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Hollyoaks daily 19/09
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ChelseaEllie
19-08-2014
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“I may be the only one but I find Peri's near complete acceptance of Cameron completely unbelievable. Not that there is any proof he dove the van or anything, but Sam and Danny died trying to get away from him. He destroyed the funeral flowers today. I know he is her bio-dad but come on.”

I'm totally with you, he's a stranger who just appeared in her life and was much of the reason her parents died
trevon1
19-08-2014
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“I may be the only one but I find Peri's near complete acceptance of Cameron completely unbelievable. Not that there is any proof he dove the van or anything, but Sam and Danny died trying to get away from him. He destroyed the funeral flowers today. I know he is her bio-dad but come on.”

Well, it's Hollyoaks. They are not going to waste time actually developing a relationship.
Emma_Henvey
19-08-2014
Originally Posted by trevon1:
“Well, it's Hollyoaks. They are not going to waste time actually developing a relationship.”


True. It's too much work for them.
sderr123
19-08-2014
Originally Posted by trevon1:
“Well, it's Hollyoaks. They are not going to waste time actually developing a relationship.”

Oh I know, but the fact that Peri can remember to be angry about JP and Danny's affair, but doesn't seem to understand Cameron's arrival is tied to her parents death is annoying.

That and Freddie still being around. His blank expression just gets me down.
Jingle Jangle
19-08-2014
Sam and Danny died because of what Sam did. She's the one who sent an innocent boy to prison for 14 years. What did she expect when he got out? For him to disappear as if nothing had happened?

And then when Cameron found out he had a child and wanted to hang around to be near her and Leela, and why not, he's got no-one else after spending so long in prison and we know his mother's dead, Sam's solution isn't to try and make reparation for the terrible wrongdoing she has done, but she threatens him some more and then decides to run away to the other side of the world with his child.

I really don't see how anyone could reasonably blame Cameron for their deaths. Unless he drove the van, of course.
sderr123
19-08-2014
Originally Posted by Jingle Jangle:
“Sam and Danny died because of what Sam did. She's the one who sent an innocent boy to prison for 14 years. What did she expect when he got out? For him to disappear as if nothing had happened?

And then when Cameron found out he had a child and wanted to hang around to be near her and Leela, and why not, he's got no-one else after spending so long in prison and we know his mother's dead, Sam's solution isn't to try and make reparation for the terrible wrongdoing she has done, but she threatens him some more and then decides to run away to the other side of the world with his child.

I really don't see how anyone could reasonably blame Cameron for their deaths. Unless he drove the van, of course.”

I didn't say he drove the van. I would think that from Peri's perspective one day she knows who her parents are, the next day they are fleeing to New Zealand to escape from Cameron. She finds out her parents are not her parents, she runs away. In their attempt to find her and escape Cameron from Sam and Danny die. Now if it were me it would take more than I am really your biological father for me to warm up to Cameron.
Jingle Jangle
19-08-2014
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“I didn't say he drove the van. I would think that from Peri's perspective one day she knows who her parents are, the next day they are fleeing to New Zealand to escape from Cameron. She finds out her parents are not her parents, she runs away. In their attempt to find her and escape Cameron from Sam and Danny die. Now if it were me it would take more than I am really your biological father for me to warm up to Cameron.”

Sorry, I wasn't being clear. I wasn't suggesting you said he drove the van and I was posting generally about Cameron, not specifically your post. Actually, I agree that from Peri's young and naive perspective Cameron's arrival has been bad news. Leela and Tegan really need to sit her down and have a good chat explaining things without smearing Sam's name in the mud. Tough job.

But from a viewer's perspective, I don't know how anyone could blame Cameron.
mrbernay
19-08-2014
In any case it was not really a hit and run. Sam and Danny pulled out into the traffic and the van couldn't avoid them. If Cameron was driving he couldn't be charged with anything.... except not reporting an accident....
pudge2
19-08-2014
Originally Posted by mrbernay:
“In any case it was not really a hit and run. Sam and Danny pulled out into the traffic and the van couldn't avoid them. If Cameron was driving he couldn't be charged with anything.... except not reporting an accident....”

Hit and run; the crime of a driver of a vehicle who is involved in a collision with another vehicle, property or human being, who knowingly fails to stop to give his/her name, license number, and other information as required by statute to the injured party, a witness, or law enforcement officers.

The 'after credits' scene made a point to show the van speeding away after the accident.

It seems as though you see a hit and run like gunning into someone on the pavement in Grand Theft Auto...
Ramo1234
20-08-2014
Originally Posted by ChelseaEllie:
“I'm totally with you, he's a stranger who just appeared in her life and was much of the reason her parents died”

Indeed, the whole show is a joke and totally unbelievable but again it's like a guilty pleasure.
dublintvfan
20-08-2014
the evidence is nothing though a letter that could of been typed by god knows who and yes thats a bullet that came from the tree but that just proves that she removed it and left there is no solid evidence that could tie her to the murder.... But kirkwood needs freddie so who needs realism...
lulu g
20-08-2014
Originally Posted by Emma_Henvey:
“At least a dead person was framed and not an person in the village. I don't how many innocent people have been in jail this year alone.”

More to the point, at least the person who was framed had herself framed an innocent boy. Hard on her family, though.
Anna_W
20-08-2014
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“Oh I know, but the fact that Peri can remember to be angry about JP and Danny's affair, but doesn't seem to understand Cameron's arrival is tied to her parents death is annoying.

That and Freddie still being around. His blank expression just gets me down.”

This.
decobelle
20-08-2014
Originally Posted by trevon1:
“ Sounds about right. I'm sure he would've had his mouth open while writing that as well.”

I imagine him with his tongue sticking out of the side of his mouth.
Iclabon
20-08-2014
Originally Posted by Jingle Jangle:
“Sorry, I wasn't being clear. I wasn't suggesting you said he drove the van and I was posting generally about Cameron, not specifically your post. Actually, I agree that from Peri's young and naive perspective Cameron's arrival has been bad news. Leela and Tegan really need to sit her down and have a good chat explaining things without smearing Sam's name in the mud. Tough job.

But from a viewer's perspective, I don't know how anyone could blame Cameron.”

This.

I'm laughing, because people are trying to twist it around that Peri should be upset at Cameron just because they're upset about her bitching at JP.

It's not like there's any realistic continuity from episode to episode, because if there was, JP and the Lomaxs would be avoiding each other like the plague, so what does it even matter she snapped at him once.
lady_xanax
20-08-2014
I can see why Peri might bond with Cameron as her family have lied to her her whole life and she wants someone to support her as the rest of the family are wrapped up in grief.

Also, because she was the one to discover Danny and JP together- which Danny blamed on her tumour- no wonder she's looking for a more reliable father figure.
Emma_Henvey
20-08-2014
Originally Posted by lady_xanax:
“I can see why Peri might bond with Cameron as her family have lied to her her whole life and she wants someone to support her as the rest of the family are wrapped up in grief.

Also, because she was the one to discover Danny and JP together- which Danny blamed on her tumour- no wonder she's looking for a more reliable father figure.”

I agree, Danny was hardly father of the year. I really hated Danny when he tried to use Peri's brain tumor to cover his affair. That was really low of him.
Emma_Henvey
20-08-2014
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“More to the point, at least the person who was framed had herself framed an innocent boy. Hard on her family, though.”

I agree, Karma's a bitch although I'd rather have everyone think the sun shines out of Sam's ass than see Freddie on my screen
lady_xanax
20-08-2014
Originally Posted by Emma_Henvey:
“I agree, Danny was hardly father of the year. I really hated Danny when he tried to use Peri's brain tumor to cover his affair. That was really low of him.”

He joins Freddie in the cowardly morally despicable gang.
Emma_Henvey
20-08-2014
Originally Posted by lady_xanax:
“He joins Freddie in the cowardly morally despicable gang.”

I agree
sderr123
20-08-2014
Ok Danny was hardly father of the year, it still does not make sense sorry. Why does Peri think Cameron is the person she can confide about Sam too? Its not just like Cameron was only slightly related to the events that led Sam and Danny's death. It was bang you over the head blatant that they were fleeing form Cameron, that Cameron was going to ruin there family and so forth. That was said over and over in the episodes leading up to their death. Why is that forgotten so quickly.
lady_xanax
20-08-2014
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“Ok Danny was hardly father of the year, it still does not make sense sorry. Why does Peri think Cameron is the person she can confide about Sam too? Its not just like Cameron was only slightly related to the events that led Sam and Danny's death. It was bang you over the head blatant that they were fleeing form Cameron, that Cameron was going to ruin there family and so forth. That was said over and over in the episodes leading up to their death. Why is that forgotten so quickly.”

Well, she's hanging out with Cameron to spite Leela. By staying with the Lomaxes, she'd eventually have to accept Leela as her mother. And if she tried to stay with Tom, the Osbornes would send her back.
Multimedia81
20-08-2014
Originally Posted by winter99:
“Actually, if Sandy doesn't go down for Fraser's murder then I can see either Danny or Sam being frammed.

And what's with the Lomaxes and their inability for pronounces someone's full name? "Pez", "Lee", "Cam", "Tegs". ”

Even the names Danny and sam were of course abbreviations for Daniel and Samantha,

Originally Posted by Reo:
“What a joke! And it is on us for putting up with this.

I can't believe they even thought of doing this. Just get rid of Freddie! No-one likes him.

Thankfully there is still the recording and I really hope that Sandy wouldn't let a dead woman take the blame and have the Lomax children suffer even more. There is also the fact (although maybe too CSI and less HOs) that they would be able to tell that the ink was fresh and couldn't have possibly been written by Sam weeks ago.

Also what is going on with the flower/fish shop? Does Trevor still own it, why has it gone back to flowers when he got rid of them all months ago? And even if the Lomax don't call the police on Cameron, the owner (whoever that is) would for the damage caused.”

Indeed, and nobody who knows - Lindsey, Mercedes or Sandy - have played the recording to the Police.

Originally Posted by lady_xanax:
“Well, she's hanging out with Cameron to spite Leela. By staying with the Lomaxes, she'd eventually have to accept Leela as her mother. And if she tried to stay with Tom, the Osbornes would send her back.”

I think that, in so far as Peri believes Cameron and Leela are telling the truth about being her real parents, she nevertheless misses Danny and Sam, and is annoyed by Leela going along with the lie, even thought it will have been Danny and Sam's decision all along. At lease Cameron was never on the scene so could not have told Peri the truth (and of course never knew her anyway).

Leela has become a bit bossy towards Peri anyway, and Leela and Tegan not categorically ruling out Sam as Fraser's murderer has saddened and sickened Peri.
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