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Old 26-08-2014, 08:47
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All the current families are losing some of their main members or already have. The Roscoes are awful, the Lomax family at seriously reducing and according to another thread another one could be leaving. The best McQueens have left except Mercedes and Nana. Myra's return isn't permanent unfortunately and there is another McQueen leaving soon. The Osbourne's are still good but maybe need a few more characters. The O Connors are OK and the Blakes/Savages are good but there numbers are also reducing with Patrick leaving and then another one.

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However hollyoaks used to just do standalone characters with fresher's so should they just stick to that?
So does hollyoaks need another family?
Should it be based around another character?
Should hollyoaks add members to existing families?

I think hollyoaks could do with a new family. They shouldn't be connected to the village in anyway so no BK surprises. They should have two parents, two teenagers and two young adults along with a partner for one of the characters and a cousin in the family. However they wouldn't all come in at once they will come in slowly.
They should axe the Roscoes except the twins and also add in some new members for the existing families and a few standalone.
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Old 26-08-2014, 08:53
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It would be nice to have a group of freshers to bring the show back to its roots a bit but they've closed down the association with the college so much it might be difficult. The way the McQueens it might be worthwhile phasing them out and getting a new family in.
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Old 26-08-2014, 09:04
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I think they need to first worry about stabilizing the families they have, before they should try and bring in any more new characters, let alone a family. A lot about the show needs to change as a whole.

Not really sure BK has the ability to create good characters anymore either.
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Old 26-08-2014, 09:08
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I think they need to first worry about stabilizing the families they have, before they should try and bring in any more new characters, let alone a family. A lot about the show needs to change as a whole.

Not really sure BK has the ability to create good characters anymore either.
Fair enough, I keep forgetting Frankie and Jack exist and I used to really like their characters. Less gangster scenes would help.
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Old 26-08-2014, 09:19
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I think they need to first worry about stabilizing the families they have, before they should try and bring in any more new characters, let alone a family. A lot about the show needs to change as a whole.

Not really sure BK has the ability to create good characters anymore either.
I think BK can create good characters like Blessing but after there first few months he ruins them. I still like Blessing, Cameron, Leela and few others but he needs to have a good plan with the characters and hire capable actors not the likes of people who can show just one emotion .
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Old 26-08-2014, 10:39
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I don't think it needs a new family. It needs more individual Blessing type characters, that don't have any family connections to the village and can last as long as their storylines or popularity. Now, every character has to be tangled up in the other characters.

If the Roscoes must be kept on, I have a feeling they might dig out Uncle Ken or the auntie, which might make Robbie feel a bit edgy!

I hope the Lomax family as it is stays together. I don't think a new addition is needed.

The McQueens are a bit like the Dingles; a stalwart family that can get away with characters who don't do that much. I think some new McQueens (I imagine some brother/sister of Teresa's) would help put the family at the forefront again, as they're quite mellow now.

Are the Blakes/Savages really connected as a family? Dirk's 'family' is really now with Cindy and Holly- which I really like- Dennis is his own person and Dodger floats around. I think this type of family works well; it's very artificial to have a large group of adult siblings all living together and all acting for the good of the 'family' (cough cough Roscoes).

The whole point of the Blake family is that they are a small unit who have quite a powerful shared history of which we have seen only the surface. Neither Sienna nor Patrick have had much success of creating a life apart from each other.


I do think the storyline's turned out well though as Dodger fits equally well into both families.
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Old 26-08-2014, 11:11
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There is no point in HO introducing any new families until it starts writing for long-term potential rather than short-term relief.

Both the Lomaxes and the Roscoes looked good on paper. The Roscoes in particular sounded great: a large family of brothers, something which HO had never attempted before, with a strong matriarch at the head of it. That should have been impossible to mess up. So what did BK do? Promote them as a load of 'hunks', cast incredibly limited actors in the roles, (with the exception of Charlie Wernham who is so clearly destined for bigger and brighter things that you can't help but feel he'll probably be the next Roscoe on his way out), give way too many big storylines to Freddie who showed early potential as a quirky supporting character but quickly showed how out of his league he was by getting so much screen time, and writing Sandy as an irrational, unsympathetic plot device of a woman who changed her personality depending on what the episode called for. No wonder Gillian Taylforth left so quickly.

The Lomaxes should have worked as well. A family for Ste, a long-running character, (one of HO's best characters in fact), and a great lead-up to it with the brilliant euthanasia storyline. Then they just wrote it weirdly after that, squicking everyone out by almost making Ste and Danny have sex (I actually thought this was pretty brave but ultimately pointless), then making the family more about John Paul than Ste, then making Sam (who could have been a genuinely brilliant, professional older female character) a corrupt copper, and then killing them off before they ever had time to develop.

Leela and Peri have both got potential but with Leela rumoured to be leaving it would leave the family with the incredibly weak link that is Tegan, and Peri isn't old enough to stand on her own two feet yet.

If BK is going to insist on introducing characters that he only has short-term ideas for, he's going to face the same issues again and again.
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Old 26-08-2014, 11:14
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No, he needs to try and work on the ones he's currently got.
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Old 26-08-2014, 11:22
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The Lomaxes should have worked as well. A family for Ste, a long-running character, (one of HO's best characters in fact), and a great lead-up to it with the brilliant euthanasia storyline. Then they just wrote it weirdly after that, squicking everyone out by almost making Ste and Danny have sex (I actually thought this was pretty brave but ultimately pointless), then making the family more about John Paul than Ste, then making Sam (who could have been a genuinely brilliant, professional older female character) a corrupt copper, and then killing them off before they ever had time to develop.
This was one of Hollyoaks' lowest points- particularly when Danny let Ste carry on thinking that he was a spurned lover. It was brave and certainly edge-of-your-seat; I don't think they would have gone as far as it actually happening.

To be honest, I kept forgetting that Danny was Ste's dad and not just a love rival.



If BK is going to insist on introducing characters that he only has short-term ideas for, he's going to face the same issues again and again.
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Old 26-08-2014, 11:24
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The Lomaxes should have worked as well. A family for Ste, a long-running character, (one of HO's best characters in fact), and a great lead-up to it with the brilliant euthanasia storyline. Then they just wrote it weirdly after that, squicking everyone out by almost making Ste and Danny have sex (I actually thought this was pretty brave but ultimately pointless), then making the family more about John Paul than Ste, then making Sam (who could have been a genuinely brilliant, professional older female character) a corrupt copper, and then killing them off before they ever had time to develop.
This was one of Hollyoaks' lowest points- particularly when Danny let Ste carry on thinking that he was a spurned lover. It was brave and certainly edge-of-your-seat; I don't think they would have gone as far as it actually happening.

To be honest, I kept forgetting that Danny was Ste's dad and not just a love rival.

If BK is going to insist on introducing characters that he only has short-term ideas for, he's going to face the same issues again and again.
Exactly. If he wants to do that, he should introduce individual characters rather than families.
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Old 26-08-2014, 12:06
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The McQueens are now dead basically not that
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Old 26-08-2014, 13:23
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We still have The O'Connors, The Blakes, The Lomaxes, The Roscoes, The Osbournes. We're only losing McQueens and having them replaced with more anyway which to me is just the worst decision BK has made in this entire run but I'll reserve judgment until they appear.

I would like to see a new group of freshers (but we'd have had them announced by now) given that Jason, Robbie and Esther are all meant to be attending Uni in September. I also wouldn't mind some returns... It shocked me that they didn't keep Finn on from HO later or Louis McQueen.

I'd welcome back just about anyone from 2006-2010 at the minute
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Old 26-08-2014, 13:49
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Does Hollyoaks need a new family?? ,,,,erm, not sure BUT It sure as hell needs a new producer!!

I may ring Lime Pictures too ask em where they want the wreath sending!!
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Old 26-08-2014, 14:26
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well technically with the new mcqueens coming in they are as good as a new family, but judging by their descriptions Celine is just a carbon copy of Carmel while Porsche is a carbon copy of Mercedes (and not just because they are both named after a car)
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