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Lauren - The Way Grown Men Acted Towards An Elderly Man
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Alrightmate
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by curvybabes:
“She had an hour with her agent who would have told her what to say on bots.”

But it's consistent with how she was in the house. She got herself into trouble with some of the others by being friendly with Gary.
For the most part she has been one of the kinder more considerate housemates compared to many of them.
Cat-
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by curvybabes:
“She had an hour with her agent who would have told her what to say on bots.”

It's a shame that Ricci's agent didn't catch up with him in the same time frame.

No, Lauren may well have made a bit of a fool of herself, but she was easily more herself than Ricci ever was.
Alrightmate
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by Alib941:
“Yet every week bar the last one Lauren nominated Gary.and only nominated James once. I think she sounds very bitter cos James had her sussed”

Depending on the housemate in question that would be classed as either playing a game or being on a journey.

Personally I think she got to know Gary more and what may have been annoying to her earlier on, she simply got used to because she was seeing the person instead and any annoyance she may have had before just evaporated.
She expressed how she was sick of people following the crowd and I think she just felt like she couldn't be arsed being expected to conform to a group mentality.
I think that once she freed herself from that it was a burden lifted from her and she could relax more, and therefore became more tolerant as a consequence.
eva_prior
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by curvybabes:
“She had an hour with her agent who would have told her what to say on bots.”

Except she'd already explained to Ricci a few days ago that she didn't think it was right the way James et al were behaving towards Gary.

That was what caused them to expel her from the in- crowd. Their common enemy ( which is the glue that binds them together) is Gary.

Once Lauren no longer perceived Gary as such and stated likewise, then there was no glue binding her to James' gang anymore.
curvybabes
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“But it's consistent with how she was in the house. She got herself into trouble with some of the others by being friendly with Gary.
For the most part she has been one of the kinder more considerate housemates compared to many of them.”

I saw it as she cottoned onto the fact that Gary was popular with the public so she thought she,d stick in with him. She wasn't considerate at the start when she was drunk, shouting in the bedroom and falling into his bed in the middle of the night.
Kay2000
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by BlueStreak:
“Yup and me too.

Seems odd Audley, Frenchy and now Lauren are speaking up for Gary.

How odd is that.

”

Claire King did too.
Alrightmate
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by curvybabes:
“I saw it as she cottoned onto the fact that Gary was popular with the public so she thought she,d stick in with him. She wasn't considerate at the start when she was drunk, shouting in the bedroom and falling into his bed in the middle of the night.”

Let's say that was her motivation. That her actions were influenced by what she felt the public thought.
If that's the case then so what?
If she was kinder to him, forgot that he was supposed to be somebody to be excluded, and actually had some fun with him and they made each other feel better,...then where's the harm in that? What I'm saying is that even if that was a gameplan of hers it would actually be quite a nice gameplan wouldn't it? Which involves being nice to people as opposed to making them feel awful?

However, thinking even further back, that time when Dee and Lauren were apparently bitching about Gary when he was sat right next to them, didn't Lauren offer to make Gary a sandwich? That was while ago wasn't it?
That was a really nice thing to do regardless wasn't it? Gameplan or no gameplan.
Now in hindsight I'm wondering if it was more the case that Dee was bitching to Lauren. But that at the time nobody really considered that Lauren may have actually been changing back then, as we had little to go on so just assumed that she was on the same hymn sheet as Dee and James.

I think it's fair to say that sometimes the more you get to know someone the more you start to see the real person and the superficial surface image just becomes invisible after a while.
Beetlejuice
11-09-2014
Talk about Lauren sucking up to Garry? It's the rest sucking up to James. Edele in particular. That 'towel fight' to get both some camera time was just sooo put on as if to say 'look at me having fun with James. Yea it was hilarious
NOT! yawn.
Cat-
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Depending on the housemate in question that would be classed as either playing a game or being on a journey.

Personally I think she got to know Gary more and what may have been annoying to her earlier on, she simply got used to because she was seeing the person instead and any annoyance she may have had before just evaporated.
She expressed how she was sick of people following the crowd and I think she just felt like she couldn't be arsed being expected to conform to a group mentality.
I think that once she freed herself from that it was a burden lifted from her and she could relax more, and therefore became more tolerant as a consequence.”

Yep, that's how I seen it too.

You just had to see how much she and Ricci were in disagreement when Emma interviewed them. Ricci, all secure with his mama Dee and papa James feeling good.

And then Lauren feeling she was excluded from that club because she dared not to fancy Dee's babyboi.

It's laughable.
scout2006
11-09-2014
Lauren is an idiotic bimbo who couldn't give a hoot about Gary Busey but is very worried about her own public profile, although god knows why. It's not as if she has any sort of valid career to worriy about. She's famous for being self-absorbed and she proved why in the house.
Cat-
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by Beetlejuice:
“Talk about Lauren sucking up to Garry? It's the rest sucking up to James. Edele in particular. That 'towel fight' to get both some camera time was just sooo put on as if to say 'look at me having fun with James. Yea it was hilarious
NOT! yawn.”

Oh good point.

Only it wasn't that clear cut was it? Edele mentioned how James struck a few harsh blows in supposed fun. Someone agreed and then James took it a bit easier.

Seems James loves inflicting pain even for the fun of it. Sadist?
Alrightmate
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by Cat-:
“Yep, that's how I seen it too.

You just had to see how much she and Ricci were in disagreement when Emma interviewed them. Ricci, all secure with his mama Dee and papa James feeling good.

And then Lauren feeling she was excluded from that club because she dared not to fancy Dee's babyboi.

It's laughable. ”

I also noticed in Lauren's interviews in the eviction and on BOTS that she didn't appear to feel anything either way about Dee. She probably wasn't even mentioned. In fact Lauren would like to see Audley win the show.
So although Dee may have contrived this 'Moi Boybies' bullshit, it might appear that Lauren wasn't really feeling it the same way, and as a consequence of being associated with Dee in that respect ended up being collateral damage to a greater or lesser extent.
Cat-
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“I also noticed in Lauren's interviews in the eviction and on BOTS that she didn't appear to feel anything either way about Dee. She probably wasn't even mentioned. In fact Lauren would like to see Audley win the show.
So although Dee may have contrived this 'Moi Boybies' bullshit, it might appear that Lauren wasn't really feeling it the same way, and as a consequence of being associated with Dee in that respect ended up being collateral damage to a greater or lesser extent.”

Oh I think so.

By going against the babyboi in anyway whatsoever, she wasn't just winding Dee up, but James too.

And to make it tenfold worse, she had a talk with Audley who tried to put her wise to be her own person..............same when she had a talk with Gary......be yourself.

But that went against the babyboi favourite that she didn't shag him to death.

And therefore.....was cast out.
SULLA
11-09-2014
It took Lauren a long time to break away from White Dee's evil influence.
treetree
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by lucygracie:
“Lauren will spin which ever way she thinks the money blows, and she got the heads up on how the public felt and bam there she blows.”

that was exactly it
Jennyloo
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by scout2006:
“Lauren is an idiotic bimbo who couldn't give a hoot about Gary Busey but is very worried about her own public profile, although god knows why. It's not as if she has any sort of valid career to worriy about. She's famous for being self-absorbed and she proved why in the house.”

Maybe when drunk, as lots of girls are but otherwise very kind, considerate and far more perceptive than the bully gang.
Kromm
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by scout2006:
“Lauren is an idiotic bimbo who couldn't give a hoot about Gary Busey but is very worried about her own public profile, although god knows why. It's not as if she has any sort of valid career to worriy about. She's famous for being self-absorbed and she proved why in the house.”

I've heard it suggested that she was tipped off leaving the house to do an about face, but I don't think those theories fit with how we saw different behavior from her in the last few days before her eviction.

I think she genuinely got a bad rap, and a bad edit, and also had her head played with by other people in the house. If you go back and listen, she really DID have reservations about Ricci from early on, and it was James and Dee egging her on that caused her change to "maybe I'll give him a chance". Then it was James again who did an about face to suggest she was pushing a showmance agenda to "hurt" Ricci, even though James was one of the ones to push her in that direction in the first place.

As far as her and Gary go, I think perhaps a lot of footage was left in the edit computer in regards to her and Gary. We definitely saw her express a different point of view well before her eviction, even with the edit we got, so I think I believe her version of things and Ricci just looks even worse.

It actually offended me by the point of the eviction interview to hear Ricci get cheered and Lauren booed. It's like people just wanted to eat up the "poor Ricci" story, even though they were being shown footage that matched Lauren's version of events better.
BabelBrook
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“But this was consistent with how she's been acting in the house for the past week or so.
It serves no real useful purpose to her now to say it.”

More accurate to say how she has been acting since up for eviction.
Kromm
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“More accurate to say how she has been acting since up for eviction.”

This is one of the prime examples of how poisonous and insincere this show can be. The only reason people are harping on the notion that she might have changed her behavior because of being nominated is because someone in the house suggested it (to manipulate the public, I believe).

This is the part of the show that makes me ill. It's bad enough that some people DO change their behaviors to get support, but what's worse is the people who play mind-games with the public by hanging out nice juicy suggestions like that which they know Channel 5 will air, and that they know will snowball after that happens. This happened with the idea that Gary is some kind of mastermind manipulator, the idea that Leslie wanted to win badly, and several other similar things. I think they call these "mindworms", and James in particular is the master of this.
Rough Diamond
11-09-2014
I think it was more the fact when Emma said" 14 people in the house have said Gary is hard to live with" rather than," how did you get on with Gary"also Luisa did a UTurn on Gary, they do not want him to win,they never do with Americans when they are in the final hopefully the public will keep him in,if he does not win hopefully Audley does as the rest of them dont deserve it,James becuse he is the biggest shit stirrer in the house and a bully the same applies to Dee, George because he is snidey and not being himself (according to his mate) Adele she is boring and puting on the tears in the run up to the final, looking for the sympathy vote too little too late,

Gary for the win

Team Gary
Sasparella
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by Alib941:
“Sorry but I found Lauren to be totally fake. When she found out from the callers that nobody bought into the showmance and the boys had negative feedback about how they treated Gary she seemed to latch onto Gary knowing he was popular.
I guess we all see things differently.”

Nonsense, she was heard to say a lot in the first week as well that Gary was just Gary and to leave him be when someone had a go at him. Then in the middle when James and Dee had a greater hold over the house she piped down a bit (keeping under the radar in case James started on her with his nasty tongue I guess) then when James made it clear anyway that he didn't like her she just thought sod it, I'll say what I like, and she did.
BabelBrook
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by Kromm:
“This is one of the prime examples of how poisonous and insincere this show can be. The only reason people are harping on the notion that she might have changed her behavior because of being nominated is because someone in the house suggested it (to manipulate the public, I believe).

This is the part of the show that makes me ill. It's bad enough that some people DO change their behaviors to get support, but what's worse is the people who play mind-games with the public by hanging out nice juicy suggestions like that which they know Channel 5 will air, and that they know will snowball after that happens. This happened with the idea that Gary is some kind of mastermind manipulator, the idea that Leslie wanted to win badly, and several other similar things. I think they call these "mindworms", and James in particular is the master of this.”

Sorry but that is tosh. I am quite happy to make up my own mind thanks. You may disagree with my opinion but that is up to you. Twice she was nominated and twice there was a shift. Incidentally Leslie himself said he wanted to win badly so I guess on that score some may be influenced by house soundbites.
Sasparella
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“Sorry but that is tosh. I am quite happy to make up my own mind thanks. You may disagree with my opinion but that is up to you. Twice she was nominated and twice there was a shift. Incidentally Leslie himself said he wanted to win badly so I guess on that score some may be influenced by house soundbites.”

Whatever others say, Lauren looked a lot happier and more relaxed the last few days when she removed herself from the bitchy gang.
Silver River
11-09-2014
I think Lauren is a nice girl who has a kind heart, I'm sad she got booed so badly by the crowd.
BabelBrook
11-09-2014
Originally Posted by Sasparella:
“Nonsense, she was heard to say a lot in the first week as well that Gary was just Gary and to leave him be when someone had a go at him. Then in the middle when James and Dee had a greater hold over the house she piped down a bit (keeping under the radar in case James started on her with his nasty tongue I guess) then when James made it clear anyway that he didn't like her she just thought sod it, I'll say what I like, and she did.”

But Lauren was also equally critical of Gary's behaviour - pushing her out of the way and ignoring her etc was used twice in her nominations. She didn't seem to think Gary was just Gary then.
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