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This is Most Definitely Not An Appreciation Thread **Part 21**
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tortoiseperson
01-11-2014
I'm hoping people's curiosity about Scott will only extend to wanting to see his Hallowe'en effort and he can then be dumped after tonight.

This mild warm and sunny weather is disconcertingly un-Hallowe'en-y - I walked home in the dark last night at 7.30 pm with trick-or-treaters all around, and I was wearing summer trousers and just a hoody, no coat needed
aggs
01-11-2014
Originally Posted by MayD:
“I unappreciate that attitude. Does that allow me to opine here now?”

On he understanding it has no basis in any kind of fact or actuality at all, have a squizz at the DOT Manifesto


Originally Posted by mimi dlc:
“The DOT Manifesto (2014 version)
As we have a new part of the thread it's time for a reiteration of the DOT Manifesto for those who are too drunk and can't remember or are newby de-lurkers.
________________

What is a Non-App thread?


Well, it's the anti-thesis of an App thread, where you can come to have moan or a laugh, shamelessly take the mick out of the show that we all love. And make up nicknames.
It's somewhere where you can air little niggles and that is !!!11!!! free, where people don't deliberately misconstrue, don't use up the whole of DS's supply of capital letters and use smilies for their intended purpose.

You can say all the things that would get you thrown out of an App thread.
We welcome anyone with a witty comment and an attitude.

Why does X pull such weird faces?
What on earth has Y got on her head, and is it dead?
Is Z wearing that dress for a bet, and how much did she lose?
What would Bruce have done if.....?

Basic T&Cs of this thread (which have no legal basis whatever)
• Bring a sense of humour with you, and a bottle.
• Don't come on here for a whine about another thread please
You can *just* about say anything on here, just be amusing.
• You don't have to be drunk - just act like it.
• If you think we are all horrible, try another thread.....

....But you'll be back by the semi-final when it all goes wild out there
For all the pish taking the posters in here, we actually love the show as much (if not more, truth be told) than a lot of people 'out there'
We do our best not to be cliquey but admit that we can lapse into "Non-App Speak"...if you don't understand a nickname or a reference, just ask.
You don't have to be a whisky drinking middle aged woman of Irish extraction with a cat or two. It just helps.

PS - DOT stands for Drunken Old Tart.
(Young Teetotal Ladies and Men are also welcome)”

franglemand
01-11-2014
I think I'd like Hallowe'en as a theme week more if they really went to town on the storylining. I don't get why Joanne is Morticia Adams if Scott is Uncle Fester? I assumed she was going to be Debbie (the woman from Adams Family Values who goes after rich men, marries them and kills them; tries it on Uncle Fester and is baffled by the fact that he will not die). I think Joanne could make a good Debbie.

And then, see, she and Scott dance and she tries to kill him while he remains oblivious. Eventually she gives it and walks away, leaving him heartbroken but she has a smile on her face as she sets her sights on her next target and morphs into...

Glinda from Wicked, as played by Kevin. He and Frankie (Elphaba) have a back and forth about being true to yourself vs. seeking power through popularity, Frankie flies off on a broomstick, having decided to stick to her guns, and leaves Kevin wandering the dance floor wondering if he did the right thing.

Frankie flies until she ends up in a graveyard, where she finds two skeletons (Ola and Steve). She's lonely so she decides to have another go at using her book of spells to see if she can bring them back to life. Her first attempt only animates the skeletons so she keeps searching for something better while they dance. She finds something at the back of the book that looks promising but she can't quite tell what it does. Deciding she's got nothing to lose, she tries it anyway and...

The skeletons tun into zombies (Pasha and Caroline)! The former skeletons are delighted by their new bodies, even if Frankie's a little bit horrified, and dance around in joy. Frankie eventually loses sight of them as they head off into the distance and end up bumping into...

Mark and Karen, who are trying to work out how to satisfy their flesh-eating Plant. They dance around the zombies and eventually manage to corral them into the corner of the room where the Plant is kept. The zombies stumble as the Plant lunges towards them and devours them both. The Plant however can't digest the magical zombie flesh and dies of indigestion. Mark and Karen celebrate.

Pixie and Trent, however, are less happy. (NB: I'm aware that pixies and fairies are not exactly the same thing but... eh, close enough.) Basically they're Oberon and Titania and Trent had set up the Plant prank for Pixie's entertainment. They have a bit of a row about it (Trent thinks Pixie's been more focussed on other things than him and their dancing recently) and Pixie finishes by turning Anton into a dog and making him fall in love with Judy, who hates dogs.

I don't know, I'm running out of invention here, maybe Judy tries to poison Anton so Simon and Kristina show up to try and warn him. They fail, he dies but then haunts Judy down the ages as in another life they morph into...

Alison and Aljaz, as Cathy and Heathcliffe, Cathy begging to be allowed in while Heathecliffe cruelly shuts her out in the cold.

Sunetra and Brendan finish by giving us a lesson on the theme of the week - Tainted Love.
Camis
01-11-2014
Franglemand - you have thought about this way too much

If only this would happen tonight....
MayD
01-11-2014
Originally Posted by aggs:
“On he understanding it has no basis in any kind of fact or actuality at all, have a squizz at the DOT Manifesto ”

I don't know why you highlighted the bit you did but there's no winning a battle over misplaced pedantry so I'll leave it there
aggs
01-11-2014
Originally Posted by MayD:
“I don't know why you highlighted the bit you did but there's no winning a battle over misplaced pedantry so I'll leave it there ”

I didn't
I just quoted the original post from the first page on here as far as I know.
That's what I intended to do anyway so any pedantry is <in this case> totally unintentional
coppertop1
01-11-2014
Originally Posted by MayD:
“I unappreciate that attitude. Does that allow me to opine here now?”

Just wondering why it is ok to take the piss out off all the contestants, but not Pixie and Frankie? To be honest neither of them interest me and I am not sure either of them will surprise me because they already started out really good.

By the way I really like DVO and quite liked Natalie so it's not that I have anything against "ringers" I just find both rather bland and actually wonder what would happen with the completion if one or both were removed at this early stage

So yourpost on 2 counts hasuzzled me.

If Pixie,or Frankie were to leave I could see the middle grounder really stepping,up to the plate.

Am off out now so if you reply I am not ignoring you, I just really wondered why you took exception to that post
MayD
01-11-2014
Originally Posted by coppertop1:
“I just really wondered why you took exception to that post”

Hard to explain in detail but I hope these do it.

See http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...8&postcount=10

Secondly, I would personally prefer a dancing competition with all good/decent dancers and no complete duffers (eg Mills, Widdecombe, Sargeant) from the beginning and the best/better dancers staying in it each week. We definitely don't have that*.

Thirdly, I really can't see the logic or sense in wanting a scenario that will end up with one of the better pairings leaving simply because it'll P off the jooges

BTW, I wasn't singling Camis out as a DS poster. I think the same about all the eejits voting to keep Mills etc in because it's supposedly entertaining to watch them making complete arses of themselves

* I'm not holding my breath that we'll EVER get that so I'm a realist
aggs
01-11-2014
Originally Posted by MayD:
“Hard to explain in detail but I hope this does it. I would personally prefer a dancing competition with all good/decent dancers and no duffers (eg Mills, Widdecombe, Sargeant) from the beginning and the best/better dancers staying in it each week. We definitely don't have that*. Secondly, I really can't see the logic or sense in wanting a scenario that will end up with one of the better pairings leaving simply because it'll P off the jooges

* I'm not holding my breath that we'll EVER get that so I'm a realist

BTW, I wasn't singling Camis out as a DS poster. I think the same about all the idiots voting to keep Mills etc in because it's supposedly entertaining to watch them making complete arses of themselves”

It's becuase it's what the show has been about since it was dreamt up as Sports Relief Charity money spinner to capitalise on the fad for seeing celebs learn to do things out of their comfort zone and a film, and starred Chris Parker and his Batman cape in the final. That's it. It's now a feel good Saturday night entertainment show that is different things to it's many different viewers (most of who, don't venture through the DS portal).

If the people in BBC Strictly Towers wanted a dance competition/procession that's what they would offer, but they obviously don't. They want family bums on seats through the autum to Christmas with a bit of cross publicity for various soap storylines and shows. The celebs are - or used to be at least - auditioned so the Cast Picker Elves are more than aware of the calibre of celeb they are hiring and the consequences.

When it comes down to it, they have exactly what they want for their target market.
MayD
01-11-2014
Originally Posted by aggs:
“When it comes down to it, they have exactly what they want for their target market.”

I'm only too well aware that they are pitching it to compete with the likes of X Factor and as long as the viewing figures are higher that's what they'll serve up. However, who's to say that an offering closer to what I've described wouldn't trump it in terms of viewing figures just as much if not more so.

But then, if millions of people want to watch the delusional volunteer participants on ITV I guess they'll probably want to do the same on the BBC albeit by picking them themselves.

What's a girl to do eh? Ho hum
Rednell
01-11-2014
Also, the no-hoper "comedy contestants" get whinged about on here, and in the mainstream press and the official facebook page which generates interest and viewing figures. I fear it'll only get worse unless ratings drop sharply. The hypothetical dance off between Pixie and Frankie is harmless, but it appeals to those of us with a sadistic streak who want to see the fallout from having to choose between them, as opposed to any real dislike of the contestants themselves.

On a different note, I have finally caught up with Saturday's show. May I unappreciate how much rubbish and filler there is? I condensed an hour and a half into about 20 minutes.

I also unappreciate Judy's legs for being so nice and not being attached to the jelus hatah that is I.
tabithakitten
01-11-2014
I'd like to see a Pixie and Frankie dance off too but not just yet.

Semi-final would suit me, allowing one of Sunetra, Steve, Simon or even Mark (big metrosexual wuss though he is ) to scrape through to the final week.

Pixie and Frankie cover too many of the same bases. We don't need them both in the final week. (I'm not sure we needed them both at all but that's just me. I'd have liked another "good" bloke.) You never know, it might also convince the producers to scrap the dance off a week earlier. I don't like it in the semi-final anyway.
aggs
01-11-2014
Originally Posted by MayD:
“I'm only too well aware that they are pitching it to compete with the likes of X Factor and as long as the viewing figures are higher that's what they'll serve up. However, who's to say that an offering closer to what I've described wouldn't trump it in terms of viewing figures just as much if not more so.

But then, if millions of people want to watch the delusional volunteer participants on ITV I guess they'll probably want to do the same on the BBC albeit by picking them themselves.

What's a girl to do eh? Ho hum ”

I suppose at some point there has to be an acceptance that if there was a 9 million plus Saturday night, 3 month, audience for it then one of the major - and not so major channels, more than likely - would have given it a go by now.

For all its popularity in other countries, So You Think You Can Dance didn't take off here - and Strictly Dance Fever was a bit of a miss - so it seems that what the people sitting down to watch the tele after tea on a winter Saturday want is celebs learning to dance-slash-making a bit of a idiot of themselves, sparkles and panto.
tabithakitten
01-11-2014
Originally Posted by MayD:
“Hard to explain in detail but I hope these do it.

See http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...8&postcount=10

Secondly, I would personally prefer a dancing competition with all good/decent dancers and no complete duffers (eg Mills, Widdecombe, Sargeant) from the beginning and the best/better dancers staying in it each week. We definitely don't have that*.

Thirdly, I really can't see the logic or sense in wanting a scenario that will end up with one of the better pairings leaving simply because it'll P off the jooges

BTW, I wasn't singling Camis out as a DS poster. I think the same about all the eejits voting to keep Mills etc in because it's supposedly entertaining to watch them making complete arses of themselves

* I'm not holding my breath that we'll EVER get that so I'm a realist”

I don't mind people voting to keep Scott and the likes in because of entertainment value. I see about as much entertainment value in him as being kicked repeatedly in the crotch whilst being forced to watch Blulu singing "Shout" at full volume and being forced fed semolina. However, others have different views and that's fine. If they genuinely see entertainment in a bloke with no ability looking like he wants to be anywhere else but on the dancefloor being dragged round by a thirty odd year old Disney princess gurning like Les Dawson so be it. Let them enjoy themselves.

What I don't appreciate is people voting for these contestants simply because they feel sorry for them because either the judges or the nasty people on here have been horrible to them. (There is evidence that this happens ).

I also don't appreciate those who jump on a "save the worst" bandwagon and vote without reference to the programme, the contestant or the performance. (There is no solid evidence that this happens although it is suspected ).

However, again this is their prerogative. If someone can be @rsed to register online and click the little button for Scott (or whomever) just for the craic, fair enough. I think they're daft but fair enough.
zedders
01-11-2014
Oi! Who let a serious discussion in? Don't we have staff to stop this kind of thing??

(Who are the staff anyway, the barracks are full of booze)
tabithakitten
01-11-2014
Originally Posted by zedders:
“Oi! Who let a serious discussion in? Don't we have staff to stop this kind of thing??

(Who are the staff anyway, the barracks are full of booze)”

Sorry miss.

I did try and keep an irreverent, unappreciative tone to my seriousness. I have been duly admonished though. I'll try not to do it again. *buggers off to barracks to drink booze and cavort with staff*
aggs
01-11-2014
Originally Posted by zedders:
“Oi! Who let a serious discussion in? Don't we have staff to stop this kind of thing??

(Who are the staff anyway, the barracks are full of booze)”

It's cos there are no dress rehersal pictures to point and laugh at <pouts>
Camis
01-11-2014
Originally Posted by zedders:
“Oi! Who let a serious discussion in? Don't we have staff to stop this kind of thing??

(Who are the staff anyway, the barracks are full of booze)”

Originally Posted by aggs:
“It's cos there are no dress rehersal pictures to point and laugh at <pouts>”

I think Hugh is still in the cage somewhere *looks in Perdie's direction*. Robert might have escaped, Gordon gave up under the stress. As long as there is still booze, I'm happy.

Yes, what happened to the dress rehearsal pics? Used to offer plenty of Saturday afternoon unappreciation. Although, maybe that's why they've stopped releasing them...
Monaogg
01-11-2014
Unappreciating no Claudia tonight as one of her children is ill.

Stuck with the hyper Zoe instead.
Camis
01-11-2014
Originally Posted by Monaogg:
“Unappreciating no Claudia tonight as one of her children is ill.

Stuck with the hyper Zoe instead. ”

You beat me to it - was just coming to say the same thing.

They should have used Iveta instead...
aggs
01-11-2014
Originally Posted by Monaogg:
“Unappreciating no Claudia tonight as one of her children is ill.

Stuck with the hyper Zoe instead. ”

You mean, they had a chance to use a man, but still stuck to the two wimmins format
tortoiseperson
01-11-2014
Is it the first time Zoe's handled the main show? it's a bit of a stretch from scripted ITT
aggs
01-11-2014
Originally Posted by Camis:
“I think Hugh is still in the cage somewhere *looks in Perdie's direction*. Robert might have escaped, Gordon gave up under the stress. As long as there is still booze, I'm happy.

Yes, what happened to the dress rehearsal pics? Used to offer plenty of Saturday afternoon unappreciation. Although, maybe that's why they've stopped releasing them...”

Worst evvvvahhh was seeing Natalie's jive dress rehersal hair and then having to forgo the reality
aggs
01-11-2014
Originally Posted by tortoiseperson:
“Is it the first time Zoe's handled the main show? it's a bit of a stretch from scripted ITT”

She's done live tele and radio before, though - and last week kinda showed she's better on ITT without the pesky script

(And don't forget The Kerplunsky did maternity leave cover for Tess in series 2, so ...)
Monkseal
01-11-2014
Please please let this be the first step towards Zoe replacing Tess please please please...
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