Which will be the punchbag episode of Series 8?

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Phoenix Lazarus

19-08-2014

Originally Posted by Tony Tiger:
“ A lot of people are now coming round to the realisation that "Blink" is not worthy of the crazy praise it got at the time, the case will be similar with "Listen" IMO.”

In your opinion. One of my favourite episodes. It, or any other, are worthy of praise from the person praising them, if they like it.

Tony Tiger

19-08-2014

I don't think it's strictly my opinion that feelings toward Blink have cooled. This is more of an observation.

claire2281

19-08-2014

Originally Posted by CoalHillJanitor:
“Fair enough. I just always feel sorry for the punchbag episodes and wondered if there's some predictable factor or other that dooms them to that fate regardless of their intrinsic worth.”

I think people are assuming RoS simply because it's not a serious episode. Tbh though I think it's actually better than some of the serious ones - better structured and more entertaining.

Irma Bunt

19-08-2014

I feel terribly humbled reading this thread. I have to actually watch an episode before I feel able to judge it, or comment on it. I'm afraid I'm simply not clever enough to judge an episode solely on the basis of its title before it's been transmitted. Still, I stopped speculating like that years ago when I heard they were doing a story called Pyramids of Mars and thinking that was going to be crap...

CAMERA OBSCURA

19-08-2014

Originally Posted by Irma Bunt:
“ I stopped speculating like that years ago when I heard they were doing a story called Pyramids of Mars and thinking that was going to be crap...”

I recall seeing the trailer for Midnight, didn't think much of it, looked a bit cheap and dull. Turned out to be my favourite episode..in the woorrlllllddd.

adams66

19-08-2014

What an incredibly negative thread.
I genuinely don't understand how anyone can slag off an episode of a TV show that they've not even seen yet, nor do I understand why anyone would actually want to do this.
Sure, once you've watched the episode, if you don't like it there'll be plenty of threads for episode bashing.
But why decide in advance, your opinions based on little more than a title, and a very brief synopsis?
Surely it's better to approach the new series with an open mind.

CoalHillJanitor

19-08-2014

Originally Posted by adams66:
“What an incredibly negative thread.
I genuinely don't understand how anyone can slag off an episode of a TV show that they've not even seen yet, nor do I understand why anyone would actually want to do this.
Sure, once you've watched the episode, if you don't like it there'll be plenty of threads for episode bashing.
But why decide in advance, your opinions based on little more than a title, and a very brief synopsis?
Surely it's better to approach the new series with an open mind.”

As I tried to intimate, this thread is meant to be a bit ironic and satirise the phenomenon of group negativity. I don't personally expect to dislike any of the episodes.

adams66

19-08-2014

Originally Posted by CoalHillJanitor:
“As I tried to intimate, this thread is meant to be a bit ironic and satirise the phenomenon of group negativity. I don't personally expect to dislike any of the episodes.”

You might have intended it to be lighthearted and ironic, but I don't think many of the subsequent posters have understood that!

SJB 2007

19-08-2014

Originally Posted by CD93:
“Robot of Sherwood or Flatline.”

Well of the 3 i've seen this episode was the best one. Capaldi at times was channelling Malcolm Tucker!

I think you will be pleasantly surprised by it.

Steven_P

19-08-2014

Personally I'm not getting the hype of Listen... it seems to be one of those good concepts but with no story to back it up....

joeysneddon

19-08-2014

Originally Posted by Steven_P:
“Personally I'm not getting the hype of Listen... it seems to be one of those good concepts but with no story to back it up....”

Rather pleased I'll be coming to this one fresh, with no preconceptions then. Know nothing about it (so far) at all.

DoctorCapaldi

19-08-2014

Every episode sounds amazing to be honest, I've changed my mind. Not a single bad apple in the bunch.

Tony Tiger

19-08-2014

It's just a bit of fun trying to predict which ep will be the red headed step child of the season, as there's almost always one. I don't know why you need to get so offended by it.

adams66

19-08-2014

Originally Posted by Tony Tiger:
“It's just a bit of fun trying to predict which ep will be the red headed step child of the season, as there's almost always one. I don't know why you need to get so offended by it.”

I'm not the slightest bit offended, as I've not spent loads of time and effort producing a TV programme that ill informed people slag off before they've even seen it.

I am genuinely baffled as I fail to see how insulting a programme that you've not even seen is in any way 'a bit of fun'.

BTW - I have a red headed step child.

Tony Tiger

19-08-2014

How many people are really slagging off something they haven't seen though? It's all very upfront uninformed wild speculation, the whole point is the guessing based on very little! I think you're going out of your way to find "insult" where there is none tbh.

TheSilentFez

19-08-2014

Originally Posted by Tony Tiger:
“I think time is a good factor in these situations though. A lot of people are now coming round to the realisation that "Blink" is not worthy of the crazy praise it got at the time, the case will be similar with "Listen" IMO.”

I haven't seen any evidence of this. Blink still seems to be as popular now as it was back then, at least in my experience.
I'd also argue that it is very much worthy of the praise it has received.

Originally Posted by adams66:
“I am genuinely baffled as I fail to see how insulting a programme that you've not even seen is in any way 'a bit of fun'. ”

I don't see it as insulting the programme. There will without any shadow of a doubt be episodes which a lot of people dislike (or vehemently hate). We're just having fun speculating on what they may be.
My thoughts were that people are more likely to get angry at the episodes which sounded good on paper, but which ended up disappointing.

Very few people are actually passing any judgement now. Most people realise that it's sensible to wait until you've actually seen the episode.

Tony Tiger

19-08-2014

Originally Posted by TheSilentFez:
“I haven't seen any evidence of this. Blink still seems to be as popular now as it was back then, at least in my experience.
I'd also argue that it is very much worthy of the praise it has received.”

Well it's certainly anecdotal only, I've no hard science to back it up, but in my experience I've seen a lot of "I loved Blink at the time, but watching again it's not THAT great"-esque comments.

Andy_Smith1

19-08-2014

Having seen most of the first 3

Spoiler

Pink Knight

19-08-2014

Originally Posted by CD93:
“Sounds like a mummy on the Orient Express (in space?) - which sounds bonkers and brilliant ”

Maybe it will be, but I immediately thought of Dinosaurs on a Spaceship. Which apart from David Bradley, was a large load of arse. (For me anyway.)

CD93

19-08-2014

Originally Posted by Pink Knight:
“Maybe it will be, but I immediately thought of Dinosaurs on a Spaceship. Which apart from David Bradley, was a large load of arse. (For me anyway.)”

....this one lacks Chris Chibnall

(oooooh, controversial)

CoalHillJanitor

09-02-2015

I think the votes are in and the official punchbag is In the Forest of the Night!

bokonon

09-02-2015

Originally Posted by CoalHillJanitor:
“I think the votes are in and the official punchbag is In the Forest of the Night!”

And deservedly so. I look forward to many happy years punching it.

Dalekbuster523

09-02-2015

Originally Posted by Irma Bunt:
“I feel terribly humbled reading this thread. I have to actually watch an episode before I feel able to judge it, or comment on it. I'm afraid I'm simply not clever enough to judge an episode solely on the basis of its title before it's been transmitted. Still, I stopped speculating like that years ago when I heard they were doing a story called Pyramids of Mars and thinking that was going to be crap...”

Originally Posted by Tony Tiger:
“I don't think it's strictly my opinion that feelings toward Blink have cooled. This is more of an observation.”

A incorrect one, if the DWM 50 poll is anything to go by.

PaperSkin

09-02-2015

For me both Forest and Kill the Moon equally deserve to be scorned.

doctor blue box

09-02-2015

Originally Posted by CoalHillJanitor:
“I think the votes are in and the official punchbag is In the Forest of the Night!”

Another vote for the appalling forest of the night here, though the caretaker equally leaves a bad taste for me also. The only 2 I skipped when watching the dvd's. In fact I consider them both so bad that I even turned off the previous episode as soon as 'next time' came up so I didn't even have to see the trailer for them.

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