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How can Sienna and Dodger not have recognised each other? |
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How can Sienna and Dodger not have recognised each other?
People don't change much in 15 years from 14...how come they didn't realise who each other were?
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Maybe one of them was chubby the other was spotty
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A school disco themed as a masquerade ball?
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Dodger's not exactly the brightest spark in the village, it's not inconceivable that he put 2 and 2 together and got incest. Then again you'd think Sienna would have remembered his permanent confused expression.
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People don't change much in 15 years from 14...how come they didn't realise who each other were?
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They pulled the sl out their arse, and didn't give a shit about the inconsistencies and retconning.
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It's not completely implausible to me, they were 12/13 when they met briefly (though long enough to sleep together); and when I think back to my 'holiday romances' at that age I couldn't tell you what they looked like then, and probably wouldn't even recognise them now or vice versa (I'm 26).
Only this year I met a friend of my uncle at a funeral who I'd spent a fair bit of time around from about 7-13 years old and he didn't recognise me at all (so even though I don't see myself as that changed others do). |
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It's not completely implausible to me, they were 12/13 when they met briefly (though long enough to sleep together); and when I think back to my 'holiday romances' at that age I couldn't tell you what they looked like then, and probably wouldn't even recognise them now or vice versa (I'm 26).
Both Sienna and Dodger said how beautiful the other one was at the time, so they must have some recollection. I find it particularly implausible that Sienna wouldn't remember what the father of her baby looked like. |
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They slept together though! And it's not as if they haven't been close for the past two years. Plenty of time for the memories to come flooding back.
Both Sienna and Dodger said how beautiful the other one was at the time, so they must have some recollection. I find it particularly implausible that Sienna wouldn't remember what the father of her baby looked like. I also think that the trauma Sienna experienced at the hands of Patrick after her first sexual experience might impact her memory...Dodger doesn't have that excuse and it was apparently his first time too. |
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Surly there has been photos from when they were teenagers ?
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I also think that the trauma Sienna experienced at the hands of Patrick after her first sexual experience might impact her memory...Dodger doesn't have that excuse and it was apparently his first time too.
Even if she had repressed the pregnancy, surely the dad would have come back to her then? |
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They were young though, even now I don't recall details of significant events in my life -emotions and things stay with me but I don't recollect it perfectly. That's true for many people.
I also think that the trauma Sienna experienced at the hands of Patrick after her first sexual experience might impact her memory...Dodger doesn't have that excuse and it was apparently his first time too. So Sienna has absolutely little recognition of how it really happened, she's been fed a lie everytime she's remembered something. The girl has been manipulated into becoming crazy. Dodger never saw the girl again and went on about his life. He simply forgot and he's the type of guy who's had 100's of girls, so it's plausible he forgot her and even when he did meet Sienna again she 12 years older - she didn't look like a young teenager. I totally agree with you btw I can't even remember the faces of some of the people I spent all year with at school and if I saw them now I would probably walk right past them. But that's unlike Dodger and Sienna, who only met for a couple of days. |
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I think Hollyoaks deserves an award for this storyline. The award could be called the most unrealistic storyline ever to be on soap! Lol
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You're right. Patrick has been manipulating this situation since it happened, keeping the lie going on and ever since they first showed up in Hollyoaks he was always manipulating Sienna and telling her how things 'really were' and he did the same to Maxine (and to a lesser seen extent he did it to Anna).
I don't think Patrick's pleased about the incest; no wonder he tried to make her forget about the child. Obviously the loss of the child was traumatic but would knowing you've slept with your twin brother and given birth to his kid be preferable? Oh, he told Anna quite a lot that she was wrong but we had more reason to believe him in that she was mentally ill. |
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She's knowingly lied about the child's father so I don't buy her forgetting the event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBizoo5ehFs |
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The OP is right ppl don't change that much from their teens and at the age of 13/14 you would be able to remember someone you'd slept with! We start forming memories from the age of about 4/5, sometimes younger. I cant believe some are trying to defend this story by saying they only met briefly and that not all teens are able to remember things sorry but they slept together and unless you have a mental health issue you do have a good memory by the time you're 13/14.
Also in the original back story Patrick thought dodger was dead. The story is offensive and a retcon. |
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The OP is right ppl don't change that much from their teens and at the age of 13/14 you would be able to remember someone you'd slept with! We start forming memories from the age of about 4/5, sometimes younger. I cant believe some are trying to defend this story by saying they only met briefly and that not all teens are able to remember things sorry but they slept together and unless you have a mental health issue you do have a good memory by the time you're 13/14.
Good memory is also dependent on each individual, no matter what age you are some people have poor memory recall. Also, plenty don't recall details attached to significant events in their life i.e. my brother in law couldn't tell you for the life of him what he had for breakfast the day his first child was born (or what he wore that day, or even the name of the midwife who helped deliver my nephew let alone what she looked like). |
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Tbf some people forget who they have slept with 14 days ago never mind 14 years ago.
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There is absolutely no way that Sienna - in all the times she's been on that boat in the last 2 years - hasn't seen a picture of Dodger as a teenager (not that she'd be bothered if it was him).
Also, I know it doesn't always happen but isn't mixing the same DNA meant to cause problems with the child so especially twin DNA. Maybe Patricks lying just to get in her head. |
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Also, I know it doesn't always happen but isn't mixing the same DNA meant to cause problems with the child so especially twin DNA. Maybe Patricks lying just to get in her head.
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Although in that episode she even said that she slept with a boy she didn't know and didn't see again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBizoo5ehFs |
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Attitudes to sex have changed in the past few decades, people engage in casual sex much more frequently, having one night stands with folk they've only know for a few hours (if that!). Some don't remember who they slept with a year later let alone longer.
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This SL is all over the place. It's so obvious they decided to make Dodger Nico's dad at the very last minute so they had to come up with some silly backstory of when Sienna and Dodger slept together X amount of years ago and now they don't recognise each other.
It's a load of nonsense. |
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Other people have used this excuse but there's no way this extends to a thirteen year old who was supposedly infatuated, wasn't promiscuous, wasn't under the influence of alcohol and gave birth to this person's child. There's no implication that Sienna went out with loads of boys after that and she said that her best friend was her father, so it's not like she has a lot of faces to remember.
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I can see that the experience would be more memorable than the face but really after two years of knowing each other quite well nothinghas come back to them until Sienna starts her random obsession?
Also, how did Patrick know that they'd done the deed? Wasn't that why he got them fired? How does he know that Sienna didn't sleep with another guy at that time? |
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