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EE - I wish Santer would come back!
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ClassicGarfield
17-08-2014
Now don't get me wrong, I think Dominic Treadwell Collins (otherwise DTC) is great. Obviously some members on here are getting a bit annoyed at the lack of compelling storytelling from DTC so far, which I agree with. However I do think DTC is laying down the ground work and first trying to pay more attention to the finer quality of the show - which I think is good - but I think a lot of us are getting a bit frustrated because EastEnders really hasn't got "its balls back" yet. Firstly I just wanted to defend DTC in saying that I do think he is great for the show. He's so passionate from the sounds of him and the quality of EastEnders has without a doubt improved. I personally think the BBC need to keep DTC at EastEnders and I'll give him more time to really bring back EastEnders before casting my opinion on him as EP.

That all said though, I do miss Santer!

Kirkwood was the worst thing to ever happen to EastEnders and Lorraine Newman was less kitchen sink drama and more dull as dish water.

Diederick Santer knew how to constantly keep EastEnders exciting and number one soap. It's my favorite era!

Perhaps what everyone is missing from DTC is that little Santer magic?

My ideal scenario would be for Diederick Sander & DTC to work on EastEnders together again.
CherryRose
17-08-2014
I think DTC is doing well to unpick the wrong that LN and BK did to EE, it is going to take time. EE is a good again, I have no doubt that it will once again be great. However I do agree that DTC and Santer were a dream team.

Lets just hope Blackburn never gets his hands on it.
Marcus_Smith
17-08-2014
Originally Posted by ClassicGarfield:
“Now don't get me wrong, I think Dominic Treadwell Collins (otherwise DTC) is great. Obviously some members on here are getting a bit annoyed at the lack of compelling storytelling from DTC so far, which I agree with. However I do think DTC is laying down the ground work and first trying to pay more attention to the finer quality of the show - which I think is good - but I think a lot of us are getting a bit frustrated because EastEnders really hasn't got "its balls back" yet. Firstly I just wanted to defend DTC in saying that I do think he is great for the show. He's so passionate from the sounds of him and the quality of EastEnders has without a doubt improved. I personally think the BBC need to keep DTC at EastEnders and I'll give him more time to really bring back EastEnders before casting my opinion on him as EP.

That all said though, I do miss Santer!

Kirkwood was the worst thing to ever happen to EastEnders and Lorraine Newman was less kitchen sink drama and more dull as dish water.

Diederick Santer knew how to constantly keep EastEnders exciting and number one soap. It's my favorite era!

Perhaps what everyone is missing from DTC is that little Santer magic?

My ideal scenario would be for Diederick Sander & DTC to work on EastEnders together again.”

You Left out pat. The show needs Pat
Hetal
17-08-2014
Originally Posted by CherryRose:
“I think DTC is doing well to unpick the wrong that LN and BK did to EE, it is going to take time. EE is a good again, I have no doubt that it will once again be great. However I do agree that DTC and Santer were a dream team.

Lets just hope Blackburn never gets his hands on it.”

What's wrong with him?
Marcus_Smith
17-08-2014
The show needs Pat never mind bringing Santer back Pat is like the Bobby Ewing of EastEnders the shows now missing a center and nothing seems to be able to fill that
lou_123
17-08-2014
Don't we all wish he'd come back... Bring peggy and grant with him too...
Marcus_Smith
17-08-2014
Originally Posted by lou_123:
“Don't we all wish he'd come back... Bring peggy and grant with him too...”

Who'd Peggy interact with outside her family ?
lou_123
17-08-2014
Originally Posted by Marcus_Smith:
“The show needs Pat never mind bringing Santer back Pat is like the Bobby Ewing of EastEnders the shows now missing a center and nothing seems to be able to fill that ”

Peggy was better than pat, I don't miss pat half as much as I miss peggy... Pat was great though!
lou_123
17-08-2014
Originally Posted by Marcus_Smith:
“Who'd Peggy interact with outside her family ?”

Sharon, shirley, kat, alfie, carol etc?
ClassicGarfield
17-08-2014
Originally Posted by CherryRose:
“I think DTC is doing well to unpick the wrong that LN and BK did to EE, it is going to take time. EE is a good again, I have no doubt that it will once again be great. However I do agree that DTC and Santer were a dream team.

Lets just hope Blackburn never gets his hands on it.”

Oh yeah DTC is definitely doing great - which is why I felt compelled to write what seemed like a mad paragraph, defending him.

Oh gosh! Let's hope the BBC have learn from their previous two past mistakes and 100% NEVER hire Blackburn!
Marcus_Smith
17-08-2014
Originally Posted by lou_123:
“Sharon, shirley, kat, alfie, carol etc?”

Wouldn't be the same. She's not really friends with any of them and can't ever really remember that many scenes Peggy had with carol?
ClassicGarfield
17-08-2014
Originally Posted by Marcus_Smith:
“You Left out pat. The show needs Pat ”

Yeah it's really sad she's gone but unfortunately, she's dead.

It never washed with me what Pam said in her This Morning interview though, that she didn't want to die. I mean, she's Pam St. Clement!! I'd have point blank refused death by Kirkwood!
lou_123
17-08-2014
Originally Posted by ClassicGarfield:
“Now don't get me wrong, I think Dominic Treadwell Collins (otherwise DTC) is great. Obviously some members on here are getting a bit annoyed at the lack of compelling storytelling from DTC so far, which I agree with. However I do think DTC is laying down the ground work and first trying to pay more attention to the finer quality of the show - which I think is good - but I think a lot of us are getting a bit frustrated because EastEnders really hasn't got "its balls back" yet. Firstly I just wanted to defend DTC in saying that I do think he is great for the show. He's so passionate from the sounds of him and the quality of EastEnders has without a doubt improved. I personally think the BBC need to keep DTC at EastEnders and I'll give him more time to really bring back EastEnders before casting my opinion on him as EP.

That all said though, I do miss Santer!

Kirkwood was the worst thing to ever happen to EastEnders and Lorraine Newman was less kitchen sink drama and more dull as dish water.

Diederick Santer knew how to constantly keep EastEnders exciting and number one soap. It's my favorite era!

Perhaps what everyone is missing from DTC is that little Santer magic?

My ideal scenario would be for Diederick Sander & DTC to work on EastEnders together again.”

Dtc is good but doesn't know how to keep it exciting, he needs santer to help him, dtc is seriously abusing some of the cast members and not giving enough people meaty storylines! He has also been really bad at introducing new characters, some aren't used
At all, some are boring, and some are constantly shoved down our throats with about 20,000 secrets

What would be a real dream team would be John yorke and santer!

Dtc was better as story consultant IMO, but he still has this autumn/Christmas/winter/30th to prove himself!
TellMeMore
17-08-2014
Originally Posted by Hetal:
“What's wrong with him?”

Everything.
lou_123
17-08-2014
Originally Posted by Marcus_Smith:
“Wouldn't be the same. She's not really friends with any of them and can't ever really remember that many scenes Peggy had with carol? ”

Jane could start book club and she could find some new friends! Cora, Pam:O
ClassicGarfield
17-08-2014
Originally Posted by Marcus_Smith:
“Who'd Peggy interact with outside her family ?”

I'd like to have Peggy back for sure. Grant would be fine too, if he'd stick around for more than 5 minuets!
lionkingonstage
17-08-2014
Santer was very hot towards the latter part of his era on eastenders (IMO)
ClassicGarfield
17-08-2014
Originally Posted by TellMeMore:
“Everything.”

Aaron1995
17-08-2014
Lord knows how much I would love for this to happen, but sadly, I doubt he will ever return.
lou_123
17-08-2014
Originally Posted by ClassicGarfield:
“I'd like to have Peggy back for sure. Grant would be fine too, if he'd stick around for more than 5 minuets! ”

A heavily advertised peggy and grant comeback, and a gripping, thrilling storyline for them could boost figures 1-2 million...
ClassicGarfield
17-08-2014
Originally Posted by lou_123:
“Dtc is good but doesn't know how to keep it exciting, he needs santer to help him, dtc is seriously abusing some of the cast members and not giving enough people meaty storylines! He has also been really bad at introducing new characters, some aren't used
At all, some are boring, and some are constantly shoved down our throats with about 20,000 secrets

What would be a real dream team would be John yorke and santer!

Dtc was better as story consultant IMO, but he still has this autumn/Christmas/winter/30th to prove himself!”

I think a lot of the cast are definitely getting bloated! DTC should have axed quite a few more characters when he took over and brought new ones in. I have to say I really like the new characters introduced. But I think for each of their introductions, a more deadwood character should have left.

Yeah there does seem to be a secrets epidemic on the square, they need to bring in Jeremy Kyle with his lie detectors pronto and sort it out!

John Yorke, Santer & DTC together is like a wet dream for EastEnders!
Marcus_Smith
17-08-2014
Originally Posted by lou_123:
“Jane could start book club and she could find some new friends! Cora, Pam:O”

I could see Peggy and Pam getting along having a laugh but no I don't think Peggy and Cora could ever be in the same room as one another ever. I can just see it now Peggy wanting to ring Cora's Kneck.
ClassicGarfield
17-08-2014
Originally Posted by lou_123:
“A heavily advertised peggy and grant comeback, and a gripping, thrilling storyline for them could boost figures 1-2 million...”

I'm sure it could with the right story.
ClassicGarfield
17-08-2014
Originally Posted by Marcus_Smith:
“I could see Peggy and Pam getting along having a laugh but no I don't think Peggy and Cora could ever be in the same room as one another ever I could just see it now Peggy wanting to ring Cora's Kneck.”

She'll have to get in line!
lou_123
17-08-2014
Originally Posted by ClassicGarfield:
“She'll have to get in line! ”

Would be brilliant
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