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Old 29-08-2014, 21:46
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Shirley Carter?

She is a completely vile person who dried to drown her own kid, abandoned three of her other children including one with cystic fibrosis, sold out her friend's memory by blackmailing Phil and when Sharon was in a critical condition she tried to win back Phil.

And they're only a few of the inexcusable things she has done.

Does this character have any redeeming qualities. And I never seen such a despicable character that was loved by such a high portion of fans.
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Old 29-08-2014, 21:48
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Trust me, you're not!
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Old 29-08-2014, 21:50
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No, by a long way!

I actually really like her but plenty of people on here can't stand her!
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Old 29-08-2014, 21:50
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Super Shirley is great. Why should we care about her kids? Dean is a creep and we never saw the fictional one who died. All I care about is Shirley delivering her acid one liners that always make me laugh.
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Old 29-08-2014, 21:53
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I love her .Granted she was a terrible parent but it's not only men who abandon their families and aren't cut out for the job.
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Old 29-08-2014, 22:02
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I love Shirley, she's a complex, multilayered but flawed character. Love how she tells it how it is and her one liners are brilliant. Team Shirley.
She is well liked outside of DS but if you dislike her, you are in the right place haha.
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Old 29-08-2014, 22:20
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I love Shirley, she's a complex, multilayered but flawed character. Love how she tells it how it is and her one liners are brilliant. Team Shirley.
She is well liked outside of DS but if you dislike her, you are in the right place haha.
Totally this.
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Old 29-08-2014, 22:33
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[quote=Kate Ford fan;74521034]Shirley Carter?

She is a completely vile person who dried to drown her own kid, abandoned three of her other children including one with cystic fibrosis, sold out her friend's memory by blackmailing Phil and when Sharon was in a critical condition she tried to win back Phil.

And they're only a few of the inexcusable things she has done.

Does this character have any redeeming qualities. And I never seen such a despicable character that was loved by such a high portion of fans.[/QUOTE]

BIB Den Watts, Grant Mitchell, Steve Owen, Sean Slater, Pat Butcher, Janine, Michael Moon, Max Branning.....take your pick.
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Old 29-08-2014, 22:36
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Many people on this forum dislike Shirley haha.
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Old 29-08-2014, 22:38
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Don't get me started on my distain for this woman .
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Old 29-08-2014, 22:42
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"Am I the only one here who dislikes Shirley Carter?"

That's a bit like asking "Am I the only person in Ukraine who dislikes Putin?"
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Old 29-08-2014, 23:16
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I doubt it, I happen to like her when she is not being weak
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Old 30-08-2014, 00:13
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She is HORRENDOUS but I love her.
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Old 30-08-2014, 02:36
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I love Shirley! She is strong and she is vulnerable. She is imperfect and has made mistakes, some of which she regrets and is trying to set right. In my opinion, she does some of the things she does because of something from her childhood, which we have yet to discover fully, and she doesn't want to get hurt. I think, if she could face her past, forgive herself and her family, start to like herself, then she could move on and become a nicer person to others. I also love her one-liners!
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Old 30-08-2014, 03:47
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No you are not.

Very few people are neutral about Shirley Carter. They either love her or loath her.

I loathe her but not as much as I loathe Tracy Barlow.
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Old 30-08-2014, 04:46
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Shirley Carter?

She is a completely vile person who dried to drown her own kid, abandoned three of her other children including one with cystic fibrosis, sold out her friend's memory by blackmailing Phil and when Sharon was in a critical condition she tried to win back Phil.

And they're only a few of the inexcusable things she has done.

Does this character have any redeeming qualities. And I never seen such a despicable character that was loved by such a high portion of fans.
That :" I am a angry woman look" makes me sick.
I really can't stand the woman .
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Old 30-08-2014, 06:33
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She was a lot more likable when Heather was around, I think.

The backstory of when she left the kids seems to have been retconned to try and make her look better. I dislike her, and dislike the domination of the Carters.
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Old 30-08-2014, 08:03
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I love Shirley! She is strong and she is vulnerable. She is imperfect and has made mistakes, some of which she regrets and is trying to set right. In my opinion, she does some of the things she does because of something from her childhood, which we have yet to discover fully, and she doesn't want to get hurt. I think, if she could face her past, forgive herself and her family, start to like herself, then she could move on and become a nicer person to others. I also love her one-liners!
My sentiments exactly!
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Old 30-08-2014, 08:55
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A horrid, nasty, selfish woman.

I love her.
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Old 30-08-2014, 11:09
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I love Shirley, she's a complex, multilayered but flawed character. Love how she tells it how it is and her one liners are brilliant. Team Shirley.
She is well liked outside of DS but if you dislike her, you are in the right place haha.
This for me!
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Old 30-08-2014, 11:17
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[quote=vald;74522561]
Shirley Carter?

She is a completely vile person who dried to drown her own kid, abandoned three of her other children including one with cystic fibrosis, sold out her friend's memory by blackmailing Phil and when Sharon was in a critical condition she tried to win back Phil.

And they're only a few of the inexcusable things she has done.

Does this character have any redeeming qualities. And I never seen such a despicable character that was loved by such a high portion of fans.[/QUOTE]

BIB Den Watts, Grant Mitchell, Steve Owen, Sean Slater, Pat Butcher, Janine, Michael Moon, Max Branning.....take your pick.
Even if you added them altogether they wouldn't be as dispicable as Shirley. She truly is vile. You could put her in the dictionary under vile except she is no where near iconic enough.
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Old 30-08-2014, 11:45
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Linda is a good actress, is perfect for Eastenders and thats why I tolerate the character.

Its odd because Ian and Phil do bad things and I can forgive them, but with Shirley its a different story. Maybe its because they should have explored her backstory more years ago, but they should have come up with something less contrived and repetitive. How many times have we had stories where the baby is taken off the mother
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Old 30-08-2014, 12:58
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She needs too have another showdown with Rainie, both Linda Henry and Tanya Franks are very good actresses.
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Old 30-08-2014, 16:06
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I love Shirley I wish she would have my kids
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Old 30-08-2014, 16:52
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[quote=vald;74522561]
Shirley Carter?

She is a completely vile person who dried to drown her own kid, abandoned three of her other children including one with cystic fibrosis, sold out her friend's memory by blackmailing Phil and when Sharon was in a critical condition she tried to win back Phil.

And they're only a few of the inexcusable things she has done.

Does this character have any redeeming qualities. And I never seen such a despicable character that was loved by such a high portion of fans.[/QUOTE]

BIB Den Watts, Grant Mitchell, Steve Owen, Sean Slater, Pat Butcher, Janine, Michael Moon, Max Branning.....take your pick.
None of these are made to be painted in a good picture though (except Pat and she did redeem herself later in her life). Saint Shirley is an accurate description of how she is being used at the minute. I am pretty sure everyone here agrees that the people you listed are horrible but interesting characters.
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