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Old 28-02-2016, 20:56
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How are these jumps comparable????
Really Good Question
thank god at least a few of them are doing the proper jump even if that's dribbling off the end of it.

They can jump around as much as they like. Heather Mill's hair is the most scary thing about tonight.
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Old 28-02-2016, 20:56
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Heather moving quite well for someone with a damaged knee.
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Old 28-02-2016, 20:57
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Bryan: 'I'm leaving alive',

THAT should be the new name of this show!!
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Old 28-02-2016, 20:57
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How was Brian ever going to go through doing the air jump?

The best air jump won't beat the worst ski jump.
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Old 28-02-2016, 20:57
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"Say goodbye to Brian everybody"

Davina presenting as if its CBeebies
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Old 28-02-2016, 20:58
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Well, at least most of us have made it this far without serious injury... physical if not mental.
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Old 28-02-2016, 20:58
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How was Brian ever going to go through doing the air jump?
By default if the non air jumpers broke their necks
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Old 28-02-2016, 20:59
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By default if the non air jumpers broke their necks
Yeah. I think that's the only way.
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Old 28-02-2016, 21:01
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I reckon they told Brian to do the "pillow" jump knowing it is almost impossible to go very high (even if he did beat the record) just so there would be a woman in the final...
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Old 28-02-2016, 21:07
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It's back to 90 mins next week (7.30-10.00)
That's 150 minutes, not 90 minutes!!!!!
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Old 28-02-2016, 21:07
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I reckon they told Brian to do the "pillow" jump knowing it is almost impossible to go very high (even if he did beat the record) just so there would be a woman in the final...
Thing is, if he'd (very theoretically) air jumped 13 metres plus, he'd have cleared the air bag and in effect done a ski jump anyway.

And killed himself.

Maybe next series.
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Old 28-02-2016, 21:07
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How was Brian ever going to go through doing the air jump?

The best air jump won't beat the worst ski jump.
Ski jump has a high chance of a fall, air jump doesn't. If you fall on the ski jump you get 0 and will lose to the safer air jump. Bryan likely couldn't do the ski jump well so was hoping someone would fall and he would get through. As we saw in the intron to the jumps two fell in past competitions and were eliminated.
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Old 28-02-2016, 21:14
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Why on earth is Sid second favourite with some bookies?!
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Old 28-02-2016, 21:19
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That's 150 minutes, not 90 minutes!!!!!
Sorry Anne, I meant 7.30-9.00
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Old 28-02-2016, 21:20
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Sorry Anne, I meant 7.30-9.00
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Old 28-02-2016, 21:52
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oooops switched over during the last ad break and forgot to switch back.
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Old 28-02-2016, 22:10
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I actually think Brian was happy to go, same with Sarah Harding, she didn't look that injured but they both come out of the show unscathed.
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Old 28-02-2016, 22:42
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I actually think Brian was happy to go, same with Sarah Harding, she didn't look that injured but they both come out of the show unscathed.
It seems the main flaw of the insurance is doesn't cover what happens after the show ends. If they are out of action for many months its not covered Most of these seem to just go from one Reality show to the next, And assuming Brian is still doing that Come dine with me clone on ITV.
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Old 28-02-2016, 23:57
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http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/the-jum...e-on-the-jump/

Seriously ? Its bad enough the Carry on Films have all but been eviscerated
Remember the Days C4 would relish something like this. Its about one of the most exciting things that happened this series.

the way it was being reported in the papers you half expected seeing him look like Frankenstein
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Old 29-02-2016, 02:52
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How are these jumps comparable????
Is it even possible to air jump higher than 14 metres?
I mean really, is it literally possible? Does the measuring thingy even go that high?

They're insulting our intelligence by having us wait with excitement to see if an air jump is higher than the length of a ski jump.
In what universe would that even be possible?
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Old 29-02-2016, 02:58
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http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/the-jum...e-on-the-jump/

Seriously ? Its bad enough the Carry on Films have all but been eviscerated
Remember the Days C4 would relish something like this. Its about one of the most exciting things that happened this series.

the way it was being reported in the papers you half expected seeing him look like Frankenstein
Digital Spy are reporting that as news???

I can't believe that people make a fuss over somebody saying shit at about 8.30pm.
Sometimes it when presenters like Davina draw attention to a slip like that which makes it appear worse than it is.
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Old 29-02-2016, 06:52
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Thing is, if he'd (very theoretically) air jumped 13 metres plus, he'd have cleared the air bag and in effect done a ski jump anyway.

And killed himself.

Maybe next series.
Is it even possible to air jump higher than 14 metres?
I mean really, is it literally possible? Does the measuring thingy even go that high?

They're insulting our intelligence by having us wait with excitement to see if an air jump is higher than the length of a ski jump.
In what universe would that even be possible?
As the post above, he'd describe an arc that would carry him way beyond the pillow.
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Old 29-02-2016, 08:35
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Is it even possible to air jump higher than 14 metres?
I mean really, is it literally possible? Does the measuring thingy even go that high?

They're insulting our intelligence by having us wait with excitement to see if an air jump is higher than the length of a ski jump.
In what universe would that even be possible?
One thing that is certain is that they cannot possibly go higher than the height at which they started from. simply on the conservation of energy. At the top of the jump they have maximum potential energy and zero kinetic energy. As they travel down the slope this potential energy is converted to kinetic energy and they will speed up. As they rise up the take off ramp they slow down. But because there is inevitably energy loss due to friction, they cannot possibly reach the height at which they started from as there is no additional energy input.

I think.

It was a bit silly last night when Davina was "bigging up" Brian's jump. saying it was the highest air jump they'd ever had, as if that meant it had any more chance to beat the ski jumpers. it was still about three or four metres shorter than the shortest of the ski jumps.

As Sarah is now out I will not be bothering to watch the final.

Of the six women that started the show, only one made the final and only one was eliminated in the normal way. The other four had to withdraw due to injury. In addition the female replacement also had to withdraw. The attrition rate for the men was slightly less.
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Old 29-02-2016, 09:14
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Why on earth is Sid second favourite with some bookies?!
He isn't.

The bookies have Tom favourite at about Even money and Dean at 2/1. Tom Parker has been favourite since after about the second week. Sid Owen is available at as big as 10/1 with Betfred.

Incidentally don't expect to be able to get any sizable bets on. Bookies won't take big bets on this sort of thing. it's usually tenners and twenties, fifty at the most.

Years ago when it was rumoured that some charity single (it might have been one of the Band Aid ones) might be happening, the bookies started to get enquiries from music industry people who had no previous gambling form trying to open accounts and then get bets of hundreds and even in some cases thousands of pounds on it being the Christmas No1. Not surprisingly hardly any of them got on. People who know nothing about gambling think you can just walk into a betting shop or open an account, ask about a price on some obscure event,and then place an enormous bet with no questions asked.

It doesn't work like that.
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Old 29-02-2016, 10:35
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One thing that is certain is that they cannot possibly go higher than the height at which they started from. simply on the conservation of energy. At the top of the jump they have maximum potential energy and zero kinetic energy. As they travel down the slope this potential energy is converted to kinetic energy and they will speed up. As they rise up the take off ramp they slow down. But because there is inevitably energy loss due to friction, they cannot possibly reach the height at which they started from as there is no additional energy input.

I think.

It was a bit silly last night when Davina was "bigging up" Brian's jump. saying it was the highest air jump they'd ever had, as if that meant it had any more chance to beat the ski jumpers. it was still about three or four metres shorter than the shortest of the ski jumps..
I'd love to see Davina explain that.

I have no idea what is being measured - as you say relative to the ?flat? pillow no skier is going to "fly" much higher than they were at the point of take off - with very little differential between doing it well or badly.

In a ski jump the landing area slopes away at pretty much the same incline as the runway before levelling off in the stopping zone. In that case the "jump height" - say the drop between take off and landing point would depend totally on the distance jumped.
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