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Dominic Treadwell-Collins. Sort it out!
I'll admit that the show is in a better state compared to this time last year, but there's still a huge void in the show with regards to storylines! It's highly irrtating because the cast is rock solid right now, and it has the best cast that we've seen in a long time. But Dominic isn't enticing us enough. He needs to tone down the Carter screentime, throw in more bg twists in the Lucy muder storyline and get at least 2 big hard-hitting and controversial storylines to get the nation talking.
I'm really not so sure that he's going to excel the Deidrick Santer era, which I first anticipated that he would. I like the heavy referencing to the past and the diversity of background characters that appear on the street, but it's just not enough to modernise the show, without doing the same with storylines The ratings are still pretty low, which just proves that existing viewers aren't bothered about the show. He's got until Autumn to tirn things around, but after that - if he doesn't pull a few surprising things out of the bag, he needs to go! |
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I'll admit that the show is in a better state compared to this time ladt year, but there's still a huge void in the show with regards to storylines! It's highly irrtating because the cast is rock solid right now, and it has the best cast that we've seen in a long time. But Dominic isn't enticing us enough. He needs to tone down the Carter screentime, throw in more bg twists in the Lucy muder storyline and get at least 2 big hard-hitting and controversial storylines to get the nation talking.
I'm really not so sure that he's going to excel the Deidrick Santer era, which I first anticipated that he would. I like the heavy referencing to the past and the diversity of background characters that appear on the street, but it's just not enough to modernise the show, without doing the same. The ratings are still pretty low, which just proves that existing viewers aren't bothered about the show. He's got until Autumn to tirn things around, but after that - if he doesn't pull a few surprising things out of the bag, he needs to go! |
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The show may not be as interesting as it could be but it's definitely improved, and it looks like a fantastic Autumn and Winter. Summer is always a bit slower because it's when the majority of people are on holiday, the weather is (supposedly) nice and people are making the most of the light evenings and going out more.
What's the point of making the Summer action packed when most people aren't going to be watching? They may as well save the drama for an unmissable Autumn and Winter when more people are likely to watch. |
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I think he should cut back on some of the Carters.
Ditch Lee, Tosh and Deano. Put Tina into a relationship with Sonia. |
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The lack of strong storylines is what's working against EastEnders but I don't have much else to complain about aside from Carter domination. We don't need to see every moment in the lives of the Carter family. They can run The Vic and serve as background characters while other characters come to the fore. But first and foremost the storylines need to start taking off. It seems like nothing has progressed in months except Sharon's attack and her revenge against Phil but even that is stop and start while the Carters are never off the screen.
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That's a pitiful excuse about the summer. Surely DTC would want to make an explosive summer as this would help the autumn stand a better chance. And how manu times have we heard about a 'big autumn/winter?' Kirkwood and Newman said the exact same things and look what we got!
Emmerdale are having a very big summer... It's doing wonders for them! |
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There are way to many carters, they were fantastic at the start but now they are being ruined and shoe horned into everything, It was much better at the start when it was just Shirley and Tina, Mick Linda and the 2 kids.
Shirley being Mick's real son is just ludicrous, and you have to think if Brian Kirkwood had done that people on here would be calling for his head. Hate this thing with Rainie and have no idea why they bought her back. Stacey's return has been terrible too, and I dont no what it is but her actings gone down hill, she always has this same dum expression on her face. Cindy's teenage prenancy is just boring and has been done to death, even in Corrie with Fay they are being more original. Lucy's murder is also dragging and getting boring, I think they should have killed her off around Oct/Nov time to reveal it for the 30th then it wouldn't have dragged on so long . |
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Get rid of the bloody kids.
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That's a pitiful excuse about the summer. Surely DTC would want to make an explosive summer as this would help the autumn stand a better chance. And how manu times have we heard about a 'big autumn/winter?' Kirkwood and Newman said the exact same things and look what we got!
Emmerdale are having a very big summer... It's doing wonders for them!
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The material should be consistent throughout the year regardless of what season we are in imo. We've had a few good weeks and a few bad weeks. With regards to the Carters, I like them, mainly Shirley but although she has taken a backseat over the last few weeks, the rest of them seem to be in every single episode?! Mick and Linda have been in almost 100 eps this year! The next couple of weeks, like last week are looking a little slow to me.
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There are way to many carters, they were fantastic at the start but now they are being ruined and shoe horned into everything, It was much better at the start when it was just Shirley and Tina, Mick Linda and the 2 kids.
Shirley being Mick's real son is just ludicrous, and you have to think if Brian Kirkwood had done that people on here would be calling for his head. Hate this thing with Rainie and have no idea why they bought her back. Stacey's return has been terrible too, and I dont no what it is but her actings gone down hill, she always has this same dum expression on her face. Cindy's teenage prenancy is just boring and has been done to death, even in Corrie with Fay they are being more original. Lucy's murder is also dragging and getting boring, I think they should have killed her off around Oct/Nov time to reveal it for the 30th then it wouldn't have dragged on so long . |
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I'll admit that the show is in a better state compared to this time last year, but there's still a huge void in the show with regards to storylines! It's highly irrtating because the cast is rock solid right now, and it has the best cast that we've seen in a long time. But Dominic isn't enticing us enough. He needs to tone down the Carter screentime, throw in more bg twists in the Lucy muder storyline and get at least 2 big hard-hitting and controversial storylines to get the nation talking.
I'm really not so sure that he's going to excel the Deidrick Santer era, which I first anticipated that he would. I like the heavy referencing to the past and the diversity of background characters that appear on the street, but it's just not enough to modernise the show, without doing the same with storylines The ratings are still pretty low, which just proves that existing viewers aren't bothered about the show. He's got until Autumn to tirn things around, but after that - if he doesn't pull a few surprising things out of the bag, he needs to go! Nothing is moving forward at all, it's all plodding along and TBH I think the show is really lacking without matriarchal figures like Pat and Peggy At the moment Cora and Babe are the closest we have, and they're hardly the best Everything is so confusing as there's just so much going on that is just going round in circles and the dialogue and stuff is always so secretive I know people keep saying 'Just wait! The storylines will move on soon!' Well why can't we have some moving forward right now, some in a few months e.t.c to keep us excited? |
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There are way to many carters, they were fantastic at the start but now they are being ruined and shoe horned into everything, It was much better at the start when it was just Shirley and Tina, Mick Linda and the 2 kids.
Shirley being Mick's real son is just ludicrous, and you have to think if Brian Kirkwood had done that people on here would be calling for his head. Hate this thing with Rainie and have no idea why they bought her back. Stacey's return has been terrible too, and I dont no what it is but her actings gone down hill, she always has this same dum expression on her face. Cindy's teenage prenancy is just boring and has been done to death, even in Corrie with Fay they are being more original. Lucy's murder is also dragging and getting boring, I think they should have killed her off around Oct/Nov time to reveal it for the 30th then it wouldn't have dragged on so long . There is nothing original about that. Its a desperate ploy to get headlines. Sarah Lou and Demi miller both gave birth at 13 so its hardly new either. |
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I think it's insulting that every year EastEnders trots out a load of rubbish in the Summer just because it's assumed correctly that casual viewers won't tune in. Don't the dedicated fans like us deserve to have quality storylines in the Summer regardless of whether fairweather fans are watching?
If anything should be looked at it's the attitude towards the ratings. It seems all the effort goes into the September to January peak ratings period and the rest of the year, especially June to August, is littered with filler storylines and the odd exciting episode here and there. It's been like this for years! |
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There is nothing original about that. Its a desperate ploy to get headlines. Sarah Lou and Demi miller both gave birth at 13 so its hardly new either.
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I think it's insulting that every year EastEnders trots out a load of rubbish in the Summer just because it's assumed correctly that casual viewers won't tune in. Don't the dedicated fans like us deserve to have quality storylines in the Summer regardless of whether fairweather fans are watching?
If anything should be looked at it's the attitude towards the ratings. It seems all the effort goes into the September to January peak ratings period and the rest of the year, especially June to August, is littered with filler storylines and the odd exciting episode here and there. It's been like this for years! I loved 2008 with Ronnie/Roxy in Weymouth and the introduction of Archie, 2010 I also really enjoyed with the teens in the woods and Lucas the serial killer, and 2011 with Whitney's prostitution. |
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Summers have been good previously though
I loved 2008 with Ronnie/Roxy in Weymouth and the introduction of Archie, 2010 I also really enjoyed with the teens in the woods and Lucas the serial killer, and 2011 with Whitney's prostitution. |
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Shirley being Mick's real son is just ludicrous, and you have to think if Brian Kirkwood had done that people on here would be calling for his head.
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There are way to many carters, they were fantastic at the start but now they are being ruined and shoe horned into everything, It was much better at the start when it was just Shirley and Tina, Mick Linda and the 2 kids.
Shirley being Mick's real son is just ludicrous, and you have to think if Brian Kirkwood had done that people on here would be calling for his head. Hate this thing with Rainie and have no idea why they bought her back. Stacey's return has been terrible too, and I dont no what it is but her actings gone down hill, she always has this same dum expression on her face. Cindy's teenage prenancy is just boring and has been done to death, even in Corrie with Fay they are being more original. Lucy's murder is also dragging and getting boring, I think they should have killed her off around Oct/Nov time to reveal it for the 30th then it wouldn't have dragged on so long . I also like Lucy's murder but I don't think that DTC should have revealed how long the s/l will last because anything that happens now may as well be discounted as a red herring as it's too early to reveal, unless he is double bluffing us. I don't mind Rainie, they should pair her up with Nick but I would rather see her with Cora than scenes with Phil, I see a grizzly end for her, not a long term character in my book. Stacey's return fell flat for me but then I wasn't much of a fan in the beginning, I think her return was mainly to increase ratings, they didn't really need her back and Cindy's pregnancy, I agree is boring and has been done to death, I would rather they had just had Ronnie's pregnancy and Kat/Alfie's twins. |
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The difference is that I would hope and assume that Treadwell-Collins intends to fully explore the aftermath and how the reveal will affect everyone in the family, whereas Bryan Kirkwood would have killed about half the family off within five minutes of the truth coming out.
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Summers have been good previously though
I loved 2008 with Ronnie/Roxy in Weymouth and the introduction of Archie, 2010 I also really enjoyed with the teens in the woods and Lucas the serial killer, and 2011 with Whitney's prostitution. |
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I'll admit that the show is in a better state compared to this time last year, but there's still a huge void in the show with regards to storylines! It's highly irrtating because the cast is rock solid right now, and it has the best cast that we've seen in a long time. But Dominic isn't enticing us enough. He needs to tone down the Carter screentime, throw in more bg twists in the Lucy muder storyline and get at least 2 big hard-hitting and controversial storylines to get the nation talking.
I'm really not so sure that he's going to excel the Deidrick Santer era, which I first anticipated that he would. I like the heavy referencing to the past and the diversity of background characters that appear on the street, but it's just not enough to modernise the show, without doing the same with storylines The ratings are still pretty low, which just proves that existing viewers aren't bothered about the show. He's got until Autumn to tirn things around, but after that - if he doesn't pull a few surprising things out of the bag, he needs to go! |
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I'll admit that the show is in a better state compared to this time last year, but there's still a huge void in the show with regards to storylines! It's highly irrtating because the cast is rock solid right now, and it has the best cast that we've seen in a long time. But Dominic isn't enticing us enough. He needs to tone down the Carter screentime, throw in more bg twists in the Lucy muder storyline and get at least 2 big hard-hitting and controversial storylines to get the nation talking.
I'm really not so sure that he's going to excel the Deidrick Santer era, which I first anticipated that he would. I like the heavy referencing to the past and the diversity of background characters that appear on the street, but it's just not enough to modernise the show, without doing the same with storylines The ratings are still pretty low, which just proves that existing viewers aren't bothered about the show. He's got until Autumn to tirn things around, but after that - if he doesn't pull a few surprising things out of the bag, he needs to go! |
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You're never gonna get the best out of a gritty east end soap with someone named "treadwell-collins" in charge are you?
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Summers have been good previously though
I loved 2008 with Ronnie/Roxy in Weymouth and the introduction of Archie, 2010 I also really enjoyed with the teens in the woods and Lucas the serial killer, and 2011 with Whitney's prostitution. |
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