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Old 10-10-2015, 21:09
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Old 10-10-2015, 21:09
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Jay has fantastic feel for music which no amount of training could teach him. And no amount of contemporary could get him to jive like that. He's just that good, and now I'm in the position of praying for OurLeona to get this right. And that feels so very strange!
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Old 10-10-2015, 21:10
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Absolutely agree - don't care if it is week 1 or week 15 - if it is worth a 10 then give a 10.

Not only was Jay topping the leader board but Peter Andre showed tonight why he should not win - he really isn't that good.
Aww, you mean Janette adopting the KevinCliftoncopyrighted 'Save Me' ooening (although sadly without the PE socks and plimsolls costuming) with Mr Punch being the ultimate dope on a rope didn't have you reaching for the 10 paddle?
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Old 10-10-2015, 21:10
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Am I the only one laughing at the thought of dressing Krotchtina as virginal Sandy?!
I'm very late to the party but no, you weren't the only one. I was thinking exactly the same thing.

Did anyone else get sick of hearing "you've worked so hard" or "we've worked so hard"? As if that somehow makes up for lack of technique/skill/whatever. And as for P.Duh - how can a singer have so little musicality? I don't understand it.

Thank god for Claudia, and Jay, in tonight's show - they made it bearable.
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Old 10-10-2015, 21:12
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Aww, you mean Janette adopting the KevinCliftoncopyrighted 'Save Me' ooening (although sadly without the PE socks and plimsolls costuming) with Mr Punch being the ultimate dope on a rope didn't have you reaching for the 10 paddle?
Nope, it didn't!
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Old 10-10-2015, 21:13
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No, you're fine, that dance, wow (yes i seem to have lost the power of speech)

Jill's jive has finally been beaten. And bless Aliona, that was fab choreography
Also speechless! Agrees and quietly drags in another 14 cases of sparkling chardonay in case stocks are down after that brilliant game earlier!



PS: Leaving giant packs of "Resolve" for tomorrow morning !
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Old 10-10-2015, 21:16
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Jay has fantastic feel for music which no amount of training could teach him. And no amount of contemporary could get him to jive like that. He's just that good, and now I'm in the position of praying for OurLeona to get this right.
He is a natural. No amount of stage school commercial dance can help you get the jive right. You have to have what it takes to 'get it'. He just has it.

Does not matter how much people bleat on about him being 'trained'. He wasn't. That stage school stuff does not make you an exceptional dancer, unless you have an innate talent. And even then you'd have to go and get some proper training afterwards.

There is NO substitute for sheer talent and ability.
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Also speechless! Agrees and quietly drags in another 14 cases of sparkling chardonay in case stocks are down after that brilliant game earlier!



PS: Leaving giant packs of "Resolve" for tomorrow morning !

We'll be feeling no pain for a while I suspect, but thank you hun 😘😘😘
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Jay has fantastic feel for music which no amount of training could teach him. And no amount of contemporary could get him to jive like that. He's just that good, and now I'm in the position of praying for OurLeona to get this right.
You don't dance like that without a real feel for the music and a natural talent . I'm actually getting some trust with Ourleona when it comes to choreography, that jive was so good and so full on. Really want to see their paso now
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Old 10-10-2015, 21:18
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Me too! I have never been so gutted that someone famous had died.

Poor Giovanni, he was so nervous his hair was sweating as much as his face tonight!
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Old 10-10-2015, 21:19
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I wish Peter and Jeanette had done a Scarface theme. I badly want to have her say (in her genuine Cuban accent and with Sweet'n'Lo all over her face) "Say hello to my little friend", then pretend to mow P'duh down with a rhinestone encrusted M50. That would really have made my evening.


Love that image!
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Old 10-10-2015, 21:21
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You don't dance like that without a real feel for the music and a natural talent . I'm actually getting some trust with Ourleona when it comes to choreography, that jive was so good and so full on. Really want to see their paso now
Jaypet and Mr Punch. Both singers/musicians. One can feel the music and one .... can't.

After that jive, I am tentatively prepared to trust OurLeona.
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Old 10-10-2015, 21:23
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PDuh and Jay - a veritable Grand Canyon between them.

PDuh's frightful, mangled stomping and quite ridiculous boots - and then Jay's super cool, slick, beautiful, sexy, laid-back jive.

A world apart.
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Old 10-10-2015, 21:26
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PDuh and Jay - a veritable Grand Canyon between them.

PDuh's frightful, mangled stomping and quite ridiculous boots - and then Jay's super cool, slick, beautiful, sexy, laid-back jive.

A world apart.

They certainly are.

It has been a very bad week for PDuh - first, his court case, then his dance - which showed very clearly he isn't the best dancer. I almost feel sorry for PA.

Somehow I don't think the West End Musicals are going to beat a path to his door - think this is what he has been hoping for.

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Old 10-10-2015, 21:31
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I am imagining a massive backstage strop by Kellie a la Violet Elizabeth Bott."Shriek, I was the best, Shriek I had the highest score, Shriek, I had props Shriek and TTF playing with his light sabre Shriek, Shriek,Shriek"
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Old 10-10-2015, 21:31
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Am I the only one laughing at the thought of dressing Krotchtina as virginal Sandy?!
No you weren't.

I then had to explain to my tween kids why I found it so funny.
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Old 10-10-2015, 21:35
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I'm wondering whether PDuh is being lined up for the 'praised to the high heavens until the quarterfinals when the judges suddenly decide to judge him properly' storyline. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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Old 10-10-2015, 21:37
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He is a natural. No amount of stage school commercial dance can help you get the jive right. You have to have what it takes to 'get it'. He just has it.

Does not matter how much people bleat on about him being 'trained'. He wasn't. That stage school stuff does not make you an exceptional dancer, unless you have an innate talent. And even then you'd have to go and get some proper training afterwards.

There is NO substitute for sheer talent and ability.
This.

I could not agree more.


A friend of mine trained intensely for 6 years to play violin. She was astonished when she found out that just after one session my Sevillanas teacher told my mum that I needed to be fast tracked to flamenco second year because I was really "born with it". My friend was astonished because after 5 ½ years her teacher said she had made progress and she maybe could make it into a decent violin player. She could not understand that for the arts talent is innate and no amount of teaching can give you that special thing.

(my mum did not listen and my dream of learning flamenco at a reasonable young age disappeared )
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Old 10-10-2015, 21:37
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I'm wondering whether PDuh is being lined up for the 'praised to the high heavens until the quarterfinals when the judges suddenly decide to judge him properly' storyline. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.



Anyone else feel like his comments didn't match his scores? The judges were all "your performance is amazing, what a showstopper" then gave him 7s (even though it barely warranted 5s)
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Old 10-10-2015, 21:40
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I am imagining a massive backstage strop by Kellie a la Violet Elizabeth Bott."Shriek, I was the best, Shriek I had the highest score, Shriek, I had props Shriek and TTF playing with his light sabre Shriek, Shriek,Shriek"
Oh I think we can bank on that sue21! Ooh! the racket. TTF will be furious and will sulk for hours.

Frankly they were just naff tonight. Ghastly charleston and sodding light sabres!. her costume was vile too.

How I laughed - and then fast forwarded it!
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Old 10-10-2015, 21:40
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I'm wondering whether PDuh is being lined up for the 'praised to the high heavens until the quarterfinals when the judges suddenly decide to judge him properly' storyline. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Mr Punch seems to be occupying the slot of comments not matching scores at the minute. Listening to his comments, you wouldn't think he was actually 5th on the leaderboard. Even Jamilia was only about 3 points behind his total score.

Edit - yes me too, Alli

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Old 10-10-2015, 21:40
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I hate jives. I hate them with passion. All of them.

Until JayPet and Ourleona go and do that.

It's not only how he danced it is the little details and the "acting" in the dance that he performed so well.

Amazing. (I still hate jives, just not this one)
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Old 10-10-2015, 21:41
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Anyone else feel like his comments didn't match his scores? The judges were all "your performance is amazing, what a showstopper" then gave him 7s (even though it barely warranted 5s)
I thought they were trying to gently manage the expectations of the audience, who went batshit for it because of the flashy woo woo lights, fog machines and idiotic Hallowe'en costumes. I wasn't surprised by the scores tbh.
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Old 10-10-2015, 21:44
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This.

I could not agree more.


A friend of mine trained intensely for 6 years to play violin. She was astonished when she found out that just after one session my Sevillanas teacher told my mum that I needed to be fast tracked to flamenco second year because I was really "born with it". My friend was astonished because after 5 ½ years her teacher said she had made progress and she maybe could make it into a decent violin player. She could not understand that for the arts talent is innate and no amount of teaching can give you that special thing.

(my mum did not listen and my dream of learning flamenco at a reasonable young age disappeared )
I am so sad that you did not move on to study flamenco seriously. Dancing flamenco is in the soul. You know better than anyone that you cannot teach duende. I so wish you had had your chance!
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