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Brekkie
13-02-2016
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Well that one injury in itself should be enough.
Are we to gauge how acceptable it is based on how many broken necks there are?
Two? Ten? Six?
You say 'only' as if that one injury isn't significant because there's only one.”

Out of interest when was the last time you got into a car?
pothuthic
13-02-2016
They've already sent Zara Holland home
oathy
13-02-2016
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Oh my god!!! I really thought you must have been joking.

Hang on a minute while I pinch myself to see if I'm dreaming.
Anything that can go wrong seems to be going wrong.

Really though, how well is this show handling itself if it's bringing in new celebrities who haven't been training like the original celebrities have?”

LMAO.. Not at the injury but the sheer farce this has become.
its been mentioned a few times I really do think making the series nightly focuses the mind of them. they don't have chance to view this as a long term break (with a bit of work thrown in on a sunday).

Wonder if they will bring back former winners and pretend its some amazing planned twist.
JordanC55
13-02-2016
I think they sent Zara home because of what's happened to Joe, how can they say she doesn't meet the standard when Arg does?! That's embarrassing.

Guess they're wanting to stop the injuries from going into double figures.
Alrightmate
13-02-2016
Originally Posted by Anne_Cameron:
“I understood that Joe and the other new participants are having intensive training and will be assessed on their levels of skill and ability to take part in the show before Sunday.

I am pretty sure that they know what they are in for when they sign up for the show. Even I know that winter sports of any kind are potentially dangerous and need to be taken seriously at whatever level.”

If Joe Swash wasn't a stand-in he won't have been training before the series started.
He might be training now, obviously. But I think it's a bit late in the day for brand new people to learn things on the hoof.
This is a very dangerous game Channel 4 are playing.

No they won't know what they're in for. If they aren't familiar with snow-cross or ski jumping then they won't know jack shit.
I know the excuse is always that people volunteered to take part in these things, but that's irrelevant when the show itself has to be culpable for the decisions they make. It's not enough to say that the contestants are idiots anyway who the show just happened to have exploited.
gilesb
13-02-2016
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Well what does that tell us? They present something to us on the show as though they are updating us with the latest inside info. But in reality are getting their information from what's reported elsewhere?
They should know. It's their show. They should be keeping tabs on what's going on with their contestants. If they aren't then it demonstrates that they don't really care about them.
They shouldn't be referring to press reports to find out what's going on with their own show.”

No, as I said it was the line from her parents. I believe that they should be reporting what Beth and her parents want to be reported about her injury and not what you may think should have been reported.
moonlily
13-02-2016
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“I don't know what to make of that reply.
You seem to be kind of making out that I support The Grand National and horses having their necks broken,.....therefore humans breaking their necks in this is fine as they weren't forced to take part.

What on earth makes you think I'd be dead set against the Grand National being scrapped?

This is one show where I'd say that the contestants don't really know what they're in for.
I think they'll trust that good people will be looking after them to ensure that they're as safe as can be, they'll be assuming that safety will be of prime concern for the show, and naturally believe that the show wouldn't allow crew members to get in the path of contestants during training jumps.

I think it will be next year when people will question the mental faculties of celebrities who choose to take part.”

No - I didn't think you be against the National being scrapped, I didn't mean that- it's just there's always far more horror and outrage when it's people.

This show is called The Jump for a reason- they know what they're taking part in and it's up to them and their agents to make sure the safety precautions are adequate.
Alrightmate
13-02-2016
Originally Posted by moonlily:
“No - I didn't think you be against the National being scrapped, I didn't mean that- it's just there's always far more horror and outrage when it's people.

This show is called The Jump for a reason- they know what they're taking part in and it's up to them and their agents to make sure the safety precautions are adequate.”

They have a personal responsibility for sure, but when it comes to personal, legal, ethical, and any other responsibility the onus is on the programme makers and Channel 4.
SH1965
14-02-2016
The amount and severity of the injuries is ridiculous. The show needs to be axed.
WhoAteMeDinner
14-02-2016
Yep, it certainly does, has any Channel 4 recurring series ever declined so dramatically as this show has ? Last series was excellent, very few bad injuries and a great competition between the lovely Made in Chelsea girl and Joey Essex.

How has it gone so badly awry ? Change in producers or what ?
niceguy1966
14-02-2016
Originally Posted by WhoAteMeDinner:
“Yep, it certainly does, has any Channel 4 recurring series ever declined so dramatically as this show has ? Last series was excellent, very few bad injuries and a great competition between the lovely Made in Chelsea girl and Joey Essex.

How has it gone so badly awry ? Change in producers or what ?”

Change of format to weekly shows. The celebs are out there much longer, so more opportunity for accidents (and more opportunity for the celebs to lose focus).
JohnStannard
14-02-2016
I don't think it needs axing and should return next year with it going back to nightly and making sure the celebs get the required amount of practise. Apart from Beth's injury there has been nothing more serious than the injuries in other series. Also the events may need to be simplified
Janet43
14-02-2016
With all the publicity abut the injuries, I suspect the viewing figures will go up this week because of the ghouls hoping something fatal will happen.
Maccadanny
14-02-2016
Originally Posted by JohnStannard:
“I don't think it needs axing and should return next year with it going back to nightly and making sure the celebs get the required amount of practise. Apart from Beth's injury there has been nothing more serious than the injuries in other series. Also the events may need to be simplified”

No way will it be returning next year, it will be axed.
LightningIguana
14-02-2016
I want to laugh, but in a disbelieving sort of way...
Anne_Cameron
14-02-2016
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“If Joe Swash wasn't a stand-in he won't have been training before the series started.
He might be training now, obviously. But I think it's a bit late in the day for brand new people to learn things on the hoof.
This is a very dangerous game Channel 4 are playing.

No they won't know what they're in for. If they aren't familiar with snow-cross or ski jumping then they won't know jack shit.
I know the excuse is always that people volunteered to take part in these things, but that's irrelevant when the show itself has to be culpable for the decisions they make. It's not enough to say that the contestants are idiots anyway who the show just happened to have exploited.”

I meant that they were having intensive bouts of training this week and it's possible though I do not know that they may already be skiers, so at least have a head start.

As Ola said on 'This Morning' - nobody forced her to sign up, she knew it was dangerous and still went ahead. The 'celebs' can't all be morons and think that it will be gluwhein and fondue in the hotel for six weeks. They will have had it explained to them by the production team and again by their agent before they make any decision to take part in the show.

My guess is that some of them this year thought it might just be a six week jolly and didn't calculate the possible risks associated with these sports.

The big jump is frightening even to onlookers and you could see the fear in Linford Christie's eyes when he tried but refused to jump. I'm not saying it is easy, but having signed up for it they should do what's asked of them. I have greater respect for the ones that give it a go even though they are not that great.

Of course the production team have to ensure the best possible safety conditions, but even world class winter sports people break arms, legs etc in freak accidents.

What do you want them to do - be wrapped up in cotton wool and not take part when it's too cold?
Brekkie
14-02-2016
Originally Posted by niceguy1966:
“Change of format to weekly shows. The celebs are out there much longer, so more opportunity for accidents (and more opportunity for the celebs to lose focus).”

It is a change they probably made with the thinking it would make it safer, giving the celebs more time to learn each individual element and concentrate on them in the week before the event, rather than learning them all and competing in them across the week.

A quick google though suggests running, horse riding and tennis are all ten times more likely to cause you death than taking part in skiing. The sky diving which opens most years of I'm a Celeb is 15 more times likely to kill you than skiing.
LightningIguana
14-02-2016
My concern is about those celebs who can ski. There's a big difference between holiday skiing and competitive and it makes me wonder if that has given some of them a bravado they don't have the skills to back up.

Someone who's never worn skis will be naturally more cautious than someone who has.
Rich Tea.
14-02-2016
Originally Posted by Maccadanny:
“No way will it be returning next year, it will be axed.”

Of course it will be.

As any kind of meaningful competition it is a pure joke now. Literally being made up on the hoof as it goes along.
Lucy_James
14-02-2016
Originally Posted by duffsdad:
“I waskind of the same, watching attention seekers going down on their arse was kind of funny. But then I watched the footage of Rebecca and it is one of the most upsetting things ever. She's a nice girl, probably did it for the challenge and the sight of her in so much distress upset me and I turned it over. Wont be watching again.”

Im not watching tonight because im out for vday with the bf but i wouldnt watch it now anyway its just ridiculous the amount of injuries its not funny any more
WhoAteMeDinner
14-02-2016
Yeh the Beth Tweddle injury was way to serious for a laugh and joke celeb show that the this has become. I think their lack of taking it seriously has contributed to the injuries.

There is no chance it is being renewed, the ratings are tanking.
rhumble
14-02-2016
I agree with what someone said in The Sun, its not even a overly exciting program, the events are slow and don't come across well on TV, yet people are getting seriously injured for it, its a waste of time. ( having said that there is sod all else on tonight )
JohnStannard
14-02-2016
if theres anyone left in 3 weeks for the final who do people think will win?
lewismacf
14-02-2016
Originally Posted by JohnStannard:
“if theres anyone left in 3 weeks for the final who do people think will win?”

Tom Sarah or Joe
JohnStannard
14-02-2016
Originally Posted by lewismacf:
“Tom Sarah or Joe”

I would go Tom Sarah or maybe Heather?
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