forum? As I said before if you post on the main board this is what you can expect.
cfc86
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by Fiercefanatic:
“If someone's posts bother you that much then you're supposed to use the ignore feature That's why it's there.

Don't think it's fair to blame all the negativity on one member. It takes two to tango.”

I just skip past them now. The ignore feature doesn't always work as a poster could quote that person and you would still see what they said.

It takes two to tango in an argument I agree but its one person who was rude to ASwede who only posted about somebody covering Sax. You're not rude, nor is Eva or anyone else on this thread.

Originally Posted by Eva_Coco_May:
“MayB we should get the thread back on track and post constructive critisicm - I enjoy posting in here I know Fleur isn't everyone's cup of tea but before writing her off maybe just wait and see.

I'm aware her album sales don't look as good as expected but we shall see she's done more than good enough with sax

Maybe if she did a ballad it would be the game change”

I think a ballad would have suited the album but I know she said she didn't want one. I actually enjoyed her performance of Will You Be There so I think it's a shame she decided against a ballad.


Originally Posted by Fiercefanatic:
“I agree with this. The main problem though seems to be that the negative posts are not constructive at all.”

You get that anywhere though not just this thread but on the forum itself. It's in the soap, music, Strictly, I'm A Celebrity and all the other forums too. Even twitter which is far worse critisicm wise than on here. Not that that makes it any better or excusable.
Eva_Coco_May
06-12-2015
Wow yeah I love her will you be there maybe shel do a ballad later - she's all about the performance tho she loves the high energy and wants to entertain. I'm glad someone covered sax - it's exposure
MysteriousOz
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by jerefprdterra:
“Everyone on here knows that you have no interest in Fleur as an artist, and dont like her music, so just out of interest why do you spend more time on this thread than any other? I just find it rather odd.”

It's just that this thread never leaves the front page mostly thanks to you bumping it up all the time. Thankfully people like me and many others keep the forum a mix of reality with fair and constructive comments
outof thepark
06-12-2015
The X factor cannot work it's magic anymore that's self evident, Fleur has been given a great platform, she is very lucky
I if she has it she will get there, but it's not an easy road.
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