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Old 04-02-2015, 22:47
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There's nothing wrong with the show at all, I also think it's pretty decent for what it is and for it's target Market. It's a well thought out show. However, it shouldn't in all honesty be the most watched Irish show outside of RTE1. There have been millions of Euro put into the TV3 schedule on New Irish Programmes and almost none of them have worked. Same can be said for RTE2 schedule.
Yes but TV3 have the incredible ability in not knowing how to run a TV station...
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:09
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Rare Breed would always get the ratings because it's inbetween the 2 episodes of Coronation Street. Got to remember that Malcolm in The Middle, Mike And Molly, Saving Ray, Nothing To Declare etc got the same ratings when they were in the same position of 8pm on TV3.

Comparing Ireland AM's 1999 figures with GMB's figures now is laughable. Ireland AM was a brand new area which Ireland never had - breakfast morning TV specifically made for us. For people to switch on the TV instead of the radio was a slow process. But now they have an average of 62,000 viewers daily over 3 hours. That's more that UTVi's entire weekend schedule, and most of their primetime weekday shows - Cilla, The Bletchley Circle etc...
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Old 05-02-2015, 11:26
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Rare Breed would always get the ratings because it's inbetween the 2 episodes of Coronation Street. Got to remember that Malcolm in The Middle, Mike And Molly, Saving Ray, Nothing To Declare etc got the same ratings when they were in the same position of 8pm on TV3.

Comparing Ireland AM's 1999 figures with GMB's figures now is laughable. Ireland AM was a brand new area which Ireland never had - breakfast morning TV specifically made for us. For people to switch on the TV instead of the radio was a slow process. But now they have an average of 62,000 viewers daily over 3 hours. That's more that UTVi's entire weekend schedule, and most of their primetime weekday shows - Cilla, The Bletchley Circle etc...
Indeed you're correct about Rare Breed getting the ratings because it's between 2 episodes of Coronation Street. However, TV3 don't have Coronation Street any More UTV do. It was also pointed out by more than one over the last 12 to 18 months this is exactly what would happen but TV3 (and it's supporters) said that The Lie and Nothing to Declare were strong brands on their own. I think the point has been proven that they weren't (even TV3 agree)

As for Ratings, it would be far fairer to compare Lorainne to Ireland AM. There is no question that Ireland AM is the Market leader at that time of Morning but UTV Ireland have made the decision not to compete at all 18 hours out of a 24 hour Day and they also seem to have put off competing on Saturdays until Britain's Got Talent has finished.

UTV Ireland really adds little to the TV market in Ireland, but no one in the industry is judging them on the first month or indeed the first 6 months. It's the figures this time Next Year that are going to tell the tale. They are prepared for Large losses this year and Next. If they break even on day to day operations in year two they'll regard that as a success.

In the meantime Stations have to stay on the air to compete. Looking at TV3 figures if they don't bring up Primetime audiences soon they won't be around in their current format in 12 months. Having Daytime Programmes in your top twenty is never a good sign and I'm sorry to say to advertisers 63,000 viewers at 9.00 at night are worth a lot more than 63,000 at 9.00 in the morning.

Finally it's better to compare like for like. The 62,000 for Ireland AM is all Viewers and from a press release. The 63,000 for Cilla is over 15 Adults only and actual Figures from Tam Ireland.
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Old 05-02-2015, 15:33
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UTVi have made a decision to only compete between 6.30pm-11pm Monday - Friday while forgetting about the rest of the times outside of that, which won't help it's share.

It's also very easy for them to make a profit in year 2 or 3 if they don't bother creating home produced programming. UTV NI rarely made any type of shows apart travel/nature docs, and I expect UTVi to follow the same way. At least BBC NI produced panel, politics, debate, comedy and music shows alongside their sport coverage.

Their launch has been an absolute shambles. They thought they could breeze in and take the No2 spot straight away and take on RTE1 for No1 - by putting up repeats upon repeats and hoping that the soaps will do the work for them. Their ratings have been terrible outside the soaps and the 2 shows at 8pm on Mon and Fri.

As for being an advertiser, I sure wouldn't be happy if my product was being sold at a primetime hour at 9pm (at a high primetime fee) when the show only has 63,000 viewers for Friday night, and under 56,000 for Wednesday and Thursday nights.
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Old 05-02-2015, 15:59
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UTVi have made a decision to only compete between 6.30pm-11pm Monday - Friday while forgetting about the rest of the times outside of that, which won't help it's share.
Agreed but Overall share last Monday Over the 24 hours UTV still Beat TV3 overall. UTV Ireland got 9.93 and TV3 had 9.58.

In Primetime last Monday 6pm to 11.30pm - UTV Ireland had an audience share of 13.41pc, while TV3's share was 6.9pc.


It's also very easy for them to make a profit in year 2 or 3 if they don't bother creating home produced programming. UTV NI rarely made any type of shows apart travel/nature docs, and I expect UTVi to follow the same way. At least BBC NI produced panel, politics, debate, comedy and music shows alongside their sport coverage.
They will produce Home produced programming but probably not more than 3 or 4 hours a week outside of News. There's nothing wrong with Travel/Nature Docs. TV3 made very little Drama in the previous 17 years. In fact we have to thank UTV for Red Rock. TV3 would never have made it if it had held onto the soaps.

BBC NI and UTV are very different beasts and can't be compared.

Their launch has been an absolute shambles. They thought they could breeze in and take the No2 spot straight away and take on RTE1 for No1 - by putting up repeats upon repeats and hoping that the soaps will do the work for them. Their ratings have been terrible outside the soaps and the 2 shows at 8pm on Mon and Fri.
That's not what they said at all, if you look back at their statements they wanted to be the second most watched Station in the Country by the end of 2015. I have never heard anyone from the station say that they would take on RTE1 for top spot. They planned to be at about 5 percent Share by the end of the first Sixty Days. They're actually ahead of target.

Their Ratings outside of the soaps are nothing to write home about but even repeats of Midsomer Murders and Birds of a Feather appear to beat almost everything TV3 puts out.


As for being an advertiser, I sure wouldn't be happy if my product was being sold at a primetime hour at 9pm (at a high primetime fee) when the show only has 63,000 viewers for Friday night, and under 56,000 for Wednesday and Thursday nights.
Again you're quoting only part figures for those two shows, they're not much higher but from memory Cilla got 81,000 overall. You do know Advertisers don't pay over the odds at primetime? 63,000 viewers at 9,00pm are basically the same as 63,000 viewers at 9.00am... The cost comes in when you look at the make up of the 63,000 viewers. Those that watch Daytime TV don't tend to be as well off. Advertisers pay more for the eyes of those with cash.

Basically it's two awful stations with generally awful Programmes fighting it out. Both Owned by British Companies. The interest here is which will survive.
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Old 11-02-2015, 13:30
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Was watching This Morning today and noticed that Phillip Schofield introduced the itv news. So does UTV Ireland show the ITV news during This Morning
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Old 11-02-2015, 13:42
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Was watching This Morning today and noticed that Phillip Schofield introduced the itv news. So does UTV Ireland show the ITV news during This Morning
From UTV irelands website:
10:55am
UTV Ireland Weather

With this morning sandwiched either side
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Old 14-02-2015, 17:54
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They may have got the cricket because no-one else wanted it, but could have bandwagon potential!

http://www.independent.ie/sport/othe...-30990412.html
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Old 14-02-2015, 18:31
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They may have got the cricket because no-one else wanted it, but could have bandwagon potential!

http://www.independent.ie/sport/othe...-30990412.html
Will it be there own programme or a simulcast of ITV's highlights programme
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Old 14-02-2015, 20:19
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Next Saturday UTV Ireland has the new series on Saturday Night Takeaway

http://www.locatetv.com/tv/ant-and-d...son-12/9043661

while TV3 is airing a repeat of Saturday Night Takeaway from series 10

http://www.locatetv.com/tv/ant-and-d...son-10/7973707
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Old 15-02-2015, 16:08
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Will it be there own programme or a simulcast of ITV's highlights programme
Relaying the ITV feed, it appears. It seems the 6.30 news will be moved back an hour, to go head-to-head with TV3:

http://www.independent.ie/entertainm...-30992620.html
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Old 16-02-2015, 23:40
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Are UTV Ireland showing the Graham Norton Eastenders special
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Old 17-02-2015, 19:02
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Don't know, I'm afraid. RTE Two takes that position in the market share wars this week, presumably due to the Six Nations:

http://www.tg4.ie/ie/production/tg4-viewing.html
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Old 18-02-2015, 12:38
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Next Saturday UTV Ireland has the new series on Saturday Night Takeaway

http://www.locatetv.com/tv/ant-and-d...son-12/9043661

while TV3 is airing a repeat of Saturday Night Takeaway from series 10

http://www.locatetv.com/tv/ant-and-d...son-10/7973707
That's a bit desperate. I remember ITV showing repeats of The Paul O'Grady Show against his new show on Channel 4, but very few people fell for it and within a few days ITV replaced the repeats with something else.
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Old 18-02-2015, 13:01
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That's a bit desperate. I remember ITV showing repeats of The Paul O'Grady Show against his new show on Channel 4, but very few people fell for it and within a few days ITV replaced the repeats with something else.
They seem to have nothing else. Ant and Dec Repeats are still the 4th most popular show on TV3
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Old 18-02-2015, 14:57
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UTV Ireland have announced they have secured the exclusive rights to broadcast Belfast boxer Carl Frampton’s world title defence on February 28. it is also on ITV/UTV


is this the first live sport on the channel ?

http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/oth...ve-662773.html
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Old 18-02-2015, 15:23
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UTV Ireland have announced they have secured the exclusive rights to broadcast Belfast boxer Carl Frampton’s world title defence on February 28. it is also on ITV/UTV


is this the first live sport on the channel ?

http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/oth...ve-662773.html
The question is will they produce there own coverage or use ITV's coverage
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Old 18-02-2015, 15:24
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Yes, only sports highlights previously was the aforementioned cricket, so they're getting killed at weekends.
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Old 18-02-2015, 15:49
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Yes, only sports highlights previously was the aforementioned cricket, so they're getting killed at weekends.
They're not competing at weekends at all. Saturday and Sunday are TV3 best nights with Ant and Dec and The Cube. But will an Irish Audience prefer 2 year old Ant and Dec or a brand new episode on UTV Ireland?

Neither TV3 or UTV Ireland have ratings on Saturday or Sunday that would allow the stations to break even. However, Monday to Friday UTV Ireland Do have The Soaps which are bringing in the audiences. TV3 appear to have almost nothing in primetime that has more than 100,000 viewers Monday to Friday. the exceptions being The Restaurant and Red Rock, but Red Rock has dropped viewers every week since it started and is now only on 102,000 viewers (adults over 15).

The pity here is that Red Rock is not bad at all and would have a chance if it was on RTE or had started a few months earlier on TV3 when Soap Watchers would have gotten used to watching it.
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Old 18-02-2015, 15:50
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The question is will they produce there own coverage or use ITV's coverage
Almost certainly use ITV coverage. UTV Ireland seem to be continuing the tradition of UTV Ulster of spending as little as possible.
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Old 18-02-2015, 16:51
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They're not competing at weekends at all. Saturday and Sunday are TV3 best nights with Ant and Dec and The Cube. But will an Irish Audience prefer 2 year old Ant and Dec or a brand new episode on UTV Ireland?

Neither TV3 or UTV Ireland have ratings on Saturday or Sunday that would allow the stations to break even. However, Monday to Friday UTV Ireland Do have The Soaps which are bringing in the audiences. TV3 appear to have almost nothing in primetime that has more than 100,000 viewers Monday to Friday. the exceptions being The Restaurant and Red Rock, but Red Rock has dropped viewers every week since it started and is now only on 102,000 viewers (adults over 15).

The pity here is that Red Rock is not bad at all and would have a chance if it was on RTE or had started a few months earlier on TV3 when Soap Watchers would have gotten used to watching it.
Just noticed that RTE is lumbered with the FG Ard Fheis this Saturday, so safe to say even reheated SNT will perform better!
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Old 18-02-2015, 17:11
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Just noticed that RTE is lumbered with the FG Ard Fheis this Saturday, so safe to say even reheated SNT will perform better!
Will the new SNT on UTV Ireland not perform better
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Old 18-02-2015, 17:13
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Just noticed that RTE is lumbered with the FG Ard Fheis this Saturday, so safe to say even reheated SNT will perform better!
Well It's a repeat of the Cube on TV3 at that stage, that should easily beat Enda. However, UTV Ireland are showing their Bargain Bin 101 ways to Leave a Gameshow. Tough Choice between that and the FG Ard Fheis, (and the Ard Fheis would win my vote)
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Old 18-02-2015, 17:16
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Will the new SNT on UTV Ireland not perform better
SNT on UTV Ireland will be the show to beat in a week or two. There will be confusion this Saturday and next. The SKY EPG placing is doing UTV Ireland no favours plus those that watch on Saorview also have to get into the habit of pressing 6. People I work with are still turning on 3 on their Saorview sets expecting Emmerdale and remembering at 7.05 it's now 6 they should be on.
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Old 18-02-2015, 17:18
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Quick question regarding RTE it seems on Thursday that RTE 1 isnt showing the 9.30 pm ep of Eastenders and are instead showing it on Friday at 7.30 before the live. Is this to beat UTV Ireland as they have corrie at 7.30 pm
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