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Old 23-08-2014, 22:16
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I'd much sooner have BB only , there's also a choice of VOIP providers who are considerably cheaper if you need a phone number.
There maybe a choice of VOIP providers that are cheaper but you still need a phone line and pay line rental to the likes of BT.

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Old 24-08-2014, 00:30
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It's going up double that for line rental saver though. Up to £159.84 from £141. An increase of 13.4%.
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Old 24-08-2014, 07:55
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It's going up double that for line rental saver though. Up to £159.84 from £141. An increase of 13.4%.
It was increased earlier this year to £159.84 and will be £169.90 from 01/12/2014 - a 6.49% increase

http://www.productsandservices.bt.co...?topicId=31936

Line rental will increase from £15.99 a month to £16.99 a month.

Line Rental Saver will increase from £159.84 to £169.90.

Friends & Family International will increase from £1.15 to £1.20.

International Freedom will increase from £5.85 to £6.20
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Calling Features will increase to £3.70 (1 feature), £7.45 (2-4 features) or £9.95 (5 features).

Set up fee for landline calls will increase from 15p to 15.97p.

Call price per minute for landline calls will increase from 9p to 9.58p.

Internet packages are also going up between £1 - £1.25 per month
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Old 24-08-2014, 08:56
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It was increased earlier this year to £159.84 and will be £169.90 from 01/12/2014 - a 6.49% increase

http://www.productsandservices.bt.co...?topicId=31936
Now I'm confused.

I was going by this thread posted last week:-

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1999128

with this link:-

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/6...-talktalk.html

"BT Consumer has increased its saver option from £141 to £159.84 (monthly equivalent was £11.75 and is now £13.32). Standard monthly line rental is £15.99 per month."
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Old 24-08-2014, 10:03
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Now I'm confused.

I was going by this thread posted last week:-

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1999128

with this link:-

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/6...-talktalk.html

"BT Consumer has increased its saver option from £141 to £159.84 (monthly equivalent was £11.75 and is now £13.32). Standard monthly line rental is £15.99 per month."
BT put its Line Rental Saver up from £141 to £159.84 back in May! It goes up AGAIN on 1/12.

What is confusing?
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Old 24-08-2014, 10:08
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I think we should be putting pressure on our MP's etc to lobby Ofcom about these never ending increases, Sad thing is most of us will just roll over like little puppies.

BTW, this "call set up fee" the telcos worked for decades without seemingly not affecting income, how can they justify this as anything else but a money spinning scam? I can now be charged nearly 25p if I call someone on the landline and it goes onto voicemail.

Thank god for my mobile.
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Old 24-08-2014, 10:18
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BTW, this "call set up fee" the telcos worked for decades without seemingly not affecting income, how can they justify this as anything else but a money spinning scam? I can now be charged nearly 25p if I call someone on the landline and it goes onto voicemail.

Thank god for my mobile.
It seems to cost me >25p for the shortest calls from a landline now......so (unless it is a free call time) I have taking to using my mobile - as it is FAR cheaper!!

For example 3 PAYG is 1ppm with NO setup costs
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Old 24-08-2014, 10:26
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It seems to cost me >25p for the shortest calls from a landline now......so (unless it is a free call time) I have taking to using my mobile - as it is FAR cheaper!!

For example 3 PAYG is 1ppm with NO setup costs
Yep. It's a vicious circle. We stop making calls because of the cost, they lose more money and have to increase calls more, more people use the mobiles.......
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Old 24-08-2014, 10:39
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I can now be charged nearly 25p if I call someone on the landline and it goes onto voicemail.
Use 18185 and a call to a landline costs just 5p regardless of duration !
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Old 24-08-2014, 10:41
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For example 3 PAYG is 1ppm with NO setup costs
Is that an old tariff?

The current one is 3p/minute with no set up fee.
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Old 24-08-2014, 11:07
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Use 18185 and a call to a landline costs just 5p regardless of duration !
I used to use something like that but as I say I use the mobile. I am with TalkTalk and I am sure they don't allow that sort of thing anyway.
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Old 24-08-2014, 11:09
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I used to use something like that but as I say I use the mobile. I am with TalkTalk and I am sure they don't allow that sort of thing anyway.
That's right TalkTalk and Sky block the use of 18185 and 1899 (and similar)
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Old 24-08-2014, 11:12
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Is that an old tariff?

The current one is 3p/minute with no set up fee.
My fault sorry! I mis-remembered what the 3/2/1 tariff bits applied to! You are correct at 3ppp!
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Old 24-08-2014, 11:19
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My fault sorry! I mis-remembered what the 3/2/1 tariff bits applied to! You are correct at 3ppp!
Still a hell of a lot cheaper than the rip off landline!
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Old 24-08-2014, 13:12
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I'd be tempted to go 4G only, but I'd need to buy a freeview recorder to replace my BT Vision box.
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Old 25-08-2014, 13:34
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I think we should be putting pressure on our MP's etc to lobby Ofcom about these never ending increases, Sad thing is most of us will just roll over like little puppies.
BT need to raise money for new equipment somehow, and the equipment gets more sophisticated and more expensive all the time. Wages go up too. Everyone expects to get superfast broadband and pay next to nothing for it, it can't work that way. It's still far cheaper in real terms than it was, say, 50 years ago. Even in 1980 the fastest BT would guarantee on a phone line was 200 bits per second, and a modem cost what you'd pay for a laptop today!

BTW, this "call set up fee" the telcos worked for decades without seemingly not affecting income, how can they justify this as anything else but a money spinning scam? I can now be charged nearly 25p if I call someone on the landline and it goes onto voicemail.
Not a scam at all, it's the direct effect of legislation and Ofcom.

Phone companies used to charge based on distance, local calls were cheap, trunk calls more expensive, international calls cost a fortune (£5-£10 per minute just to call another European country). That maybe had some justification in the days of old mechanical switches and operator-controlled calls, when long distance calls used more equipment. With modern electronic systems everyone, including the phone companies, knew that most of the cost of a phone call is in the equipment at each end, and the signalling used for call setup. The actual difference in cost to call, say, Glasgow-London, or Glasgow-Paris, is only pennies more than a call from Glasgow-Edinburgh. The phone companies continued to charge more for long distance, which was used to keep local call costs down, until Ofcom and EU legislation banned them from such cross-subsidies.

It's no longer legal to use the high charges from long-distance calls to offset the cost of local equipment and line rental, each part of the service has to pay its own way.

End result: line rental goes up to align with the actual cost of maintaining the lines, long-distance and international call prices drop so much that there's no longer any point in charging different prices for local and long-distance. Instead each bit of the system will be charged for according to it's use, hence the break-out of line rental, call setup, etc. No scam, just the practical result of banning cross-subsidies.

Of course people that never made long-distance or international calls don't see any benefit there, they just see the other end of the seesaw.
Thank god for my mobile.
That'll be going up soon too, now that they can't use the "international roaming" scam to charge you a fortune when you're abroad, and subsidise national calls. Roaming costs almost nothing, so the extra charges are now capped by EU law.
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Old 25-08-2014, 14:28
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I think we should be putting pressure on our MP's etc to lobby Ofcom about these never ending increases, Sad thing is most of us will just roll over like little puppies.

BTW, this "call set up fee" the telcos worked for decades without seemingly not affecting income, how can they justify this as anything else but a money spinning scam? I can now be charged nearly 25p if I call someone on the landline and it goes onto voicemail.

Thank god for my mobile.
I know what you mean I'm thinking of not using our landline at all for call's from next year when our BT line rental saver wants renewing, BT makes a killing on line rental Infinity Broadband is paying off because you need a phone line so what can you do? We have BT Infinity but we don't make half as many calls as we used to on the land line so as you say we use our mobiles.
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Old 02-09-2014, 16:56
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Cant say in surprised. It's the same every year. BT, Sky, Virgin, whatever mobile provider you're with. Every year a price rise to 'improve services' that never improve. At least VM tend to offset price rises with a speed increase.

I got rid of BT last year. My mum was on BT basic but I paid for it and I just forgot to cancel it after she passed away. They neglect to tell you when you take BT basic that if you don't make calls you get charged a set charge for not calling anyone. When I did cancel it it took over 4 months and in the end I had to email the CEO just to get it cancelled. There was error after error and their CS were a few steps down from useless.

I use voipfone now. Pay them £2 a month for a local area number for others to ring and have topped up a total of £10 in the year I've had it. I just use mobile for making calls. And VM for Internet.
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Old 09-09-2014, 15:54
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Well finally making the switch, activations the 15th September, im going from a BT line, with Skys LLU broadband that only gets me 6Mb, and costing £31 a month (all in), to, a Sky line, + 40Mb Sky Fibre (where im estimated to get between 32-39Mb, with a guarantee of no lower than 27.3Mb) at only £25.40 (all in) for the first 6 months, then £35.40 (all in) after that.
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Old 09-09-2014, 16:00
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Well finally making the switch, activations the 15th September, im going from a BT line, with Skys LLU broadband that only gets me 6Mb, and costing £31 a month (all in), to, a Sky line, + 40Mb Sky Fibre (where im estimated to get between 32-39Mb, with a guarantee of no lower than 27.3Mb) at only £25.40 (all in) for the first 6 months, then £35.40 (all in) after that.
Remember that Sky will block access to indirect providers such as 18185, so any overseas calls may become prohibitively expensive, as may daytime calls if you don't have an All You Can Eat package !
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Old 09-09-2014, 17:06
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That won't affect me, as my phones on my other line, this ones just for my BB.
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Old 28-09-2014, 17:51
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That won't affect me, as my phones on my other line, this ones just for my BB.
The rise in monthly line rental won't affect you on either line ?
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:06
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I see BT are to start a new Line Rental Plus service from 1st December.

http://www.broadband.bt.com/line-ren...linerentalplus

They are also to stop the processing fee for customers that don't pay by direct debit but do make up for the stopping of the processing fee most of the BT packages and calls are going up in price. My BT contracts will be almost up my the end of the year.

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Old 11-10-2014, 10:24
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I see BT are to start a new Line Rental Plus service from 1st December.

http://www.broadband.bt.com/line-ren...linerentalplus

They are also to stop the processing fee for customers that don't pay by direct debit but do make up for the stopping of the processing fee most of the BT packages and calls are going up in price. My BT contracts will be almost up my the end of the year.

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So basically unless you already have choose to refuse and/or call barring then you are basically paying to get a fault fixing service you would already expect to have included in your subscription seems like a scam to try and get some extra money
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Old 20-10-2014, 15:13
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Sky line rental going up by £1 from 1st December, no changes to BB prices though, so ill only be paying 10p a week more than i was paying on BT, and then when their price increase comes in, also on the 1st december, i'll be paying 60p a month less
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