Hardly slagged off More and More - I felt there were stronger songs than the album for second single - it's not my favourite song I still like it.

Ah yeah and syco have messed up - mistakes learned hence why they pulled the single so time on, they don't always get it right.

Breakfast was the clear winner - they should've gone with the public choice - public aren't wrong they buy the singles!

will you stop moaning about SYCO

without the investment SYCO made and the support they have given in her she would be nowhere , not that she is much away from there with it i suppose

without those "talented songwriters and producers" paid for by SYCO there wouldn't be an album for you to be moaning about whether they picked the right single or not

Producers and songwriters write and produce songs because they get money for it. They may have gotten into music because they love it, but that's not the same thing as loving everything you are involved in in a professional capacity. If you seriously think they love everything they contribute to then you have no idea about the creative industries or even the creative process.

ps I told you my job earlier in the thread.


I'm sure they say lovely things about her and everyone else they work with. That's good PR and expected of professionals. Doesn't mean her album is any cop, though. Doesn't mean that they privately are particularly proud of it, either.


You've called More & More 'Flop & Flop' countless times in this thread, and gone on about how you knew it wasn't a hit etc etc, really bad choice for single, awful remix etc etc. Basically you're just looking for extenuating circumstances for poor performance at every which turn, blaming everything but the factor that's staring you in the face - that Fleur and her material just ain't all that.


Hear hear.

The only thing that SYCO have going for them is that they have plenty of money, but unfortunately very little know how as how to mould single acts as has been proved for many years. They are specialist in kiddie bands and that is it.

Then I'm afraid you have to acknowledge that the fact that Fleur needs 'moulding' is her own failing.

Hate to point out the obvious, but a lot of the producers and writers who worked on Fleur's album have a relationship with Syco. So they are hardly going to criticise one of their artists or their material. Also Camille bless her will work with anybody it seems. She's even written songs for acts like The Saturdays and Union J.

Fleur's confirmed to appear at Manchest Pride. Also big news, her US takeover begins on May 25th as she's performing on The Late Late Show.

Yes, saw that she is appearing on The Late Late show which is really good news for her.

Wonder what shes going to sing LOL

Oo exciting! Apparently it was played on the Ellen show this week, so promotion over there is certainly increasing..

Fleur must get seriously bored singing the same song over and over and over and over.

I agree. The whole promotion process of the song is a bit weird. 5 months and they're still doing it! However, I do think (or hope) it'll be a success in America as it sounds like song that would be.

She NEEDS to do well her as last single did not even make the top 200 lol whilst it also got aired on saturday night takeaway. I think its Cowell's last throw of the dice before he drops her. Sad but this is feeling very one hit wonderlike, once you have that tag you do not lose it. Not making the top 200 is a damning verdict on her popularity. Cowell dropped Ben a few months after his US debut went sour. TBH Fleur herself is probably bored of singingthe same song 1000 times and more, it really will be hard for her now. But then being dropped by Cowell is not the worst thing in the world. She could always find another label but Cowell appears to have destroyed her typical Cowell well he will surely find a replacement for her this Summer. In all honesty though one cannot simply blame the record label but must also accept that perhaps the artist is not that good/popular. Fleur needs to be held accountable for her record sales and popularity aswell as her label.

Way I see it is if Simon was goin to do the dropping now why send her to Bali to go writing with new producers and songwriters! She's already said in a newsletter she's working on new music - could be they are doing a new era or a album gold release -

I'm sorry but you can predict all you like it doesn't make it true and none of us know what they are planning.... More and more got scrapped before it had chance to gain momentum and radio didn't really pick it up I don't know how It can be expected to get interest....

Also Syco have said they are accountable if they make a wrong decision they
Made a last minute decision to release more and more It wasn't done properly it was rushed and the label made a mistake so they have to deal with the loss they have made - I also read that in a article - if they make the mistake for whatever reason they deal with it not the artist. This is one of those instances Yah we all Simon would drop Ben - he likes Fleur as an artist.

No one ever looks at facts or between the lines they just run away with snippets of Info to create a story.

I can't see Cowell dropping her. He seems very taken with her and will at least give her a shot at another album.

I really think she should send Breakfast to radio asap and do a video asap . then move onto the next project

I agree I just can't see him dropping her - another album I think would happens

Her album sales are exactly the same as every new artist, it's only established artists who have had years to create a fanbase sell 60-100k per week, she's on par with anyone else.

She sold more than Rihanna in uk - just saying

Seems appropriate to quote you back at yourself here...

Fleur album is 89k Rihanna's is 87k

Where am I lying? I found out on buzz jack.

We all know you have a thing for Fleur really. You cant help yourself can you.

Huh? You quoted the wrong post?

In other news Fleur is in the studio tonight - posted via snapchat

Obviously creating new music

Apologies Eva.

Not sure, when an artists single does not make even the top 200 that usually means said artist is doing horrendously. Her album only reached 14. At the end of the day its a business and Fleur is not delivering the goods. Whether Cowell likes her or not at some point, he will make that decision and I think it will come around summer/autumn when hes found a replacement. He pumped so much backing and money into her that surely he is making a loss not just in terms of money but in terms of time spent etc. She released Sax what? 7 months ago and to date she seems to be singing the same song over and over. Artists usually only attempt to break America once they have established themselves here, Fleur clearly has not done that yet which is why her attempt to break America seems like a final throw of the dice.

As I have stated before Fleur will be far better off when she goes to another label anyway. Syco should stick to running kids groups which is the only thing that they are able to do well.

So what if her album reached 14? Her album sales for 3 weeks would've put her top 10 any other they Released it in a real competitive period - she's brand new what do you expect her to compete with someone like little mix and one direction Adele and beiber! Does any one look at sales or just chart position??

If she got dropped its not the end of the world is it I'm sure shel get signed again she's with Columbia records to so who knows

They scrapped more and more it's like it never existed shel be back with another single in the summer,