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Old 01-09-2014, 15:54
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Sorry, but there is discussion going on in various threads and I certainly don't want to do this on the Change Log, so I thought I'd create a thread for the numerous changes that have been made today for general discussion and observations. I am finding that various sets are treating this in different ways, as usual.

The radio stations have me confused. Most sets have dumped the duplicates in the 790s, so I assume these LCNs are being broadcast. I have found the version of Magic on 715 broadcasting different programming to the version on 795 (which is presumably the original 715 but renumbered). Also, on all the stations that have changed mux, using the correct LCNs, e.g. 715, the sound is muted once the MHEG loads.
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Old 01-09-2014, 16:02
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It seems that 715 is labelled Magic but the audio is Smooth.

Someone's boobed.
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Old 01-09-2014, 16:05
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It seems that 715 is labelled Magic but the audio is Smooth.

Someone's boobed.
and the same on Ch 801 on Mendip!!
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Old 01-09-2014, 16:11
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and the same on Ch 801 on Mendip!!
I would guess that your 801 is actually 715 and what is on 715 is actually 795, if you get my drift. Some sets will renumber the channels correctly, others will put the new versions in the 800s because the "correct" LCN is still occupied. A rescan would sort that out so that you were getting Smooth on Magic's LCN of 715
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Old 01-09-2014, 16:12
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What DigitalUK channel updates says

ITVBe launched on LCN 26 (SDN/COM4)
ITV4+1 moved to LCN 62 (SDN/COM4)
POP+1 moved to ARQ A
ITV Border regions were renamed
Quest+1 moved to ARQ B
Kiss Fresh, Kiss, Kisstory, Magic, Kerrang!
moved to ARQ A
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Old 01-09-2014, 16:14
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Anyone else getting the problem of the radio audio dropping out when the MHEG loads for the channels moved to ARQ A?
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Old 01-09-2014, 16:21
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pop+1 has programme info on the EPG.
also CBS Action has now been added to the freeview website along with Trutv +1
but pop +1 has not been added if you us your postcode.
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Old 01-09-2014, 16:40
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If there really is to be a POP +1 then surely it would be logical for this to be the service available to fewer viewers - i.e. put POP on ARQ A and the +1 channel on the local mux.
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Old 01-09-2014, 16:40
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pop+1 has programme info on the EPG.
So have I, but get a blank screen if I select the channel.
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Old 01-09-2014, 16:41
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So have I, but get a blank screen if I select the channel.
I get a POP+1 Coming Soon MHEG.
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Old 01-09-2014, 16:47
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If there really is to be a POP +1 then surely it would be logical for this to be the service available to fewer viewers - i.e. put POP on ARQ A and the +1 channel on the local mux.
They will probably swap the two over when the ARQ A service launches. It would confuse existing viewers if it happened before launch. Just a case of waiting now.
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Old 01-09-2014, 16:48
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I get a POP+1 Coming Soon MHEG.
Ah, I will look again as I was using my PVR and MHEG was turned off.

Yup, coming real soon now !
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Old 01-09-2014, 17:18
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looks like Magic on ARQ A is now fixed.
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Old 01-09-2014, 17:36
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POP+1 moved to ARQ A
What has happened to the old version on MTN? Greebo?

ITV Border regions were renamed
To what??
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Old 01-09-2014, 18:05
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All very messy at the moment, Hope 3rd September will sort this out.
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Old 01-09-2014, 18:49
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It looks as if the audio quality of the radio channels took a hit at some point. With The Hits, Kiss Fresh, Heat and Kerrang! reduced from 80 kbps mono to 64 kbps mono. Kiss and Magic reduced from 128 kbps JS to 80 kbps mono and Kisstory reduced from 128 kbps JS to 64 kbps mono.
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Old 01-09-2014, 18:57
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Only time you listen to radio stations on Freeview is on holiday in the UK. Rest of the time you listen online.
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Old 01-09-2014, 19:20
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a516 has now posted an update
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Old 01-09-2014, 19:23
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Has the Quest + 1 logo (ch. 38) always had the +1 before the channel name?
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Old 01-09-2014, 19:26
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Has the Quest + 1 logo (ch. 38) always had the +1 before the channel name?
Yes.

PS - summary of changes now in Change Log, thanks to Greebo.
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Old 01-09-2014, 19:39
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The audio setup on 715 Magic is a bit odd. On my Technika HD box, pressing the Audio button shows 2 apparent streams, one Left only and one Right only. They will point to the same stream though.
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Old 01-09-2014, 19:41
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What has happened to the old version on MTN? Greebo?
Sorry all, didn't spot this thread. Thanks kasg for linking to it from the changelog.

chrisy: the POP+1 LCN has been deleted from G_MAN. The audio and video PIDs have been removed already as well, I guess they aren't worried about continuity of service for those few who watched it on G_MAN and haven't rescanned.
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Old 01-09-2014, 20:01
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To overview the current spectrum situation:

There is no space currently on COM4 for ITVBe to launch. Going theory on the forums is Quest will get booted off, but not confirmed.

Quest +1's old slot on COM5 is now vacant, with both Pop +1 and TruTV +1 needing space. One or both will have to timeshare, maybe with each other.

COM6 is broadcasting enough null packets for a 24 hour stream. This is probably going to be CBS Action.

COM7 is full, with TBA 136 taking the final SD slot.

GImux once again has a spare slot thanks to the departure of Pop +1.

Overall, after all the near-future changes and launches, the main DTT multiplexes will be completely full. Arqiva is advertising the availability of multiple slots from mid-November, so some channels are to disappear from our screens.
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Old 01-09-2014, 22:03
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Or compression has got better .... My bet is on another stream at least on each multiplex.
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Old 01-09-2014, 22:27
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It looks as if the audio quality of the radio channels took a hit at some point. With The Hits, Kiss Fresh, Heat and Kerrang! reduced from 80 kbps mono to 64 kbps mono. Kiss and Magic reduced from 128 kbps JS to 80 kbps mono and Kisstory reduced from 128 kbps JS to 64 kbps mono.
Holy moly - Kisstory and Kiss Fresh sound absolutely horrid! Well I guess it's a preview of what they might unfortunately sound like if they launch on DAB eh?
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