Three

moox · 14-09-2014, 14:10

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or you could get the free 'home signal' box from 3 ?

They aren't that easy to get out of 3 though, and with the intouch app its probably even harder. I guess you could claim that you don't have a smartphone (or a windows phone, same difference

)

It took me a small amount of effort to get one, including being a bit forceful ("I know you aren't improving coverage in my village, it was the same 3 years ago, please send me a box or I may have to cancel again").

Ben_Fisher · 14-09-2014, 15:31

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Originally Posted by moox

They aren't that easy to get out of 3 though, and with the intouch app its probably even harder. I guess you could claim that you don't have a smartphone (or a windows phone, same difference

)

It took me a small amount of effort to get one, including being a bit forceful ("I know you aren't improving coverage in my village, it was the same 3 years ago, please send me a box or I may have to cancel again").

I got mine without even knowing what they are. The improved coverage a few months later DRAMATICALLY. I asked should I send it back, the guy said naa keep it incase there are ever issues.

jonmorris · 14-09-2014, 23:08

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Originally Posted by The Sack

I have lowered my monthly gas and electricity DD from £143 to £113 by simply turning stuff off when it isn't in use.

Plus when the price does go up they dont say oh you are only allowed this much do they

I am not sure what the problem is. If you'd stayed on the £12.90 contract, you'd still be on it now. The new tariffs are more expensive, but include more things (you can argue whether those benefits are of any use or interest to you, but that's another argument).

However, the fact is still that they're all new tariffs. There was no price rise, there was a complete change to the way they did things, with a whole load of new tariffs with varying levels of calls, texts, data and tethering (with a maximum cap of 4GB and £5 per 1GB to add more).

As for your energy bills. Why not use less electricity and gas AND change tariff to a cheaper deal? I actually took the time to research tariffs (after all the fuss in the media) and got a fixed price until mid 2015 that means I'm guaranteed to save money if I use the exact same amount.. but I've adjusted our heating, reduced the time the hot water is heated, and got LED lighting almost exclusively throughout the house. My bill should fall quite a bit now.

And I'm still on the £15 One Plan with AYCE data and tethering, so saving a fortune there too!!!

The Sack · 04-03-2015, 09:02

I'm am sure the zealots will love me bringing this back up but i have just noticed the Tariff i was paying £12.90 for 7 months ago now costs £20. Its hard to recommend Three to anyone when they are ramping up the prices like this.

Chris1973 · 04-03-2015, 09:09

Interesting though, that mention of letters arriving giving notice of the termination of the one plan, and migration of existing (out of contract) One Plan customers to their other tariffs seems to have quietened off, and there has been no mention of them, since late Nov / Early December on this, or any other of the many forums I read.

Yes, i've no doubt that they will eventually, but it just seems to be going very slowly, given that the first batch sparked a long thread and almost daily discussion, both here and elsewhere, yet not one single person has mentioned a letter arriving recently.

slattery69 · 04-03-2015, 09:13

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Originally Posted by The Sack

I'm am sure the zealots will love me bringing this back up but i have just noticed the Tariff i was paying £12.90 for 7 months ago now costs £20. Its hard to recommend Three to anyone when they are ramping up the prices like this.

whist i agree its a big jump in price, its still cheap at that price. i left three recently as i knew id lose my one plan sim only and they claimed 4g was in my area but was really only one mast 2 miles from where i lived. But i got great 3g coverage.

So ive spent a bit of time looking at alternatives and to be fair im paying more for less with EE (in terms of data). the tariff you mention is still better value for some if you consume a lot of data. Youll struggle to find much better as long as the areas you live , work and play in have decent coverage.

moox · 04-03-2015, 10:35

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Originally Posted by Chris1973

Interesting though, that mention of letters arriving giving notice of the termination of the one plan, and migration of existing (out of contract) One Plan customers to their other tariffs seems to have quietened off, and there has been no mention of them, since late Nov / Early December on this, or any other of the many forums I read.

Yes, i've no doubt that they will eventually, but it just seems to be going very slowly, given that the first batch sparked a long thread and almost daily discussion, both here and elsewhere, yet not one single person has mentioned a letter arriving recently.

The two one plan accounts I am aware of haven't received anything. It appears to be almost glacial - perhaps they've got rid of enough heavy users? Are they backtracking because some people have threatened to leave entirely?

jonmorris · 04-03-2015, 12:36

From the network testing I did yesterday in London (I'll post the video later) Three does appear to be struggling now.

jabbamk1 · 04-03-2015, 12:47

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Originally Posted by The Sack

I'm am sure the zealots will love me bringing this back up but i have just noticed the Tariff i was paying £12.90 for 7 months ago now costs £20. Its hard to recommend Three to anyone when they are ramping up the prices like this.

1 month contracts should be cheaper. They are so expensive at the moment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris1973

Interesting though, that mention of letters arriving giving notice of the termination of the one plan, and migration of existing (out of contract) One Plan customers to their other tariffs seems to have quietened off, and there has been no mention of them, since late Nov / Early December on this, or any other of the many forums I read.

Yes, i've no doubt that they will eventually, but it just seems to be going very slowly, given that the first batch sparked a long thread and almost daily discussion, both here and elsewhere, yet not one single person has mentioned a letter arriving recently.

Huge technical issue meant they had to deal with the first few batches for a longer period before moving on to others.

The Sack · 04-03-2015, 13:56

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Originally Posted by jabbamk1

1 month contracts should be cheaper. They are so expensive at the moment..

Thing is may mate asked who i was with and for what cost. I joked about making a balls up with leaving when i was paying £12.90 but i though the £15 a month i am paying now was reasonably good value (1 months SIM only deal, 200 minutes, unlimited texts and data).

When he's looked the same tariff is now 20 quid and he has said bollocks to that if you are paying £15, anyone would think Three don't want new customers.

jonmorris · 04-03-2015, 14:11

Three sought to acquire customers by offering discounts of up to £10 a month, later reduced to £5 a month, on some tariffs.

There's nothing to say Three couldn't do that, but discounts/sales don't always last forever or get repeated ad infinitum.

At some point, Three decided it's now ready to try and make some money - which it will need to roll out 4G and upgrade capacity, bid for new spectrum etc.

Maybe Three will offer more discounts/offers in the future. For example the unique tariff for the new Honor phone.

mupet0000 · 04-03-2015, 14:21

Where else can you get unlimited 4G, for any price? No where. At £12.90 for AYCE was a steal, and at £20 it's still good. EE will charge you £19 for a 1 month rolling 1GB sim-only plan, and for 5GB they charge £31.

It's obvious that Three wouldn't keep an AYCE deal at £12.90 forever.

moox · 04-03-2015, 14:29

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Originally Posted by mupet0000

Where else can you get unlimited 4G, for any price? No where. At £12.90 for AYCE was a steal, and at £20 it's still good. EE will charge you £19 for a 1 month rolling 1GB sim-only plan, and for 5GB they charge £31.

It's obvious that Three wouldn't keep an AYCE deal at £12.90 forever.

"free 4G" is meaningless when it has tiny coverage and shoddy performance where it does exist.

EE charges you for 4G but when you use it, you know why

The Sack · 04-03-2015, 15:15

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Originally Posted by moox

"free 4G" is meaningless when it has tiny coverage and shoddy performance where it does exist.

This!

d123 · 04-03-2015, 15:23

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Originally Posted by jonmorris

For example the unique tariff for the new Honor phone.

Which seems like quite a stupid launch idea.

Unless Three are getting a brand new version of the current Honor 6+ Huawei sell why would they think a handset that doesn't support 800Mhz is a good idea on a network rolling out 800Mhz?

A person might suspect someone at Hutchison Whampoa HQ isn't au fait with the current UK 4G market...

The Sack · 04-03-2015, 15:25

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Originally Posted by mupet0000

Where else can you get unlimited 4G, for any price? No where. At £12.90 for AYCE was a steal, and at £20 it's still good. EE will charge you £19 for a 1 month rolling 1GB sim-only plan, and for 5GB they charge £31.

It's obvious that Three wouldn't keep an AYCE deal at £12.90 forever.

I'm not bothered about unlimited 4g, I'd be happy with 4GB of 3G. On three in the main 4g speeds = 3g speeds anyway. However there is a gaping hole in the plans they offer when it comes to 4GB, the catch is they come with 600 or AYCE minutes and so the price can be kept higher.

100 minutes, 4GB of data, couldn't give a toss what g it is so long as it a couple of Mbit or over so it is usable and 2000 texts would be lovely. It seems to me it is Three that thinks the entire world wants unlimited everything and millions of calls.

mupet0000 · 04-03-2015, 15:50

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Originally Posted by moox

"free 4G" is meaningless when it has tiny coverage and shoddy performance where it does exist.

EE charges you for 4G but when you use it, you know why

I used 50GB last month and wouldn't have been able to on 3G. My area is mostly covered by 4G, it's not perfect but the 4G is much faster than the 3G in general, and the 4G is always more responsive. I don't see how it's meaningless at all, personally I'd rather pay £20 for as much slower data as I want rather than a blazing fast gigabyte. It's not EE fast but it's perfectly good for streaming Netflix etc.

If you have poor service from Three in your area and you don't like the tariffs, then don't use Three. Same goes for anyone on any network, you are gonna get a different service depending on where you live.

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Originally Posted by The Sack

I'm not bothered about unlimited 4g, I'd be happy with 4GB of 3G. On three in the main 4g speeds = 3g speeds anyway. However there is a gaping hole in the plans they offer when it comes to 4GB, the catch is they come with 600 or AYCE minutes and so the price can be kept higher.

100 minutes, 4GB of data, couldn't give a toss what g it is so long as it a couple of Mbit or over so it is usable and 2000 texts would be lovely. It seems to me it is Three that thinks the entire world wants unlimited everything and millions of calls.

I don't know any network that would give you 100 minutes and 4GB of data, for example, most of EEs plans give out unlimited texts and minutes and that's the way it's going to go as data becomes the only thing that's actually worth paying for.

The Sack · 04-03-2015, 16:05

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Originally Posted by mupet0000

I don't know any network that would give you 100 minutes and 4GB of data, for example, most of EEs plans give out unlimited texts and minutes and that's the way it's going to go as data becomes the only thing that's actually worth paying for.

You have missed my point which was most of us do not need anything like the amounts what we are paying for.

mupet0000 · 04-03-2015, 16:21

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Originally Posted by The Sack

You have missed my point which was most of us do not need anything like the amounts what we are paying for.

I don't think we are paying for the minutes at all. Look at EE/O2/Voda sim-only plans, once you get to plans with 1GB or more data, unlimited minutes and texts are thrown in.

Think about how much it costs networks to carry data compared to a simple text or voice call. They may as well offer unlimited calls because it looks good and is very cost effective for them.

I think the prices would be the same if they gave you 100 minutes or unlimited minutes as what you are really paying for is the data usage.

jonmorris · 04-03-2015, 16:50

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Originally Posted by d123

Which seems like quite a stupid launch idea.

Unless Three are getting a brand new version of the current Honor 6+ Huawei sell why would they think a handset that doesn't support 800Mhz is a good idea on a network rolling out 800Mhz?

A person might suspect someone at Hutchison Whampoa HQ isn't au fait with the current UK 4G market...

It might be a different version though. Yesterday there seemed to be some confusion, as the release said it was Cat 6 LTE, but it was then stated that it will only be Cat 4. We also saw dual SIM versions of the original Honor 6, so could it be possible that Three is getting a variant that supports all the necessary bands?

The Sack · 04-03-2015, 17:12

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Originally Posted by mupet0000

I don't think we are paying for the minutes at all. Look at EE/O2/Voda sim-only plans, once you get to plans with 1GB or more data, unlimited minutes and texts are thrown in.

Think about how much it costs networks to carry data compared to a simple text or voice call. They may as well offer unlimited calls because it looks good and is very cost effective for them.

I think the prices would be the same if they gave you 100 minutes or unlimited minutes as what you are really paying for is the data usage.

Once again you have missed my point. The percentage of the users actually need unlimited data, unlimited minutes and unlimited texts must be tiny.

The 100 minutes you are so fond off was only me in giving an example, to be honest 50 minutes would do me, it was to prove a point it was not to set an arbitrary figure.

To many i suspect 2GB of data and 2000 texts may as well be unlimited.

Call something unlimited and boom, instant price premium.

japaul · 04-03-2015, 17:32

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Originally Posted by d123

Which seems like quite a stupid launch idea.

Unless Three are getting a brand new version of the current Honor 6+ Huawei sell why would they think a handset that doesn't support 800Mhz is a good idea on a network rolling out 800Mhz?

A person might suspect someone at Hutchison Whampoa HQ isn't au fait with the current UK 4G market...

I wouldn't take specs sheets as gospel though. There'll be different versions and I'll be amazed if the UK 6+ doesn't support 800 especially if it's sold by Three. The early specs shown for the 6 were for different versions without 800 but the one sold in the UK does have support (indeed the tests I posted here a few weeks ago showing 800 on Three were from an Honor 6).

jonmorris · 04-03-2015, 19:49

Here is my promised speed test from London (and Hatfield!) showing Three and even EE is beginning to suffer a bit in some places.

http://jmcomms.com/2015/03/04/4g-lte...d-london-2015/

sdduk · 05-03-2015, 12:37

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Originally Posted by The Sack

I have lowered my monthly gas and electricity DD from £143 to £113 by simply turning stuff off when it isn't in use.

Plus when the price does go up they dont say oh you are only allowed this much do they

No because you are not getting any free gas or electric when they put there price up and they want you to burn more so they make more profit

Three are still one of the best priced network providers
No we don't like increase but that life we have to deal with it or go somewhere else and in the end pay more for being stubborn.

sdduk · 05-03-2015, 12:46

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Originally Posted by jonmorris

From the network testing I did yesterday in London (I'll post the video later) Three does appear to be struggling now.

That's why they are in talks with O2 to take them over
Were i live i still get excellent single and have so for the last 4yrs nothings change apart from i now get 4G.

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14-09-2014, 15:31	#27
Ben_Fisher Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Lincoln Posts: 577	Quote: Originally Posted by moox They aren't that easy to get out of 3 though, and with the intouch app its probably even harder. I guess you could claim that you don't have a smartphone (or a windows phone, same difference ) It took me a small amount of effort to get one, including being a bit forceful ("I know you aren't improving coverage in my village, it was the same 3 years ago, please send me a box or I may have to cancel again"). I got mine without even knowing what they are. The improved coverage a few months later DRAMATICALLY. I asked should I send it back, the guy said naa keep it incase there are ever issues.

14-09-2014, 23:08	#28
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by The Sack I have lowered my monthly gas and electricity DD from £143 to £113 by simply turning stuff off when it isn't in use. Plus when the price does go up they dont say oh you are only allowed this much do they I am not sure what the problem is. If you'd stayed on the £12.90 contract, you'd still be on it now. The new tariffs are more expensive, but include more things (you can argue whether those benefits are of any use or interest to you, but that's another argument). However, the fact is still that they're all new tariffs. There was no price rise, there was a complete change to the way they did things, with a whole load of new tariffs with varying levels of calls, texts, data and tethering (with a maximum cap of 4GB and £5 per 1GB to add more). As for your energy bills. Why not use less electricity and gas AND change tariff to a cheaper deal? I actually took the time to research tariffs (after all the fuss in the media) and got a fixed price until mid 2015 that means I'm guaranteed to save money if I use the exact same amount.. but I've adjusted our heating, reduced the time the hot water is heated, and got LED lighting almost exclusively throughout the house. My bill should fall quite a bit now. And I'm still on the £15 One Plan with AYCE data and tethering, so saving a fortune there too!!!

04-03-2015, 09:02	#29
The Sack Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: S6 1SW WTID UTO FTB Posts: 6,327	I'm am sure the zealots will love me bringing this back up but i have just noticed the Tariff i was paying £12.90 for 7 months ago now costs £20. Its hard to recommend Three to anyone when they are ramping up the prices like this.

04-03-2015, 09:09	#30
Chris1973 Forum Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 667	Interesting though, that mention of letters arriving giving notice of the termination of the one plan, and migration of existing (out of contract) One Plan customers to their other tariffs seems to have quietened off, and there has been no mention of them, since late Nov / Early December on this, or any other of the many forums I read. Yes, i've no doubt that they will eventually, but it just seems to be going very slowly, given that the first batch sparked a long thread and almost daily discussion, both here and elsewhere, yet not one single person has mentioned a letter arriving recently.

04-03-2015, 09:13	#31
slattery69 Forum Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 204	Quote: Originally Posted by The Sack I'm am sure the zealots will love me bringing this back up but i have just noticed the Tariff i was paying £12.90 for 7 months ago now costs £20. Its hard to recommend Three to anyone when they are ramping up the prices like this. whist i agree its a big jump in price, its still cheap at that price. i left three recently as i knew id lose my one plan sim only and they claimed 4g was in my area but was really only one mast 2 miles from where i lived. But i got great 3g coverage. So ive spent a bit of time looking at alternatives and to be fair im paying more for less with EE (in terms of data). the tariff you mention is still better value for some if you consume a lot of data. Youll struggle to find much better as long as the areas you live , work and play in have decent coverage.

04-03-2015, 10:35	#32
moox Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14,645	Quote: Originally Posted by Chris1973 Interesting though, that mention of letters arriving giving notice of the termination of the one plan, and migration of existing (out of contract) One Plan customers to their other tariffs seems to have quietened off, and there has been no mention of them, since late Nov / Early December on this, or any other of the many forums I read. Yes, i've no doubt that they will eventually, but it just seems to be going very slowly, given that the first batch sparked a long thread and almost daily discussion, both here and elsewhere, yet not one single person has mentioned a letter arriving recently. The two one plan accounts I am aware of haven't received anything. It appears to be almost glacial - perhaps they've got rid of enough heavy users? Are they backtracking because some people have threatened to leave entirely?

04-03-2015, 12:36	#33
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	From the network testing I did yesterday in London (I'll post the video later) Three does appear to be struggling now.

04-03-2015, 12:47	#34
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	Quote: Originally Posted by The Sack I'm am sure the zealots will love me bringing this back up but i have just noticed the Tariff i was paying £12.90 for 7 months ago now costs £20. Its hard to recommend Three to anyone when they are ramping up the prices like this. 1 month contracts should be cheaper. They are so expensive at the moment. Quote: Originally Posted by Chris1973 Interesting though, that mention of letters arriving giving notice of the termination of the one plan, and migration of existing (out of contract) One Plan customers to their other tariffs seems to have quietened off, and there has been no mention of them, since late Nov / Early December on this, or any other of the many forums I read. Yes, i've no doubt that they will eventually, but it just seems to be going very slowly, given that the first batch sparked a long thread and almost daily discussion, both here and elsewhere, yet not one single person has mentioned a letter arriving recently. Huge technical issue meant they had to deal with the first few batches for a longer period before moving on to others.

04-03-2015, 13:56	#35
The Sack Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: S6 1SW WTID UTO FTB Posts: 6,327	Quote: Originally Posted by jabbamk1 1 month contracts should be cheaper. They are so expensive at the moment.. Thing is may mate asked who i was with and for what cost. I joked about making a balls up with leaving when i was paying £12.90 but i though the £15 a month i am paying now was reasonably good value (1 months SIM only deal, 200 minutes, unlimited texts and data). When he's looked the same tariff is now 20 quid and he has said bollocks to that if you are paying £15, anyone would think Three don't want new customers.

04-03-2015, 14:11	#36
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Three sought to acquire customers by offering discounts of up to £10 a month, later reduced to £5 a month, on some tariffs. There's nothing to say Three couldn't do that, but discounts/sales don't always last forever or get repeated ad infinitum. At some point, Three decided it's now ready to try and make some money - which it will need to roll out 4G and upgrade capacity, bid for new spectrum etc. Maybe Three will offer more discounts/offers in the future. For example the unique tariff for the new Honor phone.

04-03-2015, 14:21	#37
mupet0000 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 620	Where else can you get unlimited 4G, for any price? No where. At £12.90 for AYCE was a steal, and at £20 it's still good. EE will charge you £19 for a 1 month rolling 1GB sim-only plan, and for 5GB they charge £31. It's obvious that Three wouldn't keep an AYCE deal at £12.90 forever.

04-03-2015, 14:29	#38
moox Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14,645	Quote: Originally Posted by mupet0000 Where else can you get unlimited 4G, for any price? No where. At £12.90 for AYCE was a steal, and at £20 it's still good. EE will charge you £19 for a 1 month rolling 1GB sim-only plan, and for 5GB they charge £31. It's obvious that Three wouldn't keep an AYCE deal at £12.90 forever. "free 4G" is meaningless when it has tiny coverage and shoddy performance where it does exist. EE charges you for 4G but when you use it, you know why

04-03-2015, 15:15	#39
The Sack Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: S6 1SW WTID UTO FTB Posts: 6,327	Quote: Originally Posted by moox "free 4G" is meaningless when it has tiny coverage and shoddy performance where it does exist. This!

04-03-2015, 15:23	#40
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris For example the unique tariff for the new Honor phone. Which seems like quite a stupid launch idea. Unless Three are getting a brand new version of the current Honor 6+ Huawei sell why would they think a handset that doesn't support 800Mhz is a good idea on a network rolling out 800Mhz? A person might suspect someone at Hutchison Whampoa HQ isn't au fait with the current UK 4G market...

04-03-2015, 15:25	#41
The Sack Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: S6 1SW WTID UTO FTB Posts: 6,327	Quote: Originally Posted by mupet0000 Where else can you get unlimited 4G, for any price? No where. At £12.90 for AYCE was a steal, and at £20 it's still good. EE will charge you £19 for a 1 month rolling 1GB sim-only plan, and for 5GB they charge £31. It's obvious that Three wouldn't keep an AYCE deal at £12.90 forever. I'm not bothered about unlimited 4g, I'd be happy with 4GB of 3G. On three in the main 4g speeds = 3g speeds anyway. However there is a gaping hole in the plans they offer when it comes to 4GB, the catch is they come with 600 or AYCE minutes and so the price can be kept higher. 100 minutes, 4GB of data, couldn't give a toss what g it is so long as it a couple of Mbit or over so it is usable and 2000 texts would be lovely. It seems to me it is Three that thinks the entire world wants unlimited everything and millions of calls.

04-03-2015, 15:50	#42
mupet0000 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 620	Quote: Originally Posted by moox "free 4G" is meaningless when it has tiny coverage and shoddy performance where it does exist. EE charges you for 4G but when you use it, you know why I used 50GB last month and wouldn't have been able to on 3G. My area is mostly covered by 4G, it's not perfect but the 4G is much faster than the 3G in general, and the 4G is always more responsive. I don't see how it's meaningless at all, personally I'd rather pay £20 for as much slower data as I want rather than a blazing fast gigabyte. It's not EE fast but it's perfectly good for streaming Netflix etc. If you have poor service from Three in your area and you don't like the tariffs, then don't use Three. Same goes for anyone on any network, you are gonna get a different service depending on where you live. Quote: Originally Posted by The Sack I'm not bothered about unlimited 4g, I'd be happy with 4GB of 3G. On three in the main 4g speeds = 3g speeds anyway. However there is a gaping hole in the plans they offer when it comes to 4GB, the catch is they come with 600 or AYCE minutes and so the price can be kept higher. 100 minutes, 4GB of data, couldn't give a toss what g it is so long as it a couple of Mbit or over so it is usable and 2000 texts would be lovely. It seems to me it is Three that thinks the entire world wants unlimited everything and millions of calls. I don't know any network that would give you 100 minutes and 4GB of data, for example, most of EEs plans give out unlimited texts and minutes and that's the way it's going to go as data becomes the only thing that's actually worth paying for.

04-03-2015, 16:05	#43
The Sack Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: S6 1SW WTID UTO FTB Posts: 6,327	Quote: Originally Posted by mupet0000 I don't know any network that would give you 100 minutes and 4GB of data, for example, most of EEs plans give out unlimited texts and minutes and that's the way it's going to go as data becomes the only thing that's actually worth paying for. You have missed my point which was most of us do not need anything like the amounts what we are paying for.

04-03-2015, 16:21	#44
mupet0000 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 620	Quote: Originally Posted by The Sack You have missed my point which was most of us do not need anything like the amounts what we are paying for. I don't think we are paying for the minutes at all. Look at EE/O2/Voda sim-only plans, once you get to plans with 1GB or more data, unlimited minutes and texts are thrown in. Think about how much it costs networks to carry data compared to a simple text or voice call. They may as well offer unlimited calls because it looks good and is very cost effective for them. I think the prices would be the same if they gave you 100 minutes or unlimited minutes as what you are really paying for is the data usage.

04-03-2015, 16:50	#45
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by d123 Which seems like quite a stupid launch idea. Unless Three are getting a brand new version of the current Honor 6+ Huawei sell why would they think a handset that doesn't support 800Mhz is a good idea on a network rolling out 800Mhz? A person might suspect someone at Hutchison Whampoa HQ isn't au fait with the current UK 4G market... It might be a different version though. Yesterday there seemed to be some confusion, as the release said it was Cat 6 LTE, but it was then stated that it will only be Cat 4. We also saw dual SIM versions of the original Honor 6, so could it be possible that Three is getting a variant that supports all the necessary bands?

04-03-2015, 17:12	#46
The Sack Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: S6 1SW WTID UTO FTB Posts: 6,327	Quote: Originally Posted by mupet0000 I don't think we are paying for the minutes at all. Look at EE/O2/Voda sim-only plans, once you get to plans with 1GB or more data, unlimited minutes and texts are thrown in. Think about how much it costs networks to carry data compared to a simple text or voice call. They may as well offer unlimited calls because it looks good and is very cost effective for them. I think the prices would be the same if they gave you 100 minutes or unlimited minutes as what you are really paying for is the data usage. Once again you have missed my point. The percentage of the users actually need unlimited data, unlimited minutes and unlimited texts must be tiny. The 100 minutes you are so fond off was only me in giving an example, to be honest 50 minutes would do me, it was to prove a point it was not to set an arbitrary figure. To many i suspect 2GB of data and 2000 texts may as well be unlimited. Call something unlimited and boom, instant price premium.

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04-03-2015, 17:32	#47
japaul Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,662	Quote: Originally Posted by d123 Which seems like quite a stupid launch idea. Unless Three are getting a brand new version of the current Honor 6+ Huawei sell why would they think a handset that doesn't support 800Mhz is a good idea on a network rolling out 800Mhz? A person might suspect someone at Hutchison Whampoa HQ isn't au fait with the current UK 4G market... I wouldn't take specs sheets as gospel though. There'll be different versions and I'll be amazed if the UK 6+ doesn't support 800 especially if it's sold by Three. The early specs shown for the 6 were for different versions without 800 but the one sold in the UK does have support (indeed the tests I posted here a few weeks ago showing 800 on Three were from an Honor 6).

04-03-2015, 19:49	#48
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Here is my promised speed test from London (and Hatfield!) showing Three and even EE is beginning to suffer a bit in some places. http://jmcomms.com/2015/03/04/4g-lte...d-london-2015/

05-03-2015, 12:37	#49
sdduk Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 216	Quote: Originally Posted by The Sack I have lowered my monthly gas and electricity DD from £143 to £113 by simply turning stuff off when it isn't in use. Plus when the price does go up they dont say oh you are only allowed this much do they No because you are not getting any free gas or electric when they put there price up and they want you to burn more so they make more profit Three are still one of the best priced network providers No we don't like increase but that life we have to deal with it or go somewhere else and in the end pay more for being stubborn.

05-03-2015, 12:46	#50
sdduk Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 216	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris From the network testing I did yesterday in London (I'll post the video later) Three does appear to be struggling now. That's why they are in talks with O2 to take them over Were i live i still get excellent single and have so for the last 4yrs nothings change apart from i now get 4G.