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Wallasey Saint
07-09-2016
Originally Posted by Rich1977:
“Don't blame BT (or ESPN, Setanta before them), blame the greedy Premier League that caused this by continuing to tender rights so no one broadcaster can have them all. The directive that originally forced them to do this has long since expired but they realised that splitting rights created a bidding war and more money for them.

Actually best solution for all would be someone like Eurosport or Premier Sports to take the all the NFL rights where their costs are not inflated by over valued football rights.”

It's not the Premier League but EU Law, that one broadcaster cannot have all the rights to the Premier League, i'm sure SKY would bid for all the Premier League packages if they could but they're not allowed to by EU Law.
aberboy
07-09-2016
Originally Posted by Wallasey Saint:
“It's not the Premier League but EU Law, that one broadcaster cannot have all the rights to the Premier League, i'm sure SKY would bid for all the Premier League packages if they could but they're not allowed to by EU Law.”

EU law has changed now; it's the PL that insist on not one broadcaster having all the rights.
Rich1977
07-09-2016
Originally Posted by Wallasey Saint:
“It's not the Premier League but EU Law, that one broadcaster cannot have all the rights to the Premier League, i'm sure SKY would bid for all the Premier League packages if they could but they're not allowed to by EU Law.”

It's not EU Law.

The requirement was only in place for first tender which saw setanta win. There currently is no legal requirement to split the rights and this was also the case for the last two tenders however the PL split them anyway.

What we do have going forward are some commitments made by the PL following the recent Ofcom investigation.
Wallasey Saint
07-09-2016
Originally Posted by Rich1977:
“It's not EU Law.

The requirement was only in place for first tender which saw setanta win. There currently is no legal requirement to split the rights and this was also the case for the last two tenders however the PL split them anyway.

What we do have going forward are some commitments made by the PL following the recent Ofcom investigation.”

Originally Posted by aberboy:
“EU law has changed now; it's the PL that insist on not one broadcaster having all the rights.”


I stand corrected, i didn't know the law had changed.
popeye13
08-09-2016
I have to say that BT does US sports coverage 1000% better than Sky ever have!
Gray77
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by popeye13:
“I have to say that BT does US sports coverage 1000% better than Sky ever have!”

That's the thing though, BT don't do anything, they just show you what the viewers see in the States. They allow viewers here to sit down and watch the programme as it is shown over there, with the pre-game and the half-time shows and make no attempt the 'own' the programming with their own UK based studio stuff.

Sky always like to put their stamp on their output, and always like to have their own studio to confirm that you are watching a Sky Sports show. This is why some long time NFL fans (whilst hopefully glad that they get so many live games) get a bit irked by the coverage, because Sky are trying to interject their own personal slant on things at the expense of just allowing people to watch the US coverage.

This is why if you go on to the NFL UK forums you'll see some newer (or less clued up) NFL fans moaning that Sky have 'scheduled' certain games for TV coverage when of course Sky have zero say in the scheduling of any game. Because the coverage is designed to make the less initiated think they are watching a Sky programme (like Super Sunday) some people then think the whole thing is a Sky event. That is what Sky intend to happen.

BT just let us watch the action as shown in the US, and although it means more ad breaks it feels authentic and allows the viewer to know that they are seeing everything that the main intended audience in the States are watching.
walterwhite
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by Rich1977:
“There is a simple solution, give Mr Murdoch, BT etc.. the two fingers and don't subscribe and pay these inflated prices.

I blame them and the people subscribed to SKY in the 1990s and fuelled the beast that we have today. I've said it before if they could buy the rights to air we breath and sell it back to us they would.”

So cut off your nose to spite your face?
Super_Steve
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by Rich1977:
“Surely if you follow College football then that is the case anyway. Would be better if it was all on BT.”

I don't follow college football. NFL is the big(ger) draw than college football, ergo - if anything college should be brought over to Sky rather than other way around. Horse leading the cart and all that.
Super_Steve
08-09-2016
In any case, Sky's coverage isn't the disaster that people make it out to be. At the end of the day we have more NFL coverage than ever before with something in region of 100 games being broadcast across the season as well as Red Zone. They probably show as many games across a week as they do with Premier League games.

I don't understand why people get their knickers in a twist about Kevin Cadle or Neil Reynolds talking up the International Series. First and foremost, you see all of the game with less adverts. The analysis may not be ground breaking but so what.
Radiomike
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by Super_Steve:
“In any case, Sky's coverage isn't the disaster that people make it out to be. At the end of the day we have more NFL coverage than ever before with something in region of 100 games being broadcast across the season as well as Red Zone. They probably show as many games across a week as they do with Premier League games.

I don't understand why people get their knickers in a twist about Kevin Cadle or Neil Reynolds talking up the International Series. First and foremost, you see all of the game with less adverts. The analysis may not be ground breaking but so what.”

Competition might cause Sky to raise their game though. The coverage has become a bit predictable in terms of presenters, analysts, gimmicks and recurring themes. That said Sky are clearly only really interested in the live game coverage. Clearly that is the main thing to them. NFL Redzone in HD on Sky Sports Mix is a move in the right direction providing it is kept there across the season.

I'd like to see more supporting programmes in the same way that BT Sport ESPN has College Football Live Mon to Fri plus College Football Final and Championship Drive plus College Gameday.

It would have been great in my view if BT Sport ESPN were able to be a player in terms of showing at least ESPN's Monday Night Football plus the pre game Monday Night Countdown plus NFL Insiders & NFL Live during the week and NFL Insiders - Sunday Edition and Sunday NFL Countdown pre game Sundays.

Sky could offer more NFL Network programming if it was so minded but it appears it isn't.

Might be nice to see more NFL Fantasy coverage as well.

Following on from ESPN's College coverage I think one presenter plus two analysts for immediate pre game, during game, half time and post game is the best option but would be nice if they freshened the mix of faces they use. Perhaps more link ups to the US pre game.
Blokee
08-09-2016
Expect to see a big change tonight folks as I understand the big dog has left the building for the last time...
Radiomike
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by Blokee:
“Expect to see a big change tonight folks as I understand the big dog has left the building for the last time...”

Note that this just refers to Neil Reynolds in the studio on Sundays:-

http://www.skysports.com/nfl/news/12...u-need-to-know
walterwhite
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by Blokee:
“Expect to see a big change tonight folks as I understand the big dog has left the building for the last time...”

If we've got permament Dara I may kill myself.
scurry
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by Blokee:
“Expect to see a big change tonight folks as I understand the big dog has left the building for the last time...”

By the looks of it we won't get any dog tonight as coverage starts at 1.30am so I guess they are going straight to NBC coverage similar to the other night games during last season where there was no studio presence. That's surprising for the opener, not even a preview show in the evening to get people ready for the season - just the usual array of NFL programming available year-round on demand.
Blokee
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by scurry:
“By the looks of it we won't get any dog tonight as coverage starts at 1.30am so I guess they are going straight to NBC coverage similar to the other night games during last season where there was no studio presence. That's surprising for the opener, not even a preview show in the evening to get people ready for the season - just the usual array of NFL programming available year-round on demand.”

That may well be the case for tonight (I just presumed that they would have a studio) but after all these years looks like Kev's finally got the boot...
kevthelutonbee
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by Blokee:
“That may well be the case for tonight (I just presumed that they would have a studio) but after all these years looks like Kev's finally got the boot...”

His facebook entry does say Former Presenter/host at Sky Sports so you may be right
walterwhite
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by kevthelutonbee:
“His facebook entry does say Former Presenter/host at Sky Sports so you may be right”

I believe it has said that for some time.
Matthartlane
08-09-2016
Looking at Kevin's Twitter, a few people questioned him if he was going to be presenting the NFL coverage on sky and his response is with a sad face with a tear!....
Ruley Ramundo
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by Matthartlane:
“Looking at Kevin's Twitter, a few people questioned him if he was going to be presenting the NFL coverage on sky and his response is with a sad face with a tear!....”

He was the G.O.A.T
ThomasStirk
08-09-2016
Hopefully Neil is stepping up to the hosting role, Dara was ok but Neil is more then ready for his chance
mlt11
08-09-2016
Coverage starts at 5pm this Sunday so that gives them some more time for a general intro to the season.

It then reverts to 5.30pm from week 2.
Ads
08-09-2016
So Fox continue their love in with the Dallas Cowboys and will be showing them v the giants as their late game. I understand why they do this as the Giants and the Cowboys pull in ratings, but I'd be more interested in them showing the Packers at the Jags.

All the tv games and announcers are here: http://506sports.com/
brundlebud
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by Ads:
“So Fox continue their love in with the Dallas Cowboys and will be showing them v the giants as their late game. I understand why they do this as the Giants and the Cowboys pull in ratings, but I'd be more interested in them showing the Packers at the Jags.

All the tv games and announcers are here: http://506sports.com/”

Ummm... they are showing the Packers at the Jags. At 1pm ET...
Bosox
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by mlt11:
“Coverage starts at 5pm this Sunday so that gives them some more time for a general intro to the season.

It then reverts to 5.30pm from week 2.”

Extra half an hour to answer more questions from more made up viewers about when the London tickets go on sale you mean.
packerbully
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by Gray77:
“That's the thing though, BT don't do anything, they just show you what the viewers see in the States. They allow viewers here to sit down and watch the programme as it is shown over there, with the pre-game and the half-time shows and make no attempt the 'own' the programming with their own UK based studio stuff.

Sky always like to put their stamp on their output, and always like to have their own studio to confirm that you are watching a Sky Sports show. This is why some long time NFL fans (whilst hopefully glad that they get so many live games) get a bit irked by the coverage, because Sky are trying to interject their own personal slant on things at the expense of just allowing people to watch the US coverage.

This is why if you go on to the NFL UK forums you'll see some newer (or less clued up) NFL fans moaning that Sky have 'scheduled' certain games for TV coverage when of course Sky have zero say in the scheduling of any game. Because the coverage is designed to make the less initiated think they are watching a Sky programme (like Super Sunday) some people then think the whole thing is a Sky event. That is what Sky intend to happen.

BT just let us watch the action as shown in the US, and although it means more ad breaks it feels authentic and allows the viewer to know that they are seeing everything that the main intended audience in the States are watching.”

Exactly.
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