couldn't give a s*** about the tories as labour will still be in power after the next election, so the only ones that matter are the present goverment.

Richard park thinks he is more important than he is and as Nick Knowles said parky needs a reality check he is employed to play the part of the headmaster he is not actually "The Headmaster" if FA comes back so will patrick

Unfortunately yes I am , the anti-licence lobbyists will love this bill I can see it now what they'll be saying "not only are we the only country who have to pay for a licence but were now told what we can and can't watch", don't forget it's not only fame academy that faces the chop if this bill goes through. the point is do you think that people only care about fame academy of course not all the other series that are under threat have loyal watchers and knowing our green fingered friends they'll almost definitely be putting protests in to the bbc .

Leaving everything alone at charter-renewal time is not a viable option, and there's a lot of anti-BBC pressure on the government.

There are even polls showing a substantial majority opposed to the licence fee.

However, I don't know whether there are any properly conducted, scientific polls that say that. In any case, the BBC is fighting back. Here's something from an article in today's Guardian:

See http://media.guardian.co.uk/mediagua...436696,00.html

You could make a case that its the same big issue - the case against this government all parties will make is that it interfers in everything and understands nothing, FA is another example.

Would the Tories understand more or interfere less?

Back on the top for more people to support the pettition.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/norfolk/kids/ja...question.shtml


Well he wouldn't admit it online, but he soooo did tell me. And he told my mum, too. Still, he hasn't flat out denied it.

Just added my vote

There will be NO fame academy on BBC so pretty pointless doing a petition

Patrick Kielty gave an interview with the Belfast Telegraph and said that he would not be working on any more series of Fame Academy in the future, and that he wanted to "move on to other things". One of those other things is a pilot for an US network gameshow.

Of course, there's a possibility that his comments are a bit of hardballing ahead of any contractual negotiations for another series.

I reckon FA3 will see the light of day, as long as it concentrates on the instructional and educational side of life in the Academy, as well as highlighting the work of the Fame Academy Bursary in developing young musicians.

Unlike Pop Idol and X Factor, money from the phone votes goes to a worthy end, rather than lining the pockets of Simon Cowell or Simon Fuller.

Oh come now....All politicians need votes...It's how they get elected....so the Tories (notorious bandwagon jumpers that they are....they'll leap pn anything in a humiliating and desperate plea to grub up more votes) are perfectly relevant...Write to them and demand they put FA 3 into their manifesto.....they need those votes!!!!!!!

they're not gonna spend all that money on the academy and not make a 3rd series, we need to email bbc and ask them their plans for the show, i think there is a good chance of new series, maybe with a change to either presenter or judges due to patrick kielty/richard park feud.

Lets hassle the BBC.

By bumping this to the top? Certainly.

There's a website about the BBC charter review at:

http://www.bbccharterreview.org.uk/

This seems to be about the public having a chance to respond to the green paper thats's gone out. The questionnaire and documents seem to be quite wordy and possibly hard-going (well, for me anyway!) but there is also an e-mail address: bbccharterreview@culture.gsi.gov.uk

Perhaps if we all e-mail this about Fame Academy as well, someone might sit up and take notice?!
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I hope there is a new series, but really, there isn't much you can do just by having a few people email them.

worth a try though, fame academy has a huge following.
if no-one bothers to get in contact then a 3rd series looks unlikely.

I've just done the questionnaire & quoted one of their aims: "Stimulating creativity and cultural excellence. The licence fee should be used to encourage UK creativity. The BBC should also enrich the country's culture though providing distinctive and original programming, fostering creativity and nurturing talent, and encouraging participation and interest in cultural activity among new audiences" as a valid reason for continuing FA!

Kim's a bit of a sore loser isn't she, if this is true. I just read the following on the showbiz gossip section on Sky news site :


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ANN MONTINI'S SHOWBIZ GOSSIP

Fame Academy runner-up and soap star Kim Medcalf - who plays mad Sam in EastEnders - told my mole that she too could have won the show if she'd received the same exposure that her co-star, Radio One DJ Edith Bowman had.

She revealed: "Every time I tuned in, they were going 'vote Edith' all the time but I couldn't get that in the script at EastEnders now could I?"

I am one of Edith's biggest fans, but she is right, Edith couldn't have won without Radio One on Red Nose Day. With lines closing at 7pm, they had a great oppertunity to make Edith win.

The problem is the "unique and distinctive" requirement. Fame Academy is unique and distinctive but the BBC has to deem it such.

The wider point is that the whole thing is deliberately vague to the point of being meaningless. I]Educational[/i] is written vaguely in order to defend Eastender's by arguing that people learn about 101 deadly diseases through Dot's life. Unique includes Strictly Come Dancing even though it comes from concepts as old as Come Dancing and the Generation Game and even borrows the Gen Game's star. The BBC's stable of hospital dramas is safe because it is distinctive even though Holby and Casualty are interchangeable with US shows like ER or the ITV equivalent. The whole thing is a nonsense as most programmes have existed at some point on other channels or have direct equivalents there or are done in similar forms on the same channel. You can't apply logic that can't be defined and if you took this requirement literally there would be no Eastenders, no Casualty, no Top of the Pops. no detective thrillers, no Crime watch - in fact you probably would just have the Sky at Night and news in between.

Basically under this proposal you can define anything anyway you want - unless its politically risky. Fame Academy is no exception - it clearly meets every requirement in the new charter. Its problem is that people who never watched it have made it an example of a derivative programme by saying it is Pop Idol. You either have to point out it isn't or make it look more different still.

The real thing that the public ought to be complaining about is the lack of any requirement to make programmes that attract audiences. Big Brother government needs to be told that people won't accept programming that government thinks are good for them and will react in ways that upset ministers Otherwise, tonight probably showed what the BBC has in mind. Yet another reality hospital show and a trivial Panorama ( that was looking for an end of series slot) time- filling in mid-week prime time. That meets all the requirements but probably got hardly any viewers. CFA showed what the BBC could do in the same slot, but now there is no need to attract an audience......

Look at my new thread - the best possible new controller for BBC. He likes FA & I think he may have been behing Pop Idol.
The BBC proposed charter reads of Alistair Cambell's ambiguity & spin! It could be from the script of the Alistair McGowan show!

If WMD taught us anything about this government, it's that it doesn't examine things much below face value. Fame Academy looks like Pop Idol at first glance and Big Brother at second. It is neither, but don't expect Tessa and the other politicians to appreciate that.

the bbc will meet with Endemol this week to talk about some shows.
FA might be in that chat.

i have been told that they are meeting about 3 Reality shows , one will run for 9 weeks, one for 1 week and one 3 weeks. all are still only in the planning stage but it looks like we are in for a Reality tv boost from the bbc and this after they got slated for doing FA2