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Series 9 will be the final series
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be more pacific
08-09-2014
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“As are the wind-up merchants who start them.



A firework thread - light the blue touchpaper & retire to a safe distance

Or a fishing thread - cast the hook, watch them take the bait, and reel 'em in.



And it's not as if the thread-starter has not tried this before:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2005163”

And this disingenuous one:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2007174

Is the guy who used to start threads about "Cabaldi" still around? It seems his place has been taken by the OP.
Calpowell
08-09-2014
I read somewhere that their anniversary episode last year broke records by having 75 million views
dragon_mutant1
08-09-2014
I really hope it's the final series, Doctor Who is WAY past it's use-by date.
CD93
08-09-2014
Originally Posted by dragon_mutant1:
“I really hope it's the final series, Doctor Who is WAY past it's use-by date.”

Enjoy your stay in the Doctor Who forum.
darthbibble
08-09-2014
Can the people who start these sort of threads just be given an automatic ban?
Shawn_Lunn
08-09-2014
Yeah, we'll be getting a Series 10.
Firegazer
08-09-2014
The BBC will get more abuse for canceling the show, than keeping it on air. It's in their right minds to continue.
sarge99
08-09-2014
Originally Posted by David_H_93:
“So far every episode of this series the ratings are getting lower and all of the episodes are getting a mix reaction I feel if things don't change I can see the BBC Cancelling it I don't think they would want to waste their money on a show that's losing viewers and getting a mix reaction”

One word answer to this (polite version) : YAWN

Rather ruder version ...

Spoiler
Bollocks
TheSilentFez
08-09-2014
Originally Posted by dragon_mutant1:
“I really hope it's the final series, Doctor Who is WAY past it's use-by date.”

You're in for a disappointment, I'm afraid.
Abomination
08-09-2014
One of the biggest and arguably justifiable reasons people have for disliking the show of late is the writing.

Personally I've enjoyed Series 8 so far, already a whole lot more than Series 7. It hasn't been groundbreaking, but it's been enjoyable.

But I would like to draw attention to the fact that we have a lot of new writer material on the way though. Episodes 7, 8, 9 and 10 are all from new writers - that's four in a row, and totally unprecedented (Series 1 notwithstanding obviously). I get the feeling that a behind-the-scenes decision was made to introduce the series with a bunch of familiar writers (a lot of which is also co-Moffat) for the sake of consistency, and then a bunch of new writers will be taking this new Doctor in a brand new direction as the previous one is phased out. It's a bit of a clunky, forced way of going about it but doesn't it sound like the kind of executive thinking you'd expect to hear behind the scenes? Chuck in all the familiar stuff early on - the Paternosters, the Daleks, the same old writers, a historical-figure episode, then stick with tradition and use the back end of the series to experiment with new ideas, take the series in a darker direction, and focus on new elements such as the Promised Land, Danny Pink and a new Doctor whose shrugged off the remnants of the previous one.
thorr
08-09-2014
Originally Posted by darthbibble:
“Can the people who start these sort of threads just be given an automatic ban?”

The best reaction to a thread you don't like is to ignore - it will then go away, posting on a thread legitimises it.
mossy2103
08-09-2014
Originally Posted by dragon_mutant1:
“I really hope it's the final series, Doctor Who is WAY past it's use-by date.”

Simple solution there then - YOU stop watching & bothering your head about it, thus giving those millions who DO want to watch the opportunity to do so.

A win-win situation.
Abomination
08-09-2014
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“Simple solution there then - YOU stop watching & bothering your head about it, thus giving those millions who DO want to watch the opportunity to do so.

A win-win situation.”

Just remember, as long as there is someone willing to actually go to the effort of whinging and complaining (or trolling) about the show, it's still leaving enough of an impression to warrant its continuation. In other words, it's not going anywhere
Theophile
09-09-2014
Originally Posted by Abomination:
“Just remember, as long as there is someone willing to actually go to the effort of whinging and complaining (or trolling) about the show, it's still leaving enough of an impression to warrant its continuation. In other words, it's not going anywhere ”

This is very, very true. The opposite of love is not hate. They both require a deep emotional investment. For example, I love Doctor Who, therefore, I hate Moffat for what I believe he is doing to Doctor Who. However, my love and my hate both mean that I care very deeply.

The opposite of love isn't hate; the opposite of love is apathy.
Joe_Zel
09-09-2014
Originally Posted by David_H_93:
“all of the episodes are getting a mix reaction”



NO WAY!!!!

You mean nothing is universally liked or hated? It's a mixture???!!!
Thamwet
09-09-2014
David, you're the same person who made the thread stating that series 8 was perhaps the final one? Now you've been proven wrong, it's series 9?

David, just enjoy the show man! Worry about it finishing if and when they announce it to be finishing lol, be that in years to come or otherwise.
Face Of Jack
09-09-2014
I'm sure the BBC will allow it to continue into its 10th series!! No matter who is the star of the show! It creates more money than EastEnders or Sherlock anyday!!
The Doctor and his Companions will create much publicity at opening-events etc too!
(Christmas??) Who knows!
Peter Capaldi is doing fine at the moment - he could go longer yet!!
I love his style of being the obnoxious, care free guy that he is !!
tiggerpooh
10-09-2014
In my opinion, I think the BBC should have rested the show for a year, not having any new "Who" at all, until sometime in the Autumn of 2015.

The cast and production team, have rushed filming, so that a late Summer start could happen. It's only literally taken them seven months to complete, and on viewing of the episodes, it shows. It took Matt Smith and co, nearly ten months to complete filming of a series when he was the Doctor.

So far, with what has been shown, the writing hasn't been as good as it was.

I don't think DW has got the drive and pizazz that it once had, and that's sad. It's supposed to be a show of greatness and fulfilment, and I don't think that it has ticked those boxes this time.

If the production team don't sort things out soon, and pull their socks up, then they could find themselves in trouble. I don't mean that the show would go, but a complete change in show runner and production team may occur.

DW has been losing viewers recently, and when I last looked on Monday online, there had been only just over 4 million watching Robots of Sherwood on BBC1.

I can remember when DW used to get 8, maybe 9 million viewers watching it, nearly every Saturday. That was when David Tennant was the Doctor, over five years ago now. IMO, he was the best Doctor since Tom Baker was last in the show nearly 34 years ago.
sebbie3000
10-09-2014
Originally Posted by tiggerpooh:
“In my opinion, I think the BBC should have rested the show for a year, not having any new "Who" at all, until sometime in the Autumn of 2015.

The cast and production team, have rushed filming, so that a late Summer start could happen. It's only literally taken them seven months to complete, and on viewing of the episodes, it shows. It took Matt Smith and co, nearly ten months to complete filming of a series when he was the Doctor.

So far, with what has been shown, the writing hasn't been as good as it was.

I don't think DW has got the drive and pizazz that it once had, and that's sad. It's supposed to be a show of greatness and fulfilment, and I don't think that it has ticked those boxes this time.

If the production team don't sort things out soon, and pull their socks up, then they could find themselves in trouble. I don't mean that the show would go, but a complete change in show runner and production team may occur.

DW has been losing viewers recently, and when I last looked on Monday online, there had been only just over 4 million watching Robots of Sherwood on BBC1.

I can remember when DW used to get 8, maybe 9 million viewers watching it, nearly every Saturday. That was when David Tennant was the Doctor, over five years ago now. IMO, he was the best Doctor since Tom Baker was last in the show nearly 34 years ago.”

Please read the thread dedicated to the viewing figures if you want the actual figures - not randomly plucked out of thin air nonsense.

Also, I feel there is still the pizazz anddrive there. You don't This doom-mongering on your part is simply because you are not liking it. They seem rushed? The cinematography is beautiful. The characterisation is coming through well, and the writing is of the same usual high standard.

Don't pretend that your views are what is happening, when there are counter-views like mine.

But that was just my opinion.

I will say, however, that you really need to read the dedicated ratings thread, as you absolutely have the wrong end of the stick there. What you said was just plain wrong!
be more pacific
10-09-2014
Originally Posted by tiggerpooh:
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DW has been losing viewers recently, and when I last looked on Monday online, there had been only just over 4 million watching Robots of Sherwood on BBC1.

I can remember when DW used to get 8, maybe 9 million viewers watching it, nearly every Saturday. That was when David Tennant was the Doctor, over five years ago now. IMO, he was the best Doctor since Tom Baker was last in the show nearly 34 years ago.”

Blatantly untrue. If you can find figures which show a 50% drop in ratings since the Tennant era, please present them. All actual data so far shows the performance of Series 8 is very similar to that of every other series since 2005.
Irma Bunt
10-09-2014
Originally Posted by tiggerpooh:
“ DW has been losing viewers recently, and when I last looked on Monday online, there had been only just over 4 million watching Robots of Sherwood on BBC1.”

I don't know where you were looking but that's absolute tommyrot. The overnights were 5.2 million with a 25% share. To put it in perspective, that means that 1 in every 4 people watching TV at that time on Saturday were tuned into Doctor Who. Given that we know catch-up viewing adds 2 million to Who's figures, that puts it comfortably in the 7 million plus zone. Trust me, as someone who works in TV I know that BBC execs will be more than happy with those figures.

And if you're still not convinced, let me add just one more thing: Doctor Who was BBC1's most watched programme on Saturday. If you're really suggesting it is struggling and in danger, goodness knows what that says about the rest of the schedule...
Mr_Eye
10-09-2014
I remember one of the Tennant era episodes getting 4.8m in the overnights. Many of you have literally no idea what you are talking about.
adams66
10-09-2014
Originally Posted by Mr_Eye:
“I remember one of the Tennant era episodes getting 4.8m in the overnights. Many of you have literally no idea what you are talking about.”

You seem surprised. This is an internet forum.
be more pacific
10-09-2014
The persistent misrepresentation of viewing figures does raise the question of whether the people who come out with such rubbish even believe what they're posting? I get the impression it's more a case of malicious wishful thinking from a very vocal minority who no longer like the show.
MinkytheDog
10-09-2014
Originally Posted by be more pacific:
“The persistent misrepresentation of viewing figures does raise the question of whether the people who come out with such rubbish even believe what they're posting? I get the impression it's more a case of malicious wishful thinking from a very vocal minority who no longer like the show.”

For the most part, the "malice" is not "anti-Doctor Who" - it's "anti-fan".

Some people regard all sci-fi fans as "geeks" and regard it as their right to insult, abuse and bait them. Some people think that applies twice over to adults who enjoy "chilldrens'" sci-fi shows. Some people are just trolls and "fans" are often just easy targets cos they "care" what people say about "their" TV show/popstar/whatever..

Ultimately - if someone on DS says "Doctor Who is crap and no-one is watching and it will be cancelled" - so what? They can say it as often as they like - don't make it true and won't affect the show. It's not like anyone who actually matters is going to come here to post that sort of stuff - there ain't a Michael Grade amongst 'em.

Best thing to do - in the short term, ignore then and watch their threads shrivel up and die. In the longer term, do your best to help make the forums friendly so that we - the fans - aren't seen as whiny little dweebs who deserve to be trolled.
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