Originally Posted by BringBackZsaZsa:
“You for real? Ben Hardy is from Waltham Forest!!”
“You for real? Ben Hardy is from Waltham Forest!!”
I think he was born in Dorset?
Peter Beale has GOT to go!
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I've gone from really liking him in 2013 to completely hating him in 2014. If he returned to how he used to be before DTC got his hands on him I'd probably like him again but I think that's unlikely now. I doubt the actor will be the last to play the role so I suppose it's a waiting game until he quits and is given a new head along with a new personality to go with it.
I personally don't see Ian's branch of the Beales as the future of EastEnders. They're all horrible people. Get Martin Fowler back in that house and forget the Beales. They always played 2nd fiddle to the Fowlers anyway. I'd also hold onto Sharon for dear life. She's the only sympathetic original character of a certain age left. Stuff Beale The Squeal. He's repulsive.
I personally don't see Ian's branch of the Beales as the future of EastEnders. They're all horrible people. Get Martin Fowler back in that house and forget the Beales. They always played 2nd fiddle to the Fowlers anyway. I'd also hold onto Sharon for dear life. She's the only sympathetic original character of a certain age left. Stuff Beale The Squeal. He's repulsive.
Originally Posted by glasgow67:
“Hes got too much of a snobby posh accent he sticks out like a sore thumb. Look at Max, Mick and family, Jay, Lauren, Cat, Bianca, Alfie etc then him, his accents like he was brought up in a Castle.
Surely an actor should play an accent too, meant to be born and brought up in East London but speaking like the queens butler.”
“Hes got too much of a snobby posh accent he sticks out like a sore thumb. Look at Max, Mick and family, Jay, Lauren, Cat, Bianca, Alfie etc then him, his accents like he was brought up in a Castle.
Surely an actor should play an accent too, meant to be born and brought up in East London but speaking like the queens butler.”
He doesn't sound posh to me. Ian speaks quite well, Lucy certainly did. They don't sound quite like their neighbours but that isn't unusual at all.
Remember (the character) Janine, she was extremely well spoken and never received any criticism for that to my knowledge.
He's a good actor.
Originally Posted by Broken_Arrow:
“I've gone from really liking him in 2013 to completely hating him in 2014. If he returned to how he used to be before DTC got his hands on him I'd probably like him again but I think that's unlikely now. I doubt the actor will be the last to play the role so I suppose it's a waiting game until he quits and is given a new head along with a new personality to go with it.
I personally don't see Ian's branch of the Beales as the future of EastEnders. They're all horrible people. Get Martin Fowler back in that house and forget the Beales. They always played 2nd fiddle to the Fowlers anyway. I'd also hold onto Sharon for dear life. She's the only sympathetic original character of a certain age left. Stuff Beale The Squeal. He's repulsive.”
“I've gone from really liking him in 2013 to completely hating him in 2014. If he returned to how he used to be before DTC got his hands on him I'd probably like him again but I think that's unlikely now. I doubt the actor will be the last to play the role so I suppose it's a waiting game until he quits and is given a new head along with a new personality to go with it.
I personally don't see Ian's branch of the Beales as the future of EastEnders. They're all horrible people. Get Martin Fowler back in that house and forget the Beales. They always played 2nd fiddle to the Fowlers anyway. I'd also hold onto Sharon for dear life. She's the only sympathetic original character of a certain age left. Stuff Beale The Squeal. He's repulsive.”
The Beale's need to be in Eastenders IMO. Have you ever liked Ian?
Originally Posted by Mormon Girl:
“The Beale's need to be in Eastenders IMO. Have you ever liked Ian?”
“The Beale's need to be in Eastenders IMO. Have you ever liked Ian?”
I didn't say they should be written out but there's far too much importance placed on them. The Fowlers were the heart of that family. Lou Beale was esentially part of the Fowler family dynamic while Pete, Kathy and Ian lived away from the square and all went their separate ways early on in the series when the Beales marriage ended. The Fowlers kept EastEnders housed in reality and were the grounding force of the series. Not the Beales. Anything retconned to the contrary is simply lip service being payed to Adam Woodyatt because he's the only remaining member of the orginal cast who has never left. The Fowlers should not be downplayed for the sake of Ian Beale.
I have liked Ian at times but I very much doubt I'll like him again after the stuff he's pulled lately with Patrick and Mick.
Its a shame EastEnders didn't use their heads and have a son of Mark's turn up in the 00s. He spent a long time away in the 80s. Its perfectly plausible he could have fathered a child without knowing. That would have been an ideal way of giving the family a new member. Too late now. A 16/17/18 year old son of Mark turning up in 2005/2006 instead of Pauline marrying Joe might have made Wendy stay for a few more years or even until her death.
Originally Posted by Broken_Arrow;74413446[B:
“]I didn't say they should be written out [/b]but there's far too much importance placed on them. The Fowlers were the heart of that family. Lou Beale was esentially part of the Fowler family dynamic while Pete, Kathy and Ian lived away from the square and all went their separate ways early on in the series when the Beales marriage ended. The Fowlers kept EastEnders housed in reality and were the grounding force of the series. Not the Beales. Anything retconned to the contrary is simply lip service being payed to Adam Woodyatt because he's the only remaining member of the orginal cast who has never left. The Fowlers should not be downplayed for the sake of Ian Beale.
I have liked Ian at times but I very much doubt I'll like him again after the stuff he's pulled lately with Patrick and Mick.”
“]I didn't say they should be written out [/b]but there's far too much importance placed on them. The Fowlers were the heart of that family. Lou Beale was esentially part of the Fowler family dynamic while Pete, Kathy and Ian lived away from the square and all went their separate ways early on in the series when the Beales marriage ended. The Fowlers kept EastEnders housed in reality and were the grounding force of the series. Not the Beales. Anything retconned to the contrary is simply lip service being payed to Adam Woodyatt because he's the only remaining member of the orginal cast who has never left. The Fowlers should not be downplayed for the sake of Ian Beale.
I have liked Ian at times but I very much doubt I'll like him again after the stuff he's pulled lately with Patrick and Mick.”
BIB. Sorry I thought you meant that, Maybe Susan Tully and James will return as Martin and Michelle and maybe Vicki will return one day. I thought Scarlett was a good actress. Do you like Phil do you hate him because he hasn't told Denise the truth and he also made Ruby lose her virginity and he has done some other bad things as well like covering up Heather's murder.
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“Its a shame EastEnders didn't use their heads and have a son of Mark's turn up in the 00s. He spent a long time away in the 80s. Its perfectly plausible he could have fathered a child without knowing. That would have been an ideal way of giving the family a new member. Too late now. A 16/17/18 year old son of Mark turning up in 2005/2006 instead of Pauline marrying Joe might have made Wendy stay for a few more years or even until her death.”
“Its a shame EastEnders didn't use their heads and have a son of Mark's turn up in the 00s. He spent a long time away in the 80s. Its perfectly plausible he could have fathered a child without knowing. That would have been an ideal way of giving the family a new member. Too late now. A 16/17/18 year old son of Mark turning up in 2005/2006 instead of Pauline marrying Joe might have made Wendy stay for a few more years or even until her death.”
Great idea, or don't kill Mark off in the first place.
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“Its a shame EastEnders didn't use their heads and have a son of Mark's turn up in the 00s. He spent a long time away in the 80s. Its perfectly plausible he could have fathered a child without knowing. That would have been an ideal way of giving the family a new member. Too late now. A 16/17/18 year old son of Mark turning up in 2005/2006 instead of Pauline marrying Joe might have made Wendy stay for a few more years or even until her death.”
“Its a shame EastEnders didn't use their heads and have a son of Mark's turn up in the 00s. He spent a long time away in the 80s. Its perfectly plausible he could have fathered a child without knowing. That would have been an ideal way of giving the family a new member. Too late now. A 16/17/18 year old son of Mark turning up in 2005/2006 instead of Pauline marrying Joe might have made Wendy stay for a few more years or even until her death.”
They never seemed to want to expand that family for some reason. All the Fowlers left one by one never to be replaced. I still forget Pauline isn't in it anymore sometimes
Originally Posted by Broken_Arrow:
“I've gone from really liking him in 2013 to completely hating him in 2014. If he returned to how he used to be before DTC got his hands on him I'd probably like him again but I think that's unlikely now. I doubt the actor will be the last to play the role so I suppose it's a waiting game until he quits and is given a new head along with a new personality to go with it.
I personally don't see Ian's branch of the Beales as the future of EastEnders. They're all horrible people. Get Martin Fowler back in that house and forget the Beales. They always played 2nd fiddle to the Fowlers anyway. I'd also hold onto Sharon for dear life. She's the only sympathetic original character of a certain age left. Stuff Beale The Squeal. He's repulsive.”
“I've gone from really liking him in 2013 to completely hating him in 2014. If he returned to how he used to be before DTC got his hands on him I'd probably like him again but I think that's unlikely now. I doubt the actor will be the last to play the role so I suppose it's a waiting game until he quits and is given a new head along with a new personality to go with it.
I personally don't see Ian's branch of the Beales as the future of EastEnders. They're all horrible people. Get Martin Fowler back in that house and forget the Beales. They always played 2nd fiddle to the Fowlers anyway. I'd also hold onto Sharon for dear life. She's the only sympathetic original character of a certain age left. Stuff Beale The Squeal. He's repulsive.”
Completely agree with this 100%
Originally Posted by Broken_Arrow:
“They never seemed to want to expand that family for some reason. All the Fowlers left one by one never to be replaced. I still forget Pauline isn't in it anymore sometimes”
“They never seemed to want to expand that family for some reason. All the Fowlers left one by one never to be replaced. I still forget Pauline isn't in it anymore sometimes
”
The Great Irish Family Disaster probably put them off!
Originally Posted by 0...0:
“The Great Irish Family Disaster probably put them off!”
“The Great Irish Family Disaster probably put them off!
”
This is probably it. If that hadn't of been such a cock up I reckon most of them would have come over eventually to join Pauline in Walford.
I don't think he's a terrible actor/character nor one dimensional. I think he has a lot of potential, the actor hasn't exactly been there for very long and it's not like he's introduced a new character either so it's not an easy role to play. I think peter should continue in the show. People complain about snivelling characters but it would be boring if we didn't have these kinds of characters in the show. I think Peters very borderline on this. He could go either way.
Originally Posted by 0...0:
“The Great Irish Family Disaster probably put them off!”
“The Great Irish Family Disaster probably put them off!
”
I had successfully blocked that out again after being reminded of it earlier this year. What were they thinking?
Originally Posted by Broken_Arrow:
“I had successfully blocked that out again after being reminded of it earlier this year. What were they thinking?”
“I had successfully blocked that out again after being reminded of it earlier this year. What were they thinking?
”
I honestly don't know!
Another aspiring weasel with his brains in his trousers. A thorough toecapping and things should be fine in the square.
His acting ability is about 5/10, not 1/10. So he's medium, not "terrible".
And of course he is extremely gorgeous as a muscular handsome hunk, so it doesn't matter that he's not a brilliant actor.
And of course he is extremely gorgeous as a muscular handsome hunk, so it doesn't matter that he's not a brilliant actor.
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“Its a shame EastEnders didn't use their heads and have a son of Mark's turn up in the 00s. He spent a long time away in the 80s. Its perfectly plausible he could have fathered a child without knowing. That would have been an ideal way of giving the family a new member. Too late now. A 16/17/18 year old son of Mark turning up in 2005/2006 instead of Pauline marrying Joe might have made Wendy stay for a few more years or even until her death.”
“Its a shame EastEnders didn't use their heads and have a son of Mark's turn up in the 00s. He spent a long time away in the 80s. Its perfectly plausible he could have fathered a child without knowing. That would have been an ideal way of giving the family a new member. Too late now. A 16/17/18 year old son of Mark turning up in 2005/2006 instead of Pauline marrying Joe might have made Wendy stay for a few more years or even until her death.”
Ah man that would have been great! they could perhaps still do that but without Pauline and Mark that means Martin would need to be around for it to work.
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