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stevebluejay
11-01-2016
Cannot see any way that Dara will replace Kev full time and break up the 'Kev and Neil dream team'.

I've said it before but it needs an Andy Gray, Richard Keys type scandal or a retirement for Sky to shake up their studio sports coverage. I read somewhere that Halling due to the uncertainty of NFL coverage on Sky a few years ago, chose to leave for the Sky boxing gig as it was guaranteed work, so that created the opening for Reynolds.

I've said it before, but for me the Sky coverage is tired looking and badly in need of a makeover, as someone said, even Jeff looks a bit bored these days.

I often wonder if Jeff really gets on with Neil, i know they do the podcasts together, but he often gets interrupted by Neil during analysis, and a 3 man panel gives them little time to each speak during breaks.
For me, Reynolds is much better suited to presenting as he brings little to the table as a credible analyst, what's his claim to fame, player for the Ipswich Jets or somewhere! Let Cable permanently be a life coach or peddle his book, have Reynolds hosting if you are going to have him on at all and have Jeff in with an ex player such as Greer for these playoffs.

I only want Dara as host to shake it up and freshen things up, i thought did a decent job but maybe only because she doesn't fumble the ball as much as Cadle always does, yesterday i'm sure i heard him call Jay Gruden, Jon on at least two occasions.

The fizzydave tweet was embarrassing and laughable and he was even mentioned again when Neil was advertising his podcast roadshows. Sky, NFLUK and Neil if it was his brainchild want shooting for this self promoting. The games will sell themselves if people want to go, the match ups, ticket details are all freely available on the internet for those who look.

I won't be going to the London games as i'm no fan of the teams and don't live close by and it is too expensive a weekend for me who has little interest in the games if it doesn't involve the 49ers, but that is me. However i wanted to go the O2 for the Raptors game this Thursday but i couldn't get a ticket as it sold out so quickly, no self promoting of that event was required although i accept that capacity is much smaller.

It is all about supply and demand and all Sky seem to do these days is plug a London franchise or tickets to London games. Neil has banged on before about a London franchise and it gets boring, i don't want it and i don't think it will work long term, i want to watch the show to see the games and analysis on what is going on, on the field. The constant celebrity fantasy football updates are tedious too.

I remember years ago we used to get constant reminders of who played or coached in NFL Europe as well, thank goodness that is becoming a distant memory now! I remember Neil endorsing the 49ers hiring of Tomsula because of his NFL Europe coaching experience, 'he's a great guy' said Neil one Sunday, yes but he was always going to be a crap NFL head coach.

It could and should be so much better and more polished these days, Sky have rights to most of the games, double/triple header Sundays are guaranteed and yet we get amateurish presenting and studio coverage IMO. Maybe they think it is a great production.

Now i see they sent Jim White out to cover the Kraft and Patriots story, why White or is he their high profile go to guy, do he know anything about the sport?

Right i'm off to find fizzy dave and see what he's been tweeting now!
Super_Steve
11-01-2016
So let me get this straight - people are complaining about the UK coverage of the NFL promoting the London games? Is it really that stupid to think that may want to let people know when tickets are on general sale? Yes - it's a bit daft the way they went about it with the fake Twitter user but it's not like the coverage was wall-to-wall London promotion. It was for maybe 5-10 minutes in over 7 hours of coverage!
Daryl_Slinn
11-01-2016
I only want Dara as host to shake it up and freshen things up, i thought did a decent job but maybe only because she doesn't fumble the ball as much as Cadle always does, yesterday i'm sure i heard him call Jay Gruden, Jon on at least two occasions.

I was on Chucky alert on more than one occasion following Kevin's comments.
I tend to look up stats or look at a social media site when they go to the studio.
The format Sky use is very tired, no matter how many times they change the set, it's the presentation that is the problem, you've only got to watch NFL Network on a Sunday before the games to see that. The US studios have fun, Fox, CBS and of course Chris Berman on ESPN.

Time for a change Sky !
Fieldmouse83
11-01-2016
Sky would not do badly to have Neil present and Mike Carlson analyse. No one else just those two.
Gray77
11-01-2016
You can't compare what Sky can do with what CBS, NBC and Fox can do with their studio stuff. Those companies can get the best analysts and the biggest names, whilst Sky are left with those who are either based here or those who wish to fly over for a weekend, and so the difference in quality is going to be obvious.

Everyone raves about NBC's coverage of the Premier League, but their studio guests are basically Robbie Earle and Robbie Mustoe, who wouldn't get a look in most weeks on Sky here. Sky can get the best people and the big names for PL because they're all here and they are the big company that covers PL. Comparing what a host broadcaster and a broadcaster overseas can do with studio guests is unfair.

However, Sky's coverage could be better. I also get continually annoyed by them talking over the US comms when they come back from breaks, talking over the refs when they are announcing the decision from a challenge, talking over a highlight clip that looks interesting, etc, etc. I also hate the fantasy stuff. I don't care who is top of the 'celebrity' fantasy league. That stuff should be kept on the website, and should not take up time on live shows.

Also, the lack of awareness about what is going on in games drives me mad at times. The presenters obviously have an issue that they decide they are going to chat about in the next break, but if there's just been a TD, an interception, or a big play, talk about that big moment and leave the tweet about the coaching vacancy at Cleveland until a more opportune moment. Stuff like that makes it look like they aren't even watching the game. I know they are, and I know they care, so why make it look like the exact opposite?
Daryl_Slinn
12-01-2016
Originally Posted by Gray77:
“Also, the lack of awareness about what is going on in games drives me mad at times. The presenters obviously have an issue that they decide they are going to chat about in the next break, but if there's just been a TD, an interception, or a big play, talk about that big moment and leave the tweet about the coaching vacancy at Cleveland until a more opportune moment. Stuff like that makes it look like they aren't even watching the game. I know they are, and I know they care, so why make it look like the exact opposite?”

And during Sunday's games from what i've seen on social media they spend a lot of time tweeting or taking photos in the studio when in reality I would have thought they should be watching the action.
I often wonder how much is fed to them through their earpieces.
stevebluejay
12-01-2016
Originally Posted by Daryl_Slinn:
“And during Sunday's games from what i've seen on social media they spend a lot of time tweeting or taking photos in the studio when in reality I would have thought they should be watching the action.
I often wonder how much is fed to them through their earpieces.”

I also often wonder just how interested they actually are as well on what is going on in the States at the same time.

On the NFLUK forum someone commented just how bored/disinterested Jeff appeared whenever Neil was talking and I noticed that too, maybe all the chat about fantasy football, London games and anything but the game in progress was wearing thin with Jeff, he certainly perked up whenever Kev asked him a question or JG interacted with him.
I get the impression rightly or wrongly that the novelty of Jeff being in the studio every December and January has worn off for him, he seemed to enjoy it more when it was with Kev and Nick all those years ago. He for me just doesn't seem to gel and hit it off with Neil anymore, or maybe it is just the impression his body language gives me. It just seems to be a job in the CFL offseason now, although he certainly lightens up with anyone other than Neil in the studio these days.
ukdude7
13-01-2016
So, Seahawks at LA Rams first SNF game of the 2016 season?
Super_Steve
13-01-2016
Going to the podcast recording in Newcastle tonight. Will let you know if Jeff falls asleep when Neil is talking.
Gray77
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by ukdude7:
“So, Seahawks at LA Rams first SNF game of the 2016 season?”

I'd prefer San Francisco at LA, it's an older rivalry.
ukdude7
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by Gray77:
“I'd prefer San Francisco at LA, it's an older rivalry.”

Agree I loved that rivalry in the 80's. But, assuming the Seahawks don't win the Super Bowl which would mean they'd open the season at home on TNF, the Rams always play the Seahawks hard and they're one of the current glamour teams in the league. Who knows what the 49ers will look like come September?
stevebluejay
13-01-2016
See Neil is tweeting about Raiders and relocation, mentioning London. Cannot see it myself when there are so many NA cities who are viable alternative for a franchise than moving one over here with its logistical nightmares, but who knows. He and Kirkwood know a lot more than me and they think London might get something in the future, maybe Neil should ask fizzy dave!
brundlebud
13-01-2016
Is there really enough interest to support eight games a year?

One of the issues with the relocations out of Oakland, St Louis and San Diego has been that they want purpose-built NFL stadiums, not to share them with other sports.

I also think that London would be loathe to spend that sort of money of a project that primarily benefits one owner and one sport.
ukdude7
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by stevebluejay:
“See Neil is tweeting about Raiders and relocation, mentioning London. Cannot see it myself when there are so many NA cities who are viable alternative for a franchise than moving one over here with its logistical nightmares, but who knows. He and Kirkwood know a lot more than me and they think London might get something in the future, maybe Neil should ask fizzy dave!”

Neil really is just a PR mouthpiece for the league in the UK. It's his job to keep beating this drum. It's tedious but he's going to keep doing it... The owners will want London as one of the threats for taxpayer money for stadium upgrades and rebuilding.
stevebluejay
13-01-2016
Originally Posted by ukdude7:
“Neil really is just a PR mouthpiece for the league in the UK. It's his job to keep beating this drum. It's tedious but he's going to keep doing it... The owners will want London as one of the threats for taxpayer money for stadium upgrades and rebuilding.”

Yeah totally agree. Maybe that is why Neil is more suited on Sky than Nick was because of his PR 'skills'. It is tedious to listen to though even if it is only infrequent mentions.
JCR
13-01-2016
Raiders are an interesting team but the NFL clearly doesn't trust Mark Davies (the owner) with L.A., never mind the logistical nightmare of trying to set up in London.
hallstar
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by brundlebud:
“Is there really enough interest to support eight games a year?

One of the issues with the relocations out of Oakland, St Louis and San Diego has been that they want purpose-built NFL stadiums, not to share them with other sports.

I also think that London would be loathe to spend that sort of money of a project that primarily benefits one owner and one sport.”

It's not really the sharing of the stadium with other sports that is the problem but baseball. That requires a totally different shape plus during the baseball season they can't remove the dirt from the baseball diamond.

Atlanta are building a stadium to be shared with an MLS team, think the Vikings have plans for soccer there. Plus the Seahawks and Patriots share with MLS teams.

Tottenham are building a stadium with the NFL in mind that will have a movable artificial pitch for NFL games so I think a stadium would be the least of the issues for a London team.

Also with NFL stadiums it's a lot of money for 10 events ( or up to 12 if in the playoffs a year) so sharing with soccer teams makes sense.
JCR
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by ukdude7:
“So, Seahawks at LA Rams first SNF game of the 2016 season?”

Would they allow primetime games at the Coliseum? They didn't in the eighties. Suppose it's possible they consider South Central safer now than then (or there's more $ involved now).
Gray77
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by JCR:
“Would they allow primetime games at the Coliseum? They didn't in the eighties. Suppose it's possible they consider South Central safer now than then (or there's more $ involved now).”

USC play alot of Saturday evening games there.
Ginger Daddy
14-01-2016
In any case any prime time matches would start at 5.30pm local time, and not in the "proper" evening....
hallstar
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by JCR:
“Would they allow primetime games at the Coliseum? They didn't in the eighties. Suppose it's possible they consider South Central safer now than then (or there's more $ involved now).”

How much of that was due to the area or the blackouts with the Raiders struggling to fill the stadium. I know they didn't play primetime games with a high chance of blackout. With the removal of the blackout rule they might play one especially the home opener which will be an event so will sell out.
brundlebud
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by ukdude7:
“So, Seahawks at LA Rams first SNF game of the 2016 season?”

... or maybe LA Rams at San Antonio Raiders...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14...rs-san-antonio
stevebluejay
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by brundlebud:
“... or maybe LA Rams at San Antonio Raiders...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14...rs-san-antonio”

No it cannot happen, Neil insists it will be the London Raiders!
I'm waiting for him to sell us the theory this weekend.
Bosox
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by stevebluejay:
“No it cannot happen, Neil insists it will be the London Raiders!
I'm waiting for him to sell us the theory this weekend.”

Fizzy_Dave will probably ask about the London Raiders this weekend.
brundlebud
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by Bosox:
“Fizzy_Dave will probably ask about the London Raiders this weekend.”

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