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Article about Good Morning Britain coming to UTV Ireland
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/m...lpXArY.twitter It is good to see the all too infrequent thing of broadcasters actually listening to the wishes of viewers and acting accordingly. I'd say that the demand was already there because ROI viewers had already been exposed to breakfast TV via rebroadcasts of UTV NI, etc. |
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In it's initial slot late lunch was getting between 25,000 and 40,000 viewers, depending on the day. It's weekly average was around 30,000, this was dragged down by the Friday edition. I've not seen January figures in its current slot, but I know it was doing well in November and December. It was hitting upwards of 65,000 on some days and I've seen a few days where it was topping 70,000. I'd imagine they'd be looking to grow the figures to above 100,000 viewers. But as you say it depends how much they invest in it. As it stands it's cheap daytime filler. They will need to differentiate between it and the one show, although having big name guests isn't a particular issue, you just have to look at the Saturday night shows ratings to see that. I wonder how long they will give it.
This could be a huge mistake for TV3. They probably only have one part of their schedule working at this stage. From 3.30 -7.00 the ratings appear to be acceptable (especially Judge Judy!) The News does very well some days and Xpose has it's regular Viewers. Changing the one thing that actually works is a huge risk. It's obvious they either have Money Problems at this stage or they're not willing to spend the extra cash. What will they put in at 3.30? and how will that effect Judge Judy. It could knock off 20% off her figures if it's something that pulls in less than Late Lunch. Why didn't they just launch the 7 O Clock show for an Hour as a separate show, like Life was supposed to be like? At the same time how interested are Advertisers going to be when almost all the target Market are either watching RTE1 or UTV at that time? |
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It now seems that life will only air Once a week on Fridays at 8pm, for five weeks.
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/m...life-1.2085857 Again I can't see it getting much traction as Eastenders is on at 8 on Fridays on RTE1/BBC1 plus UTV have Coronation Street on at 7.30. However I don't know what other day they could show it at 8 because that is prime time soap and the same audience. |
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The reality is that TV3 needed to make a quick decision about how to keep viewers on TV3 once XPOSE ended. The Lie and Nothing To Declare were failing to do this.
If they managed the same audience for LLL and gather a few more in after XPOSE, they should have around 100,000 starting off for the 7o'clock show. This is a lot better than what was currently there. I'm sure TV3 would rather ratings higher between 7-8 than at 3:30, where advertising rates would be higher. As for the vacant 3:30 slot, I would presume Jeremy Kyle again, but I hope they look for a new show as they lose JK next year. They could shift Tipping Point there as well. Would like to see something new. Is there anything in America that would easily sit in there? |
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The start of the GAA season highlights a contrast between two of the minor channels - Setanta will likely have a minuscule audience for their live match tonight, despite coming free with UPC and Eircom. On the other hand, TG4 do work their market share for live sport, but as with other minority broadcasters, have been unable to budge the regular schedule viewership:
http://www.tg4.ie/ie/production/tg4-viewing.html |
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The start of the GAA season highlights a contrast between two of the minor channels - Setanta will likely have a minuscule audience for their live match tonight, despite coming free with UPC and Eircom. On the other hand, TG4 do work their market share for live sport, but as with other minority broadcasters, have been unable to budge the regular schedule viewership:
http://www.tg4.ie/ie/production/tg4-viewing.html |
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The reality is that TV3 needed to make a quick decision about how to keep viewers on TV3 once XPOSE ended. The Lie and Nothing To Declare were failing to do this.
If they managed the same audience for LLL and gather a few more in after XPOSE, they should have around 100,000 starting off for the 7o'clock show. This is a lot better than what was currently there. I'm sure TV3 would rather ratings higher between 7-8 than at 3:30, where advertising rates would be higher. As for the vacant 3:30 slot, I would presume Jeremy Kyle again, but I hope they look for a new show as they lose JK next year. They could shift Tipping Point there as well. Would like to see something new. Is there anything in America that would easily sit in there? Having said that it might work. Something had to be done as the two current shows were doing a huge amount of damage to the station. However, what should have been done is to have introduced Life/The 7 O Clock show 5 nights a week as originally planned and kept Late Lunch Live at 3.30 which would have continued to slowly grow viewers at 3.30, especially when RTE really doesn't compete Daytime wise 6 months of the year. Punching a hole into your afternoon is not a good idea. Jeremy Kyle Repeats or a repeat of the previous nights 7 O clock show will put them back to square one or worse at that slot. That will have some sort of knock on effect on Judge Judy (one of TV3's most successful shows) There a real issue here that TV3 don't have the resources or the money to do this. If they are short of cash now, what's going to happen in 3 or 6 months time when things are substantially worse. |
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UTV is just ITV Ireland now.
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what is the Life programme on TV3?
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what is the Life programme on TV3?
![]() Now it's just going to run on Fridays for 6 weeks at 8pm. They're probably just burning off the interviews they've already done for the show. If it was a huge success they'd make more I would think but It's up against Eastenders and Coronation Street is on at 7.30 and 8.30 making the UTV 8.00 slot one of the two strongest they have all week. So logically it looks like they are burning it off. It also asks the question why are TV3 taking this course of action. Is it because TV3 don't want to spend the money, or is it because they don't have the money to spend? |
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UTVI are a disaster so far
They had over a year to get the content right News At 10 should be 30 minutes instead of 1 hour Have news on at the weekends at 630pm have their weekday evening news at 5pm They need to have all the ITV content, buy it off TV3 or buy TV3 Have all the ITV content at the same time as UTVNI |
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UTVI are a disaster so far
They had over a year to get the content right News At 10 should be 30 minutes instead of 1 hour Have news on at the weekends at 630pm have their weekday evening news at 5pm They need to have all the ITV content, buy it off TV3 or buy TV3 Have all the ITV content at the same time as UTVNI Last week they had 5 programmes in the Top 20 overall (All Coronation Street) and a Rare Breed was the most watched Non RTE1 Irish programme for the second week running with 161,000 Viewers (+15 Adults) Their Repeat of Birds of a Feather which cost them almost nothing gets 1113,000 viewers, Red Rock which Cost TV3, 7 million is only getting 133,000 at that same time. Operation Transformation on RTE1 is the winner there with 324,000. Their News is decent but needs to be rescheduled at 6.30. Their 10 O Clock News will work given time. More Irish productions would be nice but I don't know if you'll ever get more than 2 or 3 hours in total a week outside of the News. That was never the purpose of the station. However last week they had a overall share of the Market in Ireland of 5.8. It's basically what they expected at this point (In fact it's slightly ahead of Target) They've been on 5 weeks and each week their audience has grown. |
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Full market breakdown:
RTE One: 19.9% TV3: 7.6% UTV Ireland: 5.8% RTE Two: 4.9% BBC One: 3.6% 3e: 2.6% TG4: 1.7% |
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Utv Ireland will never be able to air all shows at the same time as ITV as ITV pay extra to air some shows which they dont produce themselves before anyone else.
An example of this is Downton Abbey |
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Utv Ireland will never be able to air all shows at the same time as ITV as ITV pay extra to air some shows which they dont produce themselves before anyone else.
An example of this is Downton Abbey No. ITV commission these shows on a contract that gives them UK (at least) first-run rights. When new contracts are let, it would be trivial to extend these rights to a British Isles basis. At the moment I'm stuck in Bruxelles, bemoaning the fact the Belgacom cable doesn't carry ITV. I'd consider Bruxelles to be an Anglia/Meridian overlap! |
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Full market breakdown:
RTE One: 19.9% TV3: 7.6% UTV Ireland: 5.8% RTE Two: 4.9% BBC One: 3.6% 3e: 2.6% TG4: 1.7% |
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For January??
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It would seem only 2,700 people watched Good Morning Britain on UTV Ireland. That is a bit of a disastrous result for them.
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It would seem only 2,700 people watched Good Morning Britain on UTV Ireland. That is a bit of a disastrous result for them.
Taking figures on the first show alone is never wise nor the industry standard. It's only for Press releases. There's a load of rubbish in the papers which people not in the industry are taking seriously. |
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For January??
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/m...ndon-1.2091153 |
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Yes, just the last week - figures from TG4's website, bizarrely. Jeff Ford has left TV3:
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/m...ndon-1.2091153 None of the 3 stations (TV3, UTV and RTE2) are commercially viable on current figures. RTE2 is safe until after the next election if not longer. UTV are prepared for losses up to and beyond 10 million euro over the first 2 years of operation. How much can TV3 lose before it either closes or has to make cut backs? That's the second big Name gone from TV3 in 2 days. One of TV3's Biggest Stars(Their words...Not Mine!) Is leaving as well. Sybil mulcahy http://www.independent.ie/entertainm...-30959008.html To be fair it looks like Sybil jumped while Jeff probably had long conversations about his future. |
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It's not bizarre at all. Looking at the figures that have come out TV3 won't make it to Christmas. They only made an operation profit of a million on About 55 million Turnover in 2013. That's with an audience share of 13.7% ....Their current audience share is only 7.6%. It might hit 8 or 8 and half percent for the year, depending on how well Ireland Do in the World cup.
None of the 3 stations (TV3, UTV and RTE2) are commercially viable on current figures. RTE2 is safe until after the next election if not longer. UTV are prepared for losses up to and beyond 10 million euro over the first 2 years of operation. How much can TV3 lose before it either closes or has to make cut backs? That's the second big Name gone from TV3 in 2 days. One of TV3's Biggest Stars(Their words...Not Mine!) Is leaving as well. Sybil mulcahy http://www.independent.ie/entertainm...-30959008.html To be fair it looks like Sybil jumped while Jeff probably had long conversations about his future. |
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Suspect the only thing keeping RTE Two in existence is the sports coverage - obviously the Championship could be shown on the main channel, but they wouldn't want to keep shifting soaps to suit Champions League or Ireland qualifiers.
It's often said here by some that Irish people love Irish content. I actually agree with this to a point but it has to be decent. Much of the non sport Irish stuff RTE2 puts out is shocking as is 85% of TV3's Irish output and the viewers seem to agree. The pity here is a half decent show (like Red Rock on TV3) is then dragged down with all the other stuff. If Red Rock were on RTE1 it would probably double numbers overnight. It's not a good reflection on the Irish TV industry that Rare Breed is the most watched Irish Programme on Irish Television not on RTE1. (Nothing wrong with the show by the way) |
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Well I think it's a policy that RTE have gone with now for years where RTE1 is the main channel and income earner. A few programmes that were successful on RTE2 have been shifted to RTE1 in the past. The Panel is one that comes to mind almost straight away. The Sports Coverage on RTE2 is good generally and does bring in enough to justify it's existence. Because there's not much else on the station that really matters to the audience they can just drop programmes for weeks with little or no complaint. However if the station was out in the wild it wouldn't survive with it's current scheduling and some awful recent choices.
It's often said here by some that Irish people love Irish content. I actually agree with this to a point but it has to be decent. Much of the non sport Irish stuff RTE2 puts out is shocking as is 85% of TV3's Irish output and the viewers seem to agree. The pity here is a half decent show (like Red Rock on TV3) is then dragged down with all the other stuff. If Red Rock were on RTE1 it would probably double numbers overnight. It's not a good reflection on the Irish TV industry that Rare Breed is the most watched Irish Programme on Irish Television not on RTE1. (Nothing wrong with the show by the way) |
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I watched Rare Breed last week and you know what it was a very good programme especially for us rural folk.. If anything its an indictment of TV3 that UTV can be so successful with a show within 1 month of broadcasting.
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