Isn't Ben on his tour now? He's signed to RCA and working on his new stuff as far as I'm aware so he has a second chance. He was never going to fit with syco but he could have success with another label you can never call it - depends on a lot of things.
Fleur East Discussion Thread
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Originally Posted by Eva_Coco_May:
“So did our Alexandra Burke and your point is what? The prides are good for fanbases one of the biggest in the uk and she's still a new artist barely even out 6 months, she's presented by G-A-Y which celebs perform at all the time so what's bad about that?
you missed out V festival big gig jersey, Sundown MTV Crashes Fusion and the summertime ball capital more to be announced
So typical of you to miss those off lol”
“So did our Alexandra Burke and your point is what? The prides are good for fanbases one of the biggest in the uk and she's still a new artist barely even out 6 months, she's presented by G-A-Y which celebs perform at all the time so what's bad about that?
you missed out V festival big gig jersey, Sundown MTV Crashes Fusion and the summertime ball capital more to be announced
So typical of you to miss those off lol”
Oh, but this is a very different story to what you were all saying 8 months or so ago. You had all pegged Fleur down to be a roaring success in the U.S, be collaborating with people such as Usher and have a hugely successful album...an album which in fact completely tanked. Suddenly all these Prides and other festivals seem good enough for her do they? Also, for the record I don't have any issue with people performing at festivals and events like these...Alexandra Burke had huge success and performed at events such as these. The problem though is when Fleur fans big her up to be this huge international upcoming worldwide star who would be collaborating with big names and dismiss anyone with a sense of realism who dares to be realistic about what will really happen. Never seen such ridiculous comments and expectations from a fan base, who now it seems are being brought back down to earth. As for Ben Haenow...what is the obsession with him? What on earth has he got to do with Fleur?
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“Oh, but this is a very different story to what you were all saying 8 months or so ago. You had all pegged Fleur down to be a roaring success in the U.S, be collaborating with people such as Usher and have a hugely successful album...an album which in fact completely tanked. Suddenly all these Prides and other festivals seem good enough for her do they? Also, for the record I don't have any issue with people performing at festivals and events like these...Alexandra Burke had huge success and performed at events such as these. The problem though is when Fleur fans big her up to be this huge international upcoming worldwide star who would be collaborating with big names and dismiss anyone with a sense of realism who dares to be realistic about what will really happen. Never seen such ridiculous comments and expectations from a fan base, who now it seems are being brought back down to earth. As for Ben Haenow...what is the obsession with him? What on earth has he got to do with Fleur?”
“Oh, but this is a very different story to what you were all saying 8 months or so ago. You had all pegged Fleur down to be a roaring success in the U.S, be collaborating with people such as Usher and have a hugely successful album...an album which in fact completely tanked. Suddenly all these Prides and other festivals seem good enough for her do they? Also, for the record I don't have any issue with people performing at festivals and events like these...Alexandra Burke had huge success and performed at events such as these. The problem though is when Fleur fans big her up to be this huge international upcoming worldwide star who would be collaborating with big names and dismiss anyone with a sense of realism who dares to be realistic about what will really happen. Never seen such ridiculous comments and expectations from a fan base, who now it seems are being brought back down to earth. As for Ben Haenow...what is the obsession with him? What on earth has he got to do with Fleur?”
Hope you will be at the V Festival where only the best acts are invited.
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“Oh, but this is a very different story to what you were all saying 8 months or so ago. You had all pegged Fleur down to be a roaring success in the U.S, be collaborating with people such as Usher and have a hugely successful album...an album which in fact completely tanked. Suddenly all these Prides and other festivals seem good enough for her do they? Also, for the record I don't have any issue with people performing at festivals and events like these...Alexandra Burke had huge success and performed at events such as these. The problem though is when Fleur fans big her up to be this huge international upcoming worldwide star who would be collaborating with big names and dismiss anyone with a sense of realism who dares to be realistic about what will really happen. Never seen such ridiculous comments and expectations from a fan base, who now it seems are being brought back down to earth. As for Ben Haenow...what is the obsession with him? What on earth has he got to do with Fleur?”
“Oh, but this is a very different story to what you were all saying 8 months or so ago. You had all pegged Fleur down to be a roaring success in the U.S, be collaborating with people such as Usher and have a hugely successful album...an album which in fact completely tanked. Suddenly all these Prides and other festivals seem good enough for her do they? Also, for the record I don't have any issue with people performing at festivals and events like these...Alexandra Burke had huge success and performed at events such as these. The problem though is when Fleur fans big her up to be this huge international upcoming worldwide star who would be collaborating with big names and dismiss anyone with a sense of realism who dares to be realistic about what will really happen. Never seen such ridiculous comments and expectations from a fan base, who now it seems are being brought back down to earth. As for Ben Haenow...what is the obsession with him? What on earth has he got to do with Fleur?”
Correction I said I hoped she would work wit usher because they both do the performance aspect I never said it would be a definate thing - she also has not been to US yet so how do we know what will happen and as its a tough market I see a little success Maybe not loads - I think her material could've been better though she worked with some talented song writers and producers and a lot of the songs on her album are decent and some are hits but no way was flop and flop going to shatter the charts it's to safe!! However she's wit syco - the talent and potential is there it's what her team do with it and that's my opinion they were really good with sax but they chose the wrong second single and everyone said it! There was even a poll so really syco screwed up and that's a fact.
Album hasn't tanked so say either she's sold as much as Sia Rihanna in the uk please get your facts right has it sold in big numbers nah? But at least it wasn't all streaming which is why a lot of artists get huge sales her was based on physical sales.
Huge events yes Fleur has those coming up - no one has a crystal ball in here, it's all speculation and predictions none of which any of us know will or won't happen I know you don't like her or rate her so you will be chuffed with her not doing brilliantly on one song doesn't mean she won't have success with another you can't call it I'm afraid.
However don't sit and say I said all this shit I said she had potential to make it
Big and it's all down to her material I've said never she would automatically become a star it takes a lot of hard work and hustling she has to start somewhere
Originally Posted by jerefprdterra:
“Hope you will be at the V Festival where only the best acts are invited.”
“Hope you will be at the V Festival where only the best acts are invited.”
Are you joking? It's probably the worst festival there is. I went there when I was 19 and it's the chaviest festival there is.
Originally Posted by jerefprdterra:
“Hope you will be at the V Festival where only the best acts are invited.”
“Hope you will be at the V Festival where only the best acts are invited.”
Including Little Mix who you've never had a good word to say about and yet they're many places further up the bill at V than Fleur. As are All Saints who haven't had a hit single in a decade
I haven't been to V yet but was gonna go this year
What is a good festival then? Glastonbury has no uptempo pop acts really cept Jess glynne
What is a good festival then? Glastonbury has no uptempo pop acts really cept Jess glynne
Really that's what it looked like to me, going as far to talk about the list order how sad is that and its split into two days Fleur is performing with Rihanna headlining I dunno about little mix I don't do reporting comments I'm not 5
I rarely post in here anymore because we always argue it's always the same you think she's a flop and I don't - this is why I go to popjustice because most of her supporters are there, all this negativey isn't good and This thread has got so bad I can't
Be Bothered with it and it's always the same argument it's reached a new low it's no wonder people who like Fleur don't post on here it's a nightmare
Be Bothered with it and it's always the same argument it's reached a new low it's no wonder people who like Fleur don't post on here it's a nightmare
Originally Posted by Eva_Coco_May:
“I rarely post in here anymore because we always argue it's always the same you think she's a flop and I don't - this is why I go to popjustice because most of her supporters are there”
“I rarely post in here anymore because we always argue it's always the same you think she's a flop and I don't - this is why I go to popjustice because most of her supporters are there”
She can't have many supporters then if they're all confined to one smallish site.
Originally Posted by Eva_Coco_May:
“all this negativey isn't good and This thread has got so bad I can't
Be Bothered with it and it's always the same argument it's reached a new low it's no wonder people who like Fleur don't post on here it's a nightmare”
“all this negativey isn't good and This thread has got so bad I can't
Be Bothered with it and it's always the same argument it's reached a new low it's no wonder people who like Fleur don't post on here it's a nightmare”
Aw. There's a special safe place for you. It's called the appreciation threads.
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“She can't have many supporters then if they're all confined to one smallish site.
Aw. There's a special safe place for you. It's called the appreciation threads.”
“She can't have many supporters then if they're all confined to one smallish site.
Aw. There's a special safe place for you. It's called the appreciation threads.”
It's posts like this that drive good people like Eva away from the forum.
Originally Posted by jerefprdterra:
“It's posts like this that drive good people like Eva away from the forum.”
“It's posts like this that drive good people like Eva away from the forum.”
Appreciation thread. ---->
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Appreciation thread. ---->”
“Appreciation thread. ---->”
i'm gonna suggest that DS give ponies to people who post in the right section
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“Oh, but this is a very different story to what you were all saying 8 months or so ago. You had all pegged Fleur down to be a roaring success in the U.S, be collaborating with people such as Usher and have a hugely successful album...an album which in fact completely tanked. Suddenly all these Prides and other festivals seem good enough for her do they? Also, for the record I don't have any issue with people performing at festivals and events like these...Alexandra Burke had huge success and performed at events such as these. The problem though is when Fleur fans big her up to be this huge international upcoming worldwide star who would be collaborating with big names and dismiss anyone with a sense of realism who dares to be realistic about what will really happen. Never seen such ridiculous comments and expectations from a fan base, who now it seems are being brought back down to earth. As for Ben Haenow...what is the obsession with him? What on earth has he got to do with Fleur?”
“Oh, but this is a very different story to what you were all saying 8 months or so ago. You had all pegged Fleur down to be a roaring success in the U.S, be collaborating with people such as Usher and have a hugely successful album...an album which in fact completely tanked. Suddenly all these Prides and other festivals seem good enough for her do they? Also, for the record I don't have any issue with people performing at festivals and events like these...Alexandra Burke had huge success and performed at events such as these. The problem though is when Fleur fans big her up to be this huge international upcoming worldwide star who would be collaborating with big names and dismiss anyone with a sense of realism who dares to be realistic about what will really happen. Never seen such ridiculous comments and expectations from a fan base, who now it seems are being brought back down to earth. As for Ben Haenow...what is the obsession with him? What on earth has he got to do with Fleur?”
It is a complete different story. I love her album, filled with possible hits. She has the potential to be big in places such as America and i completely blame it on Syco. Come on, they promoted Sax in Europe 2 months after it's main release and it's still yet to be released in the US. Yes they was a lot of comments about her collaborating with big names and never thought that'd happen, still don't. I guess people had higher expectations, and i guess many are just disappointed with the way she's being handled.
God knows what syco are doing with her there's a reason for it all I'm sure.
She's in Germany again ATM - Düsseldorf and she's performing there on Saturday
She's in Germany again ATM - Düsseldorf and she's performing there on Saturday
Originally Posted by Eva_Coco_May:
“God knows what syco are doing with her there's a reason for it all I'm sure.
She's in Germany again ATM - Düsseldorf and she's performing there on Saturday”
“God knows what syco are doing with her there's a reason for it all I'm sure.
She's in Germany again ATM - Düsseldorf and she's performing there on Saturday”
I'm sure this is like the Third time in 2 weeks. This European promotion hasn't worked well to my knowledge, so god knows what they're doing.
It's doing alright but sax kinda peaked in Europe when it first came out now it's slowing down so they should've done the promo earlier when it was fresh but they might be paving the way for another 2nd official global single, globally sax has done well for a newbie but the Europe promo was just a bit late
And by the way this isn't fact this is just my opinion and 100% speculation before someone accuse me of saying something that isn't the case.
And by the way this isn't fact this is just my opinion and 100% speculation before someone accuse me of saying something that isn't the case.
Originally Posted by Eva_Coco_May:
“It's doing alright but sax kinda peaked in Europe when it first came out now it's slowing down so they should've done the promo earlier when it was fresh but they might be paving the way for another 2nd official global single, globally sax has done well for a newbie but the Europe promo was just a bit late
And by the way this isn't fact this is just my opinion and 100% speculation before someone accuse me of saying something that isn't the case.”
“It's doing alright but sax kinda peaked in Europe when it first came out now it's slowing down so they should've done the promo earlier when it was fresh but they might be paving the way for another 2nd official global single, globally sax has done well for a newbie but the Europe promo was just a bit late
And by the way this isn't fact this is just my opinion and 100% speculation before someone accuse me of saying something that isn't the case.”
hope that you are right regarding another album. Hepefully a few more gigs will soon be on the horizon too which would help.
Australia it's gold - 35k
It's gold here
Not sure about the counties but went too 10 in Netherlands, and Hungary and top 20 in Germany, South Africa, France Norway Spain there are others but can't remember
Really can't remember exact numbers but when sax came out it was selling well, but 4 months down the line everyone's kinda already heard It so too late IMO.
It's gold here
Not sure about the counties but went too 10 in Netherlands, and Hungary and top 20 in Germany, South Africa, France Norway Spain there are others but can't remember
Really can't remember exact numbers but when sax came out it was selling well, but 4 months down the line everyone's kinda already heard It so too late IMO.
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“It is a complete different story. I love her album, filled with possible hits. She has the potential to be big in places such as America and i completely blame it on Syco. Come on, they promoted Sax in Europe 2 months after it's main release and it's still yet to be released in the US. Yes they was a lot of comments about her collaborating with big names and never thought that'd happen, still don't. I guess people had higher expectations, and i guess many are just disappointed with the way she's being handled.”
“It is a complete different story. I love her album, filled with possible hits. She has the potential to be big in places such as America and i completely blame it on Syco. Come on, they promoted Sax in Europe 2 months after it's main release and it's still yet to be released in the US. Yes they was a lot of comments about her collaborating with big names and never thought that'd happen, still don't. I guess people had higher expectations, and i guess many are just disappointed with the way she's being handled.”
You can't really blame it all on SYCO, I mean you've either got 'it' or you haven't. This is her second time around and she's still not really taken off - and the reason why? She's just not good enough.
You forgot to put IMO
However You're basically saying the producers writer directors and whoever aren't good enough.
Basically she just isn't to your taste and it's doubtful she's going to have Mega hits with every song that isn't the way the industry works - win some lose some, it's experiementing with different sounds and finding what works and what don't learning curves they can't be that dishearten about more and more no one in the team even tried to make it work they didn't send out the video and takes more than 1 performance to chart.
However I suppose labels change their mind about single releases all the time it's business .
Some of you on here just have no idea what Fleur is all about.
However You're basically saying the producers writer directors and whoever aren't good enough.
Basically she just isn't to your taste and it's doubtful she's going to have Mega hits with every song that isn't the way the industry works - win some lose some, it's experiementing with different sounds and finding what works and what don't learning curves they can't be that dishearten about more and more no one in the team even tried to make it work they didn't send out the video and takes more than 1 performance to chart.
However I suppose labels change their mind about single releases all the time it's business .
Some of you on here just have no idea what Fleur is all about.
Originally Posted by satellite:
“You can't really blame it all on SYCO, I mean you've either got 'it' or you haven't. This is her second time around and she's still not really taken off - and the reason why? She's just not good enough.”
“You can't really blame it all on SYCO, I mean you've either got 'it' or you haven't. This is her second time around and she's still not really taken off - and the reason why? She's just not good enough.”
Well she obviously does have 'it' or she wouldn't have came 2nd on The X Factor and Syco wouldn't have signed her, unless you're saying they've made a mistake? Therefore,
making Syco the ones to blame. Nobody buys a single from a new artist because of their looks, talents, whatever. It's down to the song and how it's marketed. She is good enough, Syco obviously must agree. She did well with Sax but the way they promoted her 2nd single is entirely down to the record label.
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“Well she obviously does have 'it' or she wouldn't have came 2nd on The X Factor and Syco wouldn't have signed her, unless you're saying they've made a mistake? Therefore,
making Syco the ones to blame. Nobody buys a single from a new artist because of their looks, talents, whatever. It's down to the song and how it's marketed. She is good enough, Syco obviously must agree. She did well with Sax but the way they promoted her 2nd single is entirely down to the record label.”
“Well she obviously does have 'it' or she wouldn't have came 2nd on The X Factor and Syco wouldn't have signed her, unless you're saying they've made a mistake? Therefore,
making Syco the ones to blame. Nobody buys a single from a new artist because of their looks, talents, whatever. It's down to the song and how it's marketed. She is good enough, Syco obviously must agree. She did well with Sax but the way they promoted her 2nd single is entirely down to the record label.”
hold on a sec , finishing second on the XF means an act has "it"
that must mean nicholas macdonald and reggie & bollie have "it" as didn't they both finish second on the XF as well?
as far as your comments about promotion, i couldn't agree more , talent is fairly irrelevant, its all about marketing, thats why despite having an inordinate amount of money spent promoting sax it had limited success. after having to invest so much on sax for that limited success maybe SYCO have just decided they cant justify that sort of investment again and thats why they haven't spent alot promoting the second single as its just not worth their while throwing money at a poor product.
Originally Posted by satellite:
“You can't really blame it all on SYCO, I mean you've either got 'it' or you haven't. This is her second time around and she's still not really taken off - and the reason why? She's just not good enough.”
“You can't really blame it all on SYCO, I mean you've either got 'it' or you haven't. This is her second time around and she's still not really taken off - and the reason why? She's just not good enough.”
The only reason that she has not taken off is that she has not been handled properly, and SYCO always mess up their solo acts as they did with Alex.
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