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Fleur East Discussion Thread
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jerefprdterra
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“Oh please, far better than Fleur have come from the show and been signed with Syco and even been signed to U.S labels as well, yet nothing has come from it or they've been dropped by SYCO.”

You cant hep yourself can you hanging on everything that Fleur does, and hoping she is going to fail. Well you are going to be waiting a very long time. And by the way who do you actually like other than Ben as yu never seem to tell us.
mmpfb
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by jerefprdterra:
“You cant hep yourself can you hanging on everything that Fleur does, and hoping she is going to fail. Well you are going to be waiting a very long time. And by the way who do you actually like other than Ben as yu never seem to tell us.”

Someone's getting a bit touchy, prissy even
Maxine_Roch
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Both of their previous albums went top five and are certified platinum though. The new one isn't there yet.”

i'm talking about FIRST WEEK sales . There third album has been there best first week sales yet by a mile and hasn't left the top 10 since being released last month .
cfc86
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“Oh please, far better than Fleur have come from the show and been signed with Syco and even been signed to U.S labels as well, yet nothing has come from it or they've been dropped by SYCO.”

As much as I like Fleur I agree with this. Alex and Leona come to mind. Alex especially with that mess of a second album.
Eva_Coco_May
11-12-2015
I think Alex and Fleur are similar, Fleur is alot more marketable IMO, and it takes more than a singing voice to make it, for example Fleur's fashion is always on point - being a pop star is very focussed on style, choreography, songs and overall personality. Fleur has all that IMO.

Leona, hasnt had alot of promo with her latest album, Alex could get back into making music but shes busy doing the bodyguard which by the way was a very big achievement.

Theres room for all these artists in the market, if public dont get behind you, thats why an artist doesnt get anywhere it isnt because they arent worthy.
jerefprdterra
11-12-2015
Other than Fleur the only other decent act to come out of this naff show is Alex. The rest are also rans as far as i am concerned.
mmpfb
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by Eva_Coco_May:
“I think Alex and Fleur are similar, Fleur is alot more marketable IMO, and it takes more than a singing voice to make it, for example Fleur's fashion is always on point - being a pop star is very focussed on style, choreography, songs and overall personality. Fleur has all that IMO.

Leona, hasnt had alot of promo with her latest album, Alex could get back into making music but shes busy doing the bodyguard which by the way was a very big achievement.

Theres room for all these artists in the market, if public dont get behind you, thats why an artist doesnt get anywhere it isnt because they arent worthy.”

It's not just about the public being behind you though, you have to have good material to have any longevity beyond the first single. Time will tell whether Fleur's material carries her forward but it's where XF acts usually fall flat, because Cowell just isn't bothered with development - it's quick hits or it's nothing.

If the album sales don't pick up it's going to get harder and harder for Fleur because she's reliant on the songwriting support for her material. Lesser sales mean less songwriters/producers interested in working with you because the royalties won't be there, and Cowell won't be willing to stump up money to make up the shortfall.
lewismacf
11-12-2015
Has fleur beem dropped
Eva_Coco_May
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“It's not just about the public being behind you though, you have to have good material to have any longevity beyond the first single. Time will tell whether Fleur's material carries her forward but it's where XF acts usually fall flat, because Cowell just isn't bothered with development - it's quick hits or it's nothing.

If the album sales don't pick up it's going to get harder and harder for Fleur because she's reliant on the songwriting support for her material. Lesser sales mean less songwriters/producers interested in working with you because the royalties won't be there, and Cowell won't be willing to stump up money to make up the shortfall.”

Of course but public is what buys the material and songs and Taste is all subjective so it's what appeals to the masses, I do expect Cowell to drop Fleur I can just feel maybe not now but in due course - it doesn't mean she won't get another label - depends on her sales in the next couple of weeks to a month. Wel see I ain't banking on anything now following the album release.
Eva_Coco_May
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by lewismacf:
“Has fleur beem dropped”

Nothing been said its just speculation
Eva_Coco_May
11-12-2015
Love sax and flashbacks is number 14 ouch
mmpfb
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by Eva_Coco_May:
“Of course but public is what buys the material and songs and Taste is all subjective so it's what appeals to the masses, I do expect Cowell to drop Fleur I can just feel maybe not now but in due course - it doesn't mean she won't get another label - depends on her sales in the next couple of weeks to a month. Wel see I ain't banking on anything now following the album release.”

Sure, but you have to have both and material is what always gets forgotten about on here.

Anyone who gets to the final has a sizeable number of people 'behind them'. But if the material's not there subsequently then they don't stand a chance.
xhannahlongx
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by Eva_Coco_May:
“Love sax and flashbacks is number 14 ouch”

Oh dear! Just held on to the top 15
cfc86
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by Eva_Coco_May:
“I think Alex and Fleur are similar, Fleur is alot more marketable IMO, and it takes more than a singing voice to make it, for example Fleur's fashion is always on point - being a pop star is very focussed on style, choreography, songs and overall personality. Fleur has all that IMO.

Leona, hasnt had alot of promo with her latest album, Alex could get back into making music but shes busy doing the bodyguard which by the way was a very big achievement.

Theres room for all these artists in the market, if public dont get behind you, thats why an artist doesnt get anywhere it isnt because they arent worthy.”

I would love if Leona, Alex, Rebecca, Little Mix and Fleur could all bein the charts but unfortunately it seems to only be Little Mix and Fleur though Rebecca does okay with her albums rather than singles. I wonder if Alex were to record again if she'dbe successful after her run in The Bodyguard.

Originally Posted by Eva_Coco_May:
“Love sax and flashbacks is number 14 ouch”

Oh dear. That's worse than I expected. I suspect a certain Cowell won't be too pleased. As long as next week it doesn't drop too much otherwise the next single could decide her future. Here's hoping her performance with Little Mix can increase sales.
Daewos
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by Eva_Coco_May:
“Love sax and flashbacks is number 14 ouch”

Doesn't matter - sales are all that count. Do we have any actual numbers? That is all that Syco are concerned with.
rattie
11-12-2015
In all honesty I don't see her or Ben having staying power. I preferred Ben but neither of them are unique or stand out in any way. There just isn't anything to grab people, all a bit generic but that's just my ears after all.
rattie
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by Daewos:
“Doesn't matter - sales are all that count. Do we have any actual numbers? That is all that Syco are concerned with.”

Maybe 28k? Not exceptional anyway.
Master Ozzy
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by jerefprdterra:
“You cant hep yourself can you hanging on everything that Fleur does, and hoping she is going to fail. Well you are going to be waiting a very long time. And by the way who do you actually like other than Ben as yu never seem to tell us.”

I'm not hoping she is going to fail, I'm simply giving my view. You moan about people being negative about Fleur coming into this thread, but part of the reason so many people are drawn to the thread in the first place is due to the absolutely ludicrous things that a lot of Fleur fans (mainly you) come out with. The other week you were all claiming she would be a worldwide star and that her debut album would be hitting number one. The conversation in the thread seems to have taken a different turn now though doesn't it? Now that the album hadn't even cracked the top ten, nevermind getting to number one. As for Ben...for about the hundredth time, I am not a fan of Ben. People have addressed this Ben obsession with you so many times yet you keeping banging the same old drum. Just because someone isn't a fan of Fleur, doesn't mean they're a fan of Ben.
jerefprdterra
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by rattie:
“In all honesty I don't see her or Ben having staying power. I preferred Ben but neither of them are unique or stand out in any way. There just isn't anything to grab people, all a bit generic but that's just my ears after all.”

Does anyone know what Ben is doing these days?
Eva_Coco_May
11-12-2015
No numbers yet but she sold more than Ben last update was 24k he did 18.1k
rattie
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by Eva_Coco_May:
“No numbers yet but she sold more than Ben last update was 24k he did 18.1k”

Yes she has but in a higher selling week. So it's a bit of a leveller really. Huge hype around Adele at the mo so I guess others will be eclipsed. They are both on the final of XF this weekend so maybe that will boost them.
mmpfb
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by jerefprdterra:
“Does anyone know what Ben is doing these days?”

Originally Posted by Eva_Coco_May:
“No numbers yet but she sold more than Ben last update was 24k he did 18.1k”

Just LOL at you two making this about Ben again. NO ONE HERE CARES.

Seriously, she could die tomorrow and you'd be going 'well she sold more than Ben'. I swear that's all any of you so-called Fleur fans care about.
Eva_Coco_May
11-12-2015
You wanted numbers so I gave them as it stands bens sold more than her and charted higher just giving the first week sales
mmpfb
11-12-2015
Originally Posted by Eva_Coco_May:
“You wanted numbers so I gave them as it stands bens sold more than her and charted higher just giving the first week sales”

I didn't ask for numbers.

Besides, number can be given without comparison to Ben. A comparison which is fairly meaningless given how much more promo she had than him anyway.
Eva_Coco_May
11-12-2015
#justsaying
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