I have never understood this. If the camera moved away from the singer, you can still hear them. If the camera moves away from the dancers, you can't see them any more. It's common sense! We can't listen to dancers! (Well, apart from the tap dancer who was rapping to his own beat outside the shopping centre today, which was pretty cool. But if you can listen to a jive, then it's not being very well danced.) It's like watching a foreign film with subtitles and expecting to continue understanding what's happening when you look away from the screen. Or hoping to enjoy Christmas lights that you put on the roof when you're sitting indoors in the lounge.

That was amazing, especially in slow motion. Still not very sure why he was there in the first place but that's the best use they've made of Len's Lens all series! I was wondering what the audience was finding so hilarious when Claudia and Tess were talking at the start of the show.

Glad to see Iveta out.
If I want to see women dressed like that I could go down to Liverpool docks when the ships come in.

Does he have normal/boring eyes not worthy of mention? or no eyes at all?

Yep. Surly, petulant Scott can go for starters. Inexplicably creepy, wussy-pants metrosexual Mark too. Please! or if the Pixie/Frankie bots had a kind of misfunction of their Stepford apparatus and started spewing forth obscenities, that would be kind of satisfying too.

(sorry not to multiquote) I adore Iveta. WarDrobe Vicky had been talking about her totally beaded dress and saying they'd had it at the back of the stockroom for ages and no other dancer had hitherto been "woman enough" to handle its extreme heaviness. Iveta did it in style. Lithuanian woman never complain, never show weakness!

Unappreciating that TTF & his pro partner keep getting rammed down the throat !!! .... ... Now together with FFG & the whole Cleethorpes clan ....

I just find Mark ... oleaginous.

Never in the history of Strictly have I hated the way a pro dances more than TTF. He is ****ing terrible but so OTT your eyes are unwillingly and helplessly drawn to him at the expense of better dancers. He is a televisual eye-molester.

A question for people who have been watching longer than I have!

I do think Thom had really started to improve lately, and it would have been great to know how that trajectory would have continued. I couldn't really envisage him challenging the top 4 but stranger things have happened...

I just wondered, did past winners who had a J-word (sorry) start out similar to Thom in terms of dancing aptitude? For example Mark Ramprakash, or others who had not danced before being on Strictly?

Strictly backing dancer for years ... failed two auditions for pro role ( no surprise there ) & only got recalled for God only knows why ( probably has the dirt on Jason ) and now thinks he is God's gift to the dance community .... .... not only him ... but his whole current & previous 14 generations ....

Darren G (his full name must not be spoken in this thread.......ssssstttt)

I suspect it's a desperate attempt to mollify Daily Mail anti-foreigners or even xenophobes who complain about all the Eastern Europeans & colonials. Esp now James has gone, traded James for Frogmella.

Cant believe this is the best of British offerings... ... And if it actually is.... no need to ram them down... plus his pro partner is not British .... !!!

Such a sad state of affairs if this indeed is the best of British ballroom/Latin dancing ....

Edit to add : I still think TPTB haven't looked hard enough for good British pros ....

Okay, you big pedant. I don't think he was intentionally attention seeking.

While I don't like Karen's technique in general, I am going to unappreciate myself for being so shallow as to dislike a dancer because the size of her feet. I find them so large and distracting that it's hard to focus on anyone else when she dances. I don't really think the way she uses them helps my opinion of her either. They are not what I would consider articulate feet...

Anyone else notice this?

Well not until now! Will spend any time Karen is dancing watching her feet and not to see if she is dancing her steps correctly!

At last Tristan gets a moment to shine, but has to share the stage with TTF and Karen, who were doing a pretty good impression of a pair of mechanical puppets on overdrive. Watching them dance reminds me of a couple of attention seeking schoolkids shouting out the answer in class.

Apart from the obvious two who are so far behind the others, I was hoping for Alison to be in the bottom two, if only to save her poor partners back. He has to curve himself so far over her ample proportions to give her a hug I fear he may do himself a mischief.

Sorry to chip in, I'd just like to ask something...

I can't believe how seriously some people are taking this competition. Is it a British thing...? I seem to remember people taking the Bake Off "bincident" very seriously as well. That's at least a little bit understandable as there's an actual prize in that competition, but in this one it's just a glitterball. I don't mean to be insulting, I'm not from the UK so I was just interested. I can't believe how angry people are getting over a Saturday night entertainment programme

This is nothing.
Wait until the last few weeks

Was away from the weekend so didn't get to see the " shock "

I have to say I am not that shocked, much as I like Iveta I did spend the whole dance wondering what dance it was. He did not straighten his legs once in that dance, and Simon had the dry ice treatment so I suspect his foot work was not good.

Alison reminded me of Madame Mims from the Sword in the Stone. Same build same cackle and Madame Mims danced around a broom stick, sorry Aliaj.

I though TTF was going to knock his own teeth out in the jive.

Claim to fame my sons housemate is the niece of the lasso man and was mortified by the bale incident. I thought it was the only good thing to be captures on Lens lens ever.

I am beginning to not mind Pixie but Caroline has more personality in her little finger than either of the bots.

Frankie is a much better dancer than her partner and do neither of the Cliftons do anything other than twee.

What on earth was going on with Karen and her legs last night. If that was correct Samba technique I really did not like it. Isn't she supposed to be a samba specialist 😳.?

As for Judy, Allison and Scott, there is no point any more, you will never be better, bye now 😃

The whole from Grimsby clan can get lumped in this. So twee and such forgettable choreography.

They are all over dancers, and over grimacy.

What was happening with Karen in that Samba, did that dress keep giving her electric shocks and she lost control of her legs there?

I also think Janette is now right out of her depth in ballroom, if Jake wins it will be despite her not because.

Well I for one never threw an almighty fit and boycotted the rest of the series when Austin was unfairly eliminated over NotClooney and still speak of that decision through gritted teeth) nope, not me, don't know who you're talking about, and I certain don't still have a twitch if anyone mentions Peter beating Digger Dean in Masterchef II - no I was completely sane and rational over those two decisions at the time and still am years later ( )

Digger Dean wuz robbed!!

I still get twitchy when the Hobbit's win is mentioned - I was already rooting for Queen Nat back then.

Wassup, the beaded frock?

I note from another thread that you didn't mind Pixie wearing beading, perhaps because there was rather less of it