[swordman]

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Originally Posted by DevonBloke

Hey Sword, you seem to be on this thread a lot!
Not feeling jealous or left out by any chance???
Reckon you ought to get your iPhone 6 order in quick.
You know you want one.
Hahahahahahha

Only winding mate...

8gb 5c for me mate all day long, perfect screen size

Genuinely curious though to see which people want.

[calico_pie]

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Originally Posted by swordman

8gb 5c for me mate all day long, perfect screen size

That single sentence sums up your entire inability to get that this is entirely subjective.

[simon69c]

Have to say I'm somewhat surprised by the poll so far. Of course it isn't scientific and still a relatively small sample size, but nevertheless I wasn't expecting such an even split - I was expecting an overall preference towards the standard phone rather than phablet. I guess it will be a bit clearer what peoples' preferences are once they have them in their hand or at least see them in the flesh. Wouldn't surprise me if a few preorders are returned once people find out just how much bigger 5.5" is compared to what they may have had before.

[russellelly]

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Originally Posted by simon69c

Have to say I'm somewhat surprised by the poll so far. Of course it isn't scientific and still a relatively small sample size, but nevertheless I wasn't expecting such an even split - I was expecting an overall preference towards the standard phone rather than phablet. I guess it will be a bit clearer what peoples' preferences are once they have them in their hand or at least see them in the flesh. Wouldn't surprise me if a few preorders are returned once people find out just how much bigger 5.5" is compared to what they may have had before.

I'm looking forward to seeing the two models for real. This site it good for a size comparison with your current phone. Difference with original iPhone (pre-5) size is amazing! http://mobiledevicesize.com/compare/#126,368,473,474;1

[Stuart_h]

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Originally Posted by simon69c

Have to say I'm somewhat surprised by the poll so far. Of course it isn't scientific and still a relatively small sample size, but nevertheless I wasn't expecting such an even split - I was expecting an overall preference towards the standard phone rather than phablet. I guess it will be a bit clearer what peoples' preferences are once they have them in their hand or at least see them in the flesh. Wouldn't surprise me if a few preorders are returned once people find out just how much bigger 5.5" is compared to what they may have had before.

I wonder if its more a "having the best" or having the "top of the range" thing with the initial buyers. The mindset of those waiting first in the queue or ordering on "day 1" might be more prone to the bigger, fuller featured model. A later poll might be more based on head rather than heart.

And before anyone shouts I'm sure the mindset would be the same if Samsung released a galaxy s37 and 37 mini on the same day. You don't queue for hours or sit online at 9:01 to go for "second best".....

Maybe a month down the line you'll see different stats when people have actually seen the thing and the proper, impartial reviews are out that sensibly weigh up the pros and cons of each.

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by Stuart_h

I wonder if its more a "having the best" or having the "top of the range" thing with the initial buyers. The mindset of those waiting first in the queue or ordering on "day 1" might be more prone to the bigger, fuller featured model. A later poll might be more based on head rather than heart.

And before anyone shouts I'm sure the mindset would be the same if Samsung released a galaxy s37 and 37 mini on the same day. You don't queue for hours or sit online at 9:01 to go for "second best".....

Maybe a month down the line you'll see different stats when people have actually seen the thing and the proper, impartial reviews are out that sensibly weigh up the pros and cons of each.

The functional difference between the two is very small though, isn't it? The 6+ has image stabilisation! but is there anything else?

Your samsung example is better because you normally have to compromise on CPU, GPU.

[IslandNiles]

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Originally Posted by Stuart_h

I wonder if its more a "having the best" or having the "top of the range" thing with the initial buyers. The mindset of those waiting first in the queue or ordering on "day 1" might be more prone to the bigger, fuller featured model. A later poll might be more based on head rather than heart.

And before anyone shouts I'm sure the mindset would be the same if Samsung released a galaxy s37 and 37 mini on the same day. You don't queue for hours or sit online at 9:01 to go for "second best".....

Maybe a month down the line you'll see different stats when people have actually seen the thing and the proper, impartial reviews are out that sensibly weigh up the pros and cons of each.

I think perhaps there'll be an element of that, but ultimately I would expect size will be the deciding factor for most people. I was considering the Plus, but I thought in the end that it's just too big and heavy for my purposes.

[heskethbang]

For me, I just wanted something a bit different, but love the ecosystem of iPhones. - Also, I wanted improved battery life - so it had to be the 6+.

[Stuart_h]

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Originally Posted by kidspud

The functional difference between the two is very small though, isn't it? The 6+ has image stabilisation! but is there anything else?

Your samsung example is better because you normally have to compromise on CPU, GPU.

I'm not fully up to speed on specs but aren't the key differences:

Image stabilisation
Significantly different PPI (the 6 being lower than the 4s)
Different battery

The processor doesn't appear to be different. Probably need to wait for a tear-down of both to see all the difference (unless one has been done already?)

But. Like it or not they are very different beasts. Whilst the 6+ has better specs over the 6 I don't think there is anything that the 6 "gains" over the 6+ is there ?

[technology_love]

How long before I'm able to walk in to an Apple store, look at/play with the phone(s) and then purchase one? I'm not one of those people who queue for miles 10 days before.

If Friday is release day, a couple of weeks before I can go in without waiting 10 hours?

Thanks
TL

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by Stuart_h

I'm not fully up to speed on specs but aren't the key differences:

Image stabilisation
Significantly different PPI (the 6 being lower than the 4s)
Different battery

The processor doesn't appear to be different. Probably need to wait for a tear-down of both to see all the difference (unless one has been done already?)

But. Like it or not they are very different beasts. Whilst the 6+ has better specs over the 6 I don't think there is anything that the 6 "gains" over the 6+ is there ?

The 6 'gains' reduced size without compromising the performance which will be a major decider for a lot of people. I didn't think the 6 had a PPI lower than the 4s, and I assume battery life is the measure, not battery size.

However, even I'm surprised by the survey on here, it will be interesting to see how sales go.

[swordman]

4s 330 ppi
6 326 ppi

[Stuart_h]

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Originally Posted by kidspud

The 6 'gains' reduced size without compromising the performance which will be a major decider for a lot of people. I didn't think the 6 had a PPI lower than the 4s, and I assume battery life is the measure, not battery size.

However, even I'm surprised by the survey on here, it will be interesting to see how sales go.

So you gain a smaller, lower res screen

I'm surprised they didn't keep the specs closer tbh with the only difference being screen size. This looks like its going to create a "them and us" situation even within the apple community ....

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by Stuart_h

So you gain a smaller, lower res screen

I'm surprised they didn't keep the specs closer tbh with the only difference being screen size. This looks like its going to create a "them and us" situation even within the apple community ....

I think you are the only one (I expect you will be joined by a couple of others) that think that.

In the discussions on this forum and any others I've looked, I don't get that impression.

[Stuart_h]

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Originally Posted by kidspud

I think you are the only one (I expect you will be joined by a couple of others) that think that.

In the discussions on this forum and any others I've looked, I don't get that impression.

No I'm not trying to send this down the route of other threads. To me, as an apple outsider, it looks like a 5s/5c type scenario though. If they had just made the difference the size I could have understood the logic better. With the current setup its not simply a case of what size screen you want - there are other tradeoffs to make. For info I dislike the Samsung 'mini' approach too that gives a smaller version that also differs technically from its bigger brother.

[simon69c]

I would be of the opinion that the hardware differences between the two *are* minimal (aside the obvious screen and physical size). In day to day use I doubt I would notice the difference between the different PPI of the screens, and OIS isn't going to suddenly make a massive difference to the vast majority of photos I take with my phone. In fact the main aspect of the plus that had me considering going for that rather than the 6 was the greater battery life, but as I rarely have issues with the 5S and the standard 6 is as good or better than the 5S anyway it wasn't really a good enough reason to switch to the plus.

A few months back I bought a Moto G just to dabble with Android after we got my mum one and I then decided to try android "properly" and got an Xperia Z2 to try instead of my 5S. After a couple of months I had decided I liked the idea of a slightly larger screen, but that 5.2" was too big for me, and 5.5" certainly would. That along with some other software problems I was having with the Z2 ended up with me selling it on and going back to my 5S until the new iPhone came along (which was already strongly looking like being 4.7" & 5.5").

The 6 and 6 plus are certainly far more closely related than the Galaxy "full fat" and mini variants are, though I believe the S5 mini is somewhat closer than previous mini versions. I think Apple have tried to avoid "forcing" people to go for the larger (more expensive) phone in order to get the top of the line by not making too many hardware differences between the two. Sure there are still some differences, but you still get 95% of the improvements over the 5S by going for the 6 rather than the 6 plus. I think they have got the balance right and I for one will prefer the more compact form factor than having OIS, a marginally sharper screen and extra battery life.

[calico_pie]

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Originally Posted by simon69c

Have to say I'm somewhat surprised by the poll so far. Of course it isn't scientific and still a relatively small sample size, but nevertheless I wasn't expecting such an even split - I was expecting an overall preference towards the standard phone rather than phablet. I guess it will be a bit clearer what peoples' preferences are once they have them in their hand or at least see them in the flesh. Wouldn't surprise me if a few preorders are returned once people find out just how much bigger 5.5" is compared to what they may have had before.

I guess as this is the first year they've done the large phones the figures in a poll like that might be skewed due to pent up demand for the larger size.

Whereas a few years down the line the split might show more preference to the smaller one.

It might also be interesting to know what proportion of people are existing iPhone owners.

[calico_pie]

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Originally Posted by Stuart_h

So you gain a smaller, lower res screen

I'm surprised they didn't keep the specs closer tbh with the only difference being screen size. This looks like its going to create a "them and us" situation even within the apple community ....

Yeah, we iPhone users are indeed part of a community, who are always getting together and willy waving. I can tell you right now that Bob is going to be pissed with Martha if she has a bigger phone than he does.

[Stuart_h]

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

Yeah, we iPhone users are indeed part of a community, who are always getting together and willy waving. I can tell you right now that Bob is going to be pissed with Martha if she has a bigger phone than he does.

Haha. You know and I do that a degree of willy waving goes on on both "sides of the fence"

If the apple community had no contingent of willy wavers then what are the people doing queuing outside the apple store ?

That's a record for me using the verb willy waving twice (now three times) in a single post

[Stig]

Sorry to interrupt this argument with an actual comment about the iPhone 6:

I've just taken delivery of a case for an iPhone 6 Plus. It doesn't feel too large at all! It fits in my pocket no problem, and the fact it's very thin and light for a phone of its size means it shouldn't feel too bulky either.

[jonmorris]

My LG G3 (or indeed my Z2) fits a pocket just fine. Reduce the bezel and you can get a large screen without the whole phone being massive.

[Stuart_h]

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Originally Posted by Stig

Sorry to interrupt this argument with an actual comment about the iPhone 6:

I've just taken delivery of a case for an iPhone 6 Plus. It doesn't feel too large at all! It fits in my pocket no problem, and the fact it's very thin and light for a phone of its size means it shouldn't feel too bulky either.

Nothing worse than getting the case first .....

[heskethbang]

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Originally Posted by Stig

Sorry to interrupt this argument with an actual comment about the iPhone 6:

I've just taken delivery of a case for an iPhone 6 Plus. It doesn't feel too large at all! It fits in my pocket no problem, and the fact it's very thin and light for a phone of its size means it shouldn't feel too bulky either.

Which one did you get? I've just received the Spigen Slim Armour for my 6+, and although it is substantially larger than my iPhone5, it's perfectly manageable

[Valentine]

I went in and pre-ordered the 6 yesterday, picking it up Friday afternoon. After weighing up the pros and cons, I decided based on size alone as I don't like the larger phones.