DS Forums

 
 

EastEnders - The destruction of Ian Beale


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 22-08-2014, 12:39
james_killroy
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 1,180

Last year Lorraine Newman was criticized and right so for her destruction of soap icon Sharon Watts. Well DTC is no better. While Ian has always been a difficult character to like the current story of him wanting to send an old man into a care home just to keep his dirty skank secret is a new low even for him.

Any sympathy I had for him over Lucy's murder is now gone and I suspect many other viewers feel the same way. So if we don't feel sorry for the characters connected why should we even care who killed her?

Unless Ian is redeemed and fast this story will prove to be a waste of time and effort.
james_killroy is offline   Reply With Quote
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 22-08-2014, 13:16
The Rhydler
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,220
They writers are ****ing idiots, best character development for Ian in ages and they have him sleep with a ****ing hooker. Know why? Because they want to shift the attention off of Denise having sucked face with a boy twenty years younger than herself and put it onto Ian so of course, Denise can be 'disgusted' at Ian when the big reveal happens and any mention of her own cheating will cease to be. Not to mention the fact that she doesn't want to be with him anyway.
The Rhydler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 13:19
lou_123
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 7,918
Last year Lorraine Newman was criticized and right so for her destruction of soap icon Sharon Watts. Well DTC is no better. While Ian has always been a difficult character to like the current story of him wanting to send an old man into a care home just to keep his dirty skank secret is a new low even for him.

Any sympathy I had for him over Lucy's murder is now gone and I suspect many other viewers feel the same way. So if we don't feel sorry for the characters connected why should we even care who killed her?

Unless Ian is redeemed and fast this story will prove to be a waste of time and effort.
Any chance you got this off that mans video? na you're right though, and I'm glad someone agrees, it's an absolutely pathetic story, EE has gone to the dogs this summer it's an utter joke, they think were stupid, er hellooo? Going on like we haven't seen stella Crawford jump of a building on her wedding day, and like we haven't seen phil mitchell on crack, and burn down the vic, and stacey slater jump on coffins, it's a joke! no better than LN, let's hope autumns better!
lou_123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 13:23
lou_123
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 7,918
They writers are ****ing idiots, best character development for Ian in ages and they have him sleep with a ****ing hooker. Know why? Because they want to shift the attention off of Denise having sucked face with a boy twenty years younger than herself and put it onto Ian so of course, Denise can be 'disgusted' at Ian when the big reveal happens and any mention of her own cheating will cease to be. Not to mention the fact that she doesn't want to be with him anyway.
The writers are DUMB! I miss the good old writers and I don't know where they are, I just hope these current ones have got some brilliant stuff coming up! my 7 year old sister writes better stories than the people of elstree! Let's hope there's a jane and ian reunion out of all this! Adam and Laurie work brilliantly together!
lou_123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 13:42
vald
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 30,972
This is nothing new for Ian. He's the man who lied about his daughter having cancer to get Mel to marry him. The man who slept with Janine and Glenda when he was married...he paid them both and then treated them like sh!t. He chose the slapper Mandy over his daughter, throwing her out of the house and leaving her homeless.

This is nothing to do with making Denise look good. It's about how people don't turn into saints the minute they're hit with such a tragedy. Ian was always a weasel is still a weasel.

As for Jane....she had every good reason to leave him, he treated her like an unpaid servant and even tried to cheat her out of anything she was entitled to when they divorced.
vald is offline Follow this poster on Twitter   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 13:47
radcliffe95
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 3,932
I think it's perfectly normal what he's doing. Why would he want to lumber himself with a stroke victim he's not even related to?
radcliffe95 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 13:55
LA2UK
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Kent
Posts: 134
I think it's perfectly normal what he's doing. Why would he want to lumber himself with a stroke victim he's not even related to?
It's not even like Denise is actually related to Patrick, too
LA2UK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 13:57
The Rhydler
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,220
As for Jane....she had every good reason to leave him, he treated her like an unpaid servant and even tried to cheat her out of anything she was entitled to when they divorced.
Oh well, least she's taken his son who isn't hers.
The Rhydler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 14:07
vald
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 30,972
Oh well, least she's taken his son who isn't hers.
She adopted him legally. It's not as if Ian could be bothered with him....without Lucy to do all the school runs he was a bit stuck.
vald is offline Follow this poster on Twitter   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 14:13
starry_rune
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 5,654
This is nothing new for Ian. He's the man who lied about his daughter having cancer to get Mel to marry him. The man who slept with Janine and Glenda when he was married...he paid them both and then treated them like sh!t. He chose the slapper Mandy over his daughter, throwing her out of the house and leaving her homeless.

This is nothing to do with making Denise look good. It's about how people don't turn into saints the minute they're hit with such a tragedy. Ian was always a weasel is still a weasel.

As for Jane....she had every good reason to leave him, he treated her like an unpaid servant and even tried to cheat her out of anything she was entitled to when they divorced.
Brilliant post! Some people have amnesia on here, You left out conning auntie Pauline out her money years ago too!
starry_rune is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 14:17
radcliffe95
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 3,932
She adopted him legally. It's not as if Ian could be bothered with him....without Lucy to do all the school runs he was a bit stuck.
Another pointless kid, whereby it's much easier to write them out when they become and inconvenience.
radcliffe95 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 14:20
BringBackZsaZsa
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 301
Last year Lorraine Newman was criticized and right so for her destruction of soap icon Sharon Watts. Well DTC is no better. While Ian has always been a difficult character to like the current story of him wanting to send an old man into a care home just to keep his dirty skank secret is a new low even for him.

Any sympathy I had for him over Lucy's murder is now gone and I suspect many other viewers feel the same way. So if we don't feel sorry for the characters connected why should we even care who killed her?

Unless Ian is redeemed and fast this story will prove to be a waste of time and effort.
I am sorry but this post is foolish. The destruction of Sharon by Lorraine Newman was because Sharon's character was transformed into a sidewoman. She was given shit storylines, had that ridiculous thing with Jack and Phil and was completely out of character. It's taken almost 2 years to bring back Sharon. As for Ian, this is not the destruction of his character - this is Ian. Ian is a tragic character because he is essentially a good man but makes mistakes and ends up making things even worse in order to try and correct these mistakes. He's been like that for over 20 years - this is Ian at his best!
BringBackZsaZsa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 14:24
0...0
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: I like to singy singy singy...
Posts: 17,646
I do agree with Val and Starry Rune, it's all entirely in character for Ian. The weaselly self serving lies and spiraling desperation to keep a woman goes back all the way to Mel. Also he wasn't averse to buying the Vic from Chrissie behind his best friend's back all those years ago.
Don't remember the stealing from Pauline?

Isn't that the whole point of Ian though? He's the weasel we sympathise with as his weaselling always backfires. Edit - and with Zsa Zsa above but maybe not so bluntly!
0...0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 14:33
Broken_Arrow
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Suck it
Posts: 7,764
I agree it's in character but my sympathy has run out. Stuff him and stuff his bitch of a daughter and prat of a son. The Beales have become more morally depraved than the Brannings.
Broken_Arrow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 14:34
vald
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 30,972
I agree it's in character but my sympathy has run out. Stuff him and stuff his bitch of a daughter and prat of a son. The Beales have become more morally depraved than the Brannings.
*claps*
vald is offline Follow this poster on Twitter   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 14:37
0...0
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: I like to singy singy singy...
Posts: 17,646
I agree it's in character but my sympathy has run out. Stuff him and stuff his bitch of a daughter and prat of a son. The Beales have become more morally depraved than the Brannings.
Haha Its a good job they didn't let you read the eulogy.
0...0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 14:43
Broken_Arrow
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Suck it
Posts: 7,764
Haha Its a good job they didn't let you read the eulogy.
Lol
Broken_Arrow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 14:45
Dr K Noisewater
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 6,729
This is nothing new for Ian. He's the man who lied about his daughter having cancer to get Mel to marry him. The man who slept with Janine and Glenda when he was married...he paid them both and then treated them like sh!t. He chose the slapper Mandy over his daughter, throwing her out of the house and leaving her homeless.

This is nothing to do with making Denise look good. It's about how people don't turn into saints the minute they're hit with such a tragedy. Ian was always a weasel is still a weasel.

As for Jane....she had every good reason to leave him, he treated her like an unpaid servant and even tried to cheat her out of anything she was entitled to when they divorced.
Ian may have done some questionable things over the years but you cannot blame him for the breakdown of his and Jane's marriage. Jane behaved appallingly and far worse than Ian in 2010 during her personality transplant. It all started when Lucy fell pregnant and Jane manipulated her into keeping the baby despite the fact Lucy clearly wasn't ready. Jane planned to adopt the baby and Ian quite rightly didn't want to put his daughter through such an ordeal so took her for an abortion. The whole twisted arrangement was born from Janes selfish desire to have a child of her own. When Jane learned about the abortion she planned to leave Ian and fleece him out of all of his money, the money he had earned from building his business up and also with 3 children to support. It was at this time that she began an affair with Masood, not the first time she had cheated on Ian either. Ian may then have slept with Glenda but it was only in response to Jane's cheating because he felt hurt and betrayed. Ian might not have behaved perfectly but Jane was by far the more vindictive of the two at this time.
Dr K Noisewater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 14:50
vald
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 30,972
Ian may have done some questionable things over the years but you cannot blame him for the breakdown of his and Jane's marriage. Jane behaved appallingly and far worse than Ian in 2010 during her personality transplant. It all started when Lucy fell pregnant and Jane manipulated her into keeping the baby despite the fact Lucy clearly wasn't ready. Jane planned to adopt the baby and Ian quite rightly didn't want to put his daughter through such an ordeal so took her for an abortion. The whole twisted arrangement was born from Janes selfish desire to have a child of her own. When Jane learned about the abortion she planned to leave Ian and fleece him out of all of his money, the money he had earned from building his business up and also with 3 children to support. It was at this time that she began an affair with Masood, not the first time she had cheated on Ian either. Ian may then have slept with Glenda but it was only in response to Jane's cheating because he felt hurt and betrayed. Ian might not have behaved perfectly but Jane was by far the more vindictive of the two at this time.
Oh I didn't think much of Jane either. There were faults on both sides TBF.
vald is offline Follow this poster on Twitter   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 14:54
0...0
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: I like to singy singy singy...
Posts: 17,646
To be fair to Jane Ian's 'son' had shot her a couple of years prior meaning that she couldn't have children of her own. That does tend to drive a woman a little bit loopy. Just ask Ronnie!
0...0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 15:03
Hankshaw
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,889
As for Jane....she had every good reason to leave him, he treated her like an unpaid servant and even tried to cheat her out of anything she was entitled to when they divorced.
Or she married the boss and became part of the family business.

She adopted him legally. It's not as if Ian could be bothered with him....without Lucy to do all the school runs he was a bit stuck.
She gleefully skipped out of Walford the first time to live hundreds of miles away. Any responsibility of being his legal parent didn't bother her then.
Hankshaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 15:05
Chris Mark
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Digital Spy init.
Posts: 4,677
To be fair to Jane Ian's 'son' had shot her a couple of years prior meaning that she couldn't have children of her own. That does tend to drive a woman a little bit loopy. Just ask Ronnie!
Ronnie is a misunderstood angel. I say give all the children of Walford to her.
Chris Mark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 15:09
Broken_Arrow
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Suck it
Posts: 7,764
Jane is terrible. I don't understand why people see her as this angelic motherly type figure. She's a horrible mother to Bobby and a dreadful wife/partner. She's smug, selfish, obnoxious, arrogant, greedy and a liar. She and Ian deserve each other not because they deserve happinesss but because they deserve to make each other miserable for the rest of their lives
Broken_Arrow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 15:38
benbenalen
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Albert Square
Posts: 10,674
Just Ian being Ian,

I liked his one day friendship with Carol, hope that comes back!
Is Phil going to bully him again one day? Yes?

then how the heck has Walford changed forever?
benbenalen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2014, 15:53
Marcus_Smith
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,461
Is it true Ian leave the square in early September for 4 weeks?
Marcus_Smith is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply




 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 20:44.